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Next MacBook and MacBook Pro Updates in June?

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coryetzkorn said:
I'm with the whiners on this one. I want a complete redesign. Or, at least, a new keyboard. Hopefully at WWDC?

I made a quick mockup of the MBP I hope to purchase in June (or something very similar). I think the MBA's tapered design would work very well if they made it a little thicker. I didn't do a top view, but it would have the MBA's black keyboard (or maybe a fancier silver color, but MacBook style). I think this would be one beautiful computer and it definitely has the "wow" factor like the iMacs do.

I am of the opinion that the MacBook Air is, in Apple's mind, much like the Apple TV. Both are prototypes of what's to come. The markets are small enough for each product that they are great for testing to see what works and what doesn't. Revision 2 of MBA = New MBP. In this case, the low end MBP would be the MBA, without the optical drive and extra thickness.

Any thoughts?

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is really cool! nice photoshopping! I would definitely have to buy that computer!
 
CommodityFetish said:
Buy one and "drive it into the ground," ie: until it really starts to get slow on you, and you really NEED an upgrade...
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It's not a laptop, but I've been trying to drive my Power Mac G5 Dual 2GHz into the ground and it just won't die. I bought this bad boy back in '03. Talk about bang for the buck!
 
digitalbiker said:
Quit propagating this ridiculous assumption.

First Apple doesn't offer true high-def downloads. Yeah I know that they are 720p but they are so highly compressed that they are not really a true high-def bitrate. They are really only slightly better than DVD quality.

Compare Apple TV 720p to blu-ray 1080p on 50 inch HD TV and the difference is staggering. Blu-ray makes Apple TV look like broadcast 480i.

Also the majority of the country (USA) does not have adequate broadband to support true HD downloads. Blu-ray is a much better delivery method, rather than tying up internet bandwidth for days downloading a few movies.

Then you have the people who like to collect their favorite movies for their own video collection. It won't take too many 35 GB HD movies before you fill up that Apple TV HDD.

Also Apple is big into pro level apps like Final Cut Pro for high-def authoring. Are you telling me that they aren't going to support blu-ray authoring now that HD-DVD is dead.

Look Blu-ray won the high-def wars. Please lets all move on behind this standard so that prices can finally drop and video title libraries increase.
Please don't go trying to cloud the issue with a bogus, "Apple doesn't support blu-ray because they are pushing a download model" argument.
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A ridiculous assumption huh?! Have you looked at Apple's stance on HiDef content? Probably not. Don't you find it odd that a company such as Apple who is usually ahead of the competition as far as innovation hasn't yet included Blu-Ray drives as even an option? Add that to the fact that Apple sits on Blu-Ray Disk Association board of directors. Maybe you didn't know that. Or maybe you overlooked that. Either way it doesn't make sense. Now I never said that Apple's HiDef content quality rivals Blu-Ray. Its far from it. But will it get better? Yes. Even take a look at NetFlix trying to bring content to consumers over the internet. No one wants to wait these days. People want to watch a movie as soon as they think about it. Cloud-based music services already dominate a large portion of all music sales, so why is it such a far-fetched idea to believe that movie content will not move in this direction? It was my pleasure schooling you.

For those wondering where this topic came from, I had simply commented on a post to someone asking why there is yet a Blu-Ray drive on these new revisions.
 
wish i could wait

I really wish I could wait until June, but I can't. I'm going away to college in August, and being a Windoze user, I felt I needed more than one month to totally grasp a new operating system. I have a MBP with Penryn (2.6 ghz) ordered, and to arrive in a few days. I'm making the switch and never going back!:)
 
GLox said:
I really wish I could wait until June, but I can't. I'm going away to college in August, and being a Windoze user, I felt I needed more than one month to totally grasp a new operating system. I have a MBP with Penryn (2.6 ghz) ordered, and to arrive in a few days. I'm making the switch and never going back!:)
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It's a good choice considering the June date is by no means solid. If you buy it now it'll be right for you and the release of an updated model months in the future will make no difference. You won't all of a sudden need a new notebook just because its been released.
 
qubic17 said:
But is it worth getting the extra 2GB of ram through apple because of the cost. I have heard of other ways to get it through other companies. What do u guys recommend?
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Apple memory is way too expensive, get it from Crucial, also it has life time warranty unlike Apples. Crucial is a heck of a lot cheaper and FANTASTIC QUALITY!!!!!!!!!
 
GLox said:
I really wish I could wait until June, but I can't. I'm going away to college in August, and being a Windoze user, I felt I needed more than one month to totally grasp a new operating system. I have a MBP with Penryn (2.6 ghz) ordered, and to arrive in a few days. I'm making the switch and never going back!:)
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Get your computer when you need it. Your choice is sound.

Welcome to the community of Mac Users.
 
coryetzkorn said:
I'm with the whiners on this one. I want a complete redesign. Or, at least, a new keyboard. Hopefully at WWDC?

I made a quick mockup of the MBP I hope to purchase in June (or something very similar). I think the MBA's tapered design would work very well if they made it a little thicker. I didn't do a top view, but it would have the MBA's black keyboard (or maybe a fancier silver color, but MacBook style). I think this would be one beautiful computer and it definitely has the "wow" factor like the iMacs do.

I am of the opinion that the MacBook Air is, in Apple's mind, much like the Apple TV. Both are prototypes of what's to come. The markets are small enough for each product that they are great for testing to see what works and what doesn't. Revision 2 of MBA = New MBP. In this case, the low end MBP would be the MBA, without the optical drive and extra thickness.

Any thoughts?

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Looks great, love the case colors, but two minor issues:
1) The tapering in the front is too pronounced and looks to move back some, this could cause the system to wobble as you type.
2) Looks like you forgot the camera.
 
gaaahhh...need some advice

beyond the platitude of "buy it now if you need it now" please...
i'm finishing grad school in about 2 months and i have a machine that is going to get me through (bought a Dell to run architecture apps before intel/bootcamp).

i also have a 12" Powerbook that is about 5 years old.

so, i don't *need* the MBP "right now." the reason that i'm struggling with this is because the lack of the magnetic latch and the "old" keyboard seems like an obvious sign that apple sees this as a "minor" update. my 12" Powerbook has had a broken latch for about 2 years and i don't want to buy another machine that will have the same problem because i expect my next Mac to get me through 5 years like the 12" Powerbook.

if this new MBP had the new keyboard and the new latch i wouldn't have thought twice about it but it just seems like an obvious indicator that apple just threw this out as a stopgap. i mean the ***** MacBook has the new latch!

it seems to me that for those that don't *need* the MBP right now, should wait for the the "real" update that will include the montevina chipset [with the DDR3 bump and other improvements], the new style keyboard, the new latch, and possibly a case redesign and maybe a blu-ray drive. thoughts?
 
Woah!

Just when I was about to order... I read this! June?!!! that's just around the corner:(

My Aluminum powerbook g4, which is only good for surfing the web just won't die on me tho the display often craps out (connection/hinge is worn off prolly).

I seriously think that my next macbook pro is a real desktop replacement and can be a serious workhorse but damn, I think I have to wait....again!!!!!:(

hahaha...

PS. I think Apple could sell more macbook pros if they just change the color of the paint a bit... like tint it to be darker, or even metallic aluminum black? gimmicks would work and would amplify the impact of a mere speedbump. The design is lovely but shelling out another 2500 usd for an exact same look since 3-4 years ago is a bit lame.
 
coryetzkorn said:
I'm with the whiners on this one. I want a complete redesign. Or, at least, a new keyboard. Hopefully at WWDC?

I made a quick mockup of the MBP I hope to purchase in June (or something very similar). I think the MBA's tapered design would work very well if they made it a little thicker. I didn't do a top view, but it would have the MBA's black keyboard (or maybe a fancier silver color, but MacBook style). I think this would be one beautiful computer and it definitely has the "wow" factor like the iMacs do.

I am of the opinion that the MacBook Air is, in Apple's mind, much like the Apple TV. Both are prototypes of what's to come. The markets are small enough for each product that they are great for testing to see what works and what doesn't. Revision 2 of MBA = New MBP. In this case, the low end MBP would be the MBA, without the optical drive and extra thickness.

Any thoughts?

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Get that glossy-screen garbage off my MacBook Pro and while we're at it, that black corona. Disgusting.

I for one won't be getting any new MacBook Pros if there is no matte screen option.

Also, drop the price with the superdrive and then sell blu-ray as an option so that us DVD watchers don't have to pay for technology we won't use (well unless they stop making DVDs and start only making blu-ray).
 
viccles said:
Gee, these updates sure are coming through fast. My wallet can't keep up :(
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haha i wish i could just buy everything when it comes out. but alas I have common sense, so I wait to buy things when they fit what i want and when I have the cash. Reason I didnt buy a iPhone yet is because it's not 3G- i'll pay the top dollar when it gets the higher bandwith at least built into the phone- wether or not I pay the service fees will depend on AT&T.
 
I don't know if I'm the only one to think this or not, but hasn't apple always released a "new" laptop or computer (pb, mb, mbp, mba, mini, cube, etc.), instead of just updating the design? The all-in-ones seem to be the only computers that get visual updates (e/iMac).

I am, however, very glad that the Mac Pro casing hasn't changed for some time... I love the style sooooo much.
 
jmerk said:
beyond the platitude of "buy it now if you need it now" please...
i'm finishing grad school in about 2 months and i have a machine that is going to get me through (bought a Dell to run architecture apps before intel/bootcamp).

i also have a 12" Powerbook that is about 5 years old.

so, i don't *need* the MBP "right now." the reason that i'm struggling with this is because the lack of the magnetic latch and the "old" keyboard seems like an obvious sign that apple sees this as a "minor" update. my 12" Powerbook has had a broken latch for about 2 years and i don't want to buy another machine that will have the same problem because i expect my next Mac to get me through 5 years like the 12" Powerbook.

if this new MBP had the new keyboard and the new latch i wouldn't have thought twice about it but it just seems like an obvious indicator that apple just threw this out as a stopgap. i mean the ***** MacBook has the new latch!

it seems to me that for those that don't *need* the MBP right now, should wait for the the "real" update that will include the montevina chipset [with the DDR3 bump and other improvements], the new style keyboard, the new latch, and possibly a case redesign and maybe a blu-ray drive. thoughts?
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Absolutely. If you don't feel the stress of possible hardware failure looming over you and don't need more speed or RAM or whatever the current MBPs might offer over your current machine, then wait. It helps to determine a lower threshold while waiting: "if the update doesn't have X, then I'm not buying it." In my case with this most recent update, my lower threshold was the inclusion of Multitouch. I didn't get some of the other things on my wish list, but that one came through--and I am computing on borrowed time with a 6-year-old PB--so I ordered a current MBP.
 
i dont think therell be case designs

for everyone thinking about case redesigns: http://www.macworld.com/article/132261/2008/02/casemacs.html

personally, i agree with the article.

but seriously, im getting a blackbook sometime this summer, and is it worth it to get it later in the summer than earlier because of these new processors? its not particularly urgent that i get one early, but preferable.
 
asdavis10 said:
A ridiculous assumption huh?! Have you looked at Apple's stance on HiDef content? Probably not. Don't you find it odd that a company such as Apple who is usually ahead of the competition as far as innovation hasn't yet included Blu-Ray drives as even an option? Add that to the fact that Apple sits on Blu-Ray Disk Association board of directors. Maybe you didn't know that. Or maybe you overlooked that. Either way it doesn't make sense. Now I never said that Apple's HiDef content quality rivals Blu-Ray. Its far from it. But will it get better? Yes. Even take a look at NetFlix trying to bring content to consumers over the internet. No one wants to wait these days. People want to watch a movie as soon as they think about it. Cloud-based music services already dominate a large portion of all music sales, so why is it such a far-fetched idea to believe that movie content will not move in this direction? It was my pleasure schooling you.

For those wondering where this topic came from, I had simply commented on a post to someone asking why there is yet a Blu-Ray drive on these new revisions.
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Sorry to disappoint you but you didn't tell me a thing I didn't already know!

First Apple is always slow adapting new hardware. (See current update to mb & mbp with processors that have been in other lines for at least two months)

Second, Blu-ray has just won the war with hd-dvd. So Apple was sitting waiting to see what was the best direction to go for consumers.

third, Apple has never said their movie service was to replace blu-ray movie collection. On the contrary it is a complementary service.

fourth, It's nice to live in a dreamland about high-def movie download services but the reality is that bandwidth infrastructure in the US jjust isn't there. Most of the US is lucky if they have DSL let alone enough bandwidth to deliver true HD.

fifth, Apple 720p service is highly compressed and as a result the final bitrates are really no better than standard DVD. True 1080p blu-ray capable HD is a different animal. It isn't yet possible to deliver this quality over the internet to a large population. It maybe some day but that day is at least 5 -10 years in the future. By that time Blu-ray will be strongly entrenched in the household.

sixth, I can buy a blu-ray movie at a local store pop it in a player and be watching 1080p long before you can order a highly compressed 720p download. So who is really waiting longer than who.

seventh, Apple will have blu-ray record/play devices in mac pros and possibly mbp before the year-end. So you might as well drop the "Apple won't support blu-ray because they advocate hd downloads" argument before you get embarrassed.
 
qubic17 said:
But is it worth getting the extra 2GB of ram through apple because of the cost. I have heard of other ways to get it through other companies. What do u guys recommend?
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Hmmm, if only there were threads devoted to this very topic littered across multiple forums...:rolleyes:
 
Future updates

IMO, im not saying i can predict the future, neither am i saying im the all seeing and all mighty Steve Jobs (BTW it was his B-Day last week, hence the upgrades) all im saying is that apple always has a certain delay when it comes to latest tech. look at Penryn, look at the Sr update, look at the 2.6 bump.

Secondly who ever is saying they will update in june is a real noob, the chipset is coming out/being released in june (correct me if im wrong) hence it will take time to ship, time to assemble, time to advert.

Case Redisign: As some one has mentioned a smaller motherboard does not necesseraly mean a new design, even if it would i can put my hand on fire it will take more then half a year to redesign the MBP.

Conclusion, grab it, apple isn't stupid if they did upgrade and if they didnt skip out on it there has to be a reason, the wait will be long, remember all those posts about being waiting since November, well do you want to be part of the next gen of waiters?

Im currently trying to sell my 6 month old MBP for 2000 canadian and im having a hard time because of everyone else whos trying to sell them ><
 
Look Blu-ray won the high-def wars. Please lets all move on behind this standard so that prices can finally drop and video title libraries increase.
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Don't kid yourself. Blu-Ray will go the way of the dodo bird in short order. Blu-Ray DVD's are a stop-gap; not a long-term solution. Digital downloads is where *everything* is headed despite what your local Best Guy sales dude may be telling you.
Also the majority of the country (USA) does not have adequate broadband to support true HD downloads. Blu-ray is a much better delivery method, rather than tying up internet bandwidth for days downloading a few movies.
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.....and those same people who don't have adequate bandwidth more than likely don't have Blu-Ray DVD players nor will they in the near future. This is a rather moot point.
 
beefington said:
for everyone thinking about case redesigns: http://www.macworld.com/article/132261/2008/02/casemacs.html

personally, i agree with the article.

but seriously, im getting a blackbook sometime this summer, and is it worth it to get it later in the summer than earlier because of these new processors? its not particularly urgent that i get one early, but preferable.
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Great link. I enjoyed the article and the comments on it. I think the last few MBP updates have proven that Apple has no intention of changing the enclosure merely for the sake of change. After all, change does tend to be anathema in the corporate world. They have a design that has been successful for some five years, and that design remains distinct among competitors to this day--there's a lot to be said for that kind of longevity.

Apple's biggest aesthetic leaps have always accompanied some fundamental shifts in function and/or components.
 
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