Next year, no oleophobic screens anymore?

[TheSpaz]

Yes that´s what I believe too, but still you cannot take it off like a screen protector, which makes it part of the screen and if it gets scratches, game over.

I agree with you 100%. If it rubs off in one spot (like where you always slide to unlock) what do you do then? Just have a permanent spot on your screen? That same area is not affected on the iPhone 3G (no coating). So I think the oleophobic layer has the potential to be a bigger problem in the future when people have had their iPhone 3GS for 12 months.

I too heard that the coating is scratching easier. This means people can't treat this new iPhone the same way they treated their iPhone 3G. They can't press as hard on the screen now and they have to worry about anything hard touching the glass?

I totally see where you are coming from man... I really do. I think Apple should take the coating off of the next model. Sure it feels nice, but once it wears or scratches, you'll be wishing the coating was never there in the first place.

 

[Unspoken Demise]

I agree with you 100%. If it rubs off in one spot (like where you always slide to unlock) what do you do then? Just have a permanent spot on your screen? That same area is not affected on the iPhone 3G (no coating). So I think the oleophobic layer has the potential to be a bigger problem in the future when people have had their iPhone 3GS for 12 months.

I too heard that the coating is scratching easier. This means people can't treat this new iPhone the same way they treated their iPhone 3G. They can't press as hard on the screen now and they have to worry about anything hard touching the glass?

I totally see where you are coming from man... I really do. I think Apple should take the coating off of the next model. Sure it feels nice, but once it wears or scratches, you'll be wishing the coating was never there in the first place.

We should just all go back to the 3g and 2.2.1.
Its the only logical thing to do.
Come on everyone! Let's jump on the Spazwagon!

 

[gloss]

Sure it feels nice, but once it wears or scratches, you'll be wishing the coating was never there in the first place.

Seriously, someone with some spare coin should just take a buffer to it and let us know how well the coating comes off. It personally doesn't bother me - any scratches I get are surface level and will disappear eventually, and thus far it's spotless.

 

[Halamolo]

We should just all go back to the 3g and 2.2.1.
Its the only logical thing to do.
Come on everyone! Let's jump on the Spazwagon!

Sometimes newer isn´t better.

 

[TheSpaz]

We should just all go back to the 3g and 2.2.1.
Its the only logical thing to do.
Come on everyone! Let's jump on the Spazwagon!

Sounds good to me!

Seriously, someone with some spare coin should just take a buffer to it and let us know how well the coating comes off. It personally doesn't bother me - any scratches I get are surface level and will disappear eventually, and thus far it's spotless.

I wonder if Radtech's Ice Creme would take of the coating... hmm..

Can you buy iPhone 3GS parts on ebay yet? Just buy an oleophobic glass replacement on ebay for a few bucks and see if you can get it to rub off with something.

 

[vinay427]

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Wouldn't the sample size on a message board be bigger than that of an article? The article has 1 author, but a message board would have 20, 30, 40+.

I would think a message board would be better at proving the point.

http://www.iphonealley.com/news/warning-new-oleophobic-screen-coating-is-highly-scratchable
http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-19512_7-10280454-233.html
http://www.ilounge.com/index.php/ne...s-oleophobic-coating-wearing-off-prematurely/
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=2057458&tstart=0
http://www.geek.com/articles/apple/...en-coating-causing-problems-for-some-2009076/
http://www.phonearena.com/htmls/iPhone-3GS-oleophobic-coating-wearing-thin-article-a_5859.html
http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/04/apple-blames-hot-iphones-on-the-weather-others-find-oleophobic/
http://iphoneindia.gyanin.com/2009/07/06/oleophobic-coating-on-few-iphone-3gss-wearing-off/
http://www.iphonematters.com/article/iphone_oleophobic_screens_wearing_off_992/

I tried to avoid the forum posts as much as possible as per your request. I do like how tried to make it as hard as possible to find examples by putting on so many requirements. Sneak way of trying to prove your point.

And you think this represents a large percentage of the 1,000,000+ 3GS iPhone's sold?

But all those were probably only heavy users because it rubbed off after only two weeks. Who knows who else's will rub off eventually?

 

[beamer8912]

This is RIDICULOUS now

http://www.iphonealley.com/news/warn...ly-scratchable
Did you read this? It just references this message board LOL

http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-19512_7-10280454-233.html
Again - did you read this? it says "a user is complaining "

http://www.ilounge.com/index.php/new...f-prematurely/
This is a link to the same story - again - ONE user is complaining

http://discussions.apple.com/thread....57458&tstart=0
LOL - another message board with inconclusive commentary

http://www.geek.com/articles/apple/i...-some-2009076/
Again - same story about the ONE iphone as in cnet and ilounge

http://www.phonearena.com/htmls/iPho...le-a_5859.html
Same story

http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/04/a...nd-oleophobic/
Same Story

http://iphoneindia.gyanin.com/2009/0...s-wearing-off/
Same Story

http://www.iphonematters.com/article...aring_off_992/
Same Story-
So one message board thread which doesn't even have conclusive evidence and links to several blogs/websites with THE SAME STORY OF ONE PERSON + an article that references MR.

Sorry. MASSIVE FAIL to prove your point

I'll keep going then:

1-https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/717675/
2 and 3 (see last post)-http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=2057458&start=15&tstart=0
4-http://twitter.com/jamrock/status/2549700868
5, 6, 7 and 8 (read the comments) - http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-19512_7-10280454-233.html
9, 10 and 11 (read the comments AGAIN) http://www.iphonealley.com/news/warning-new-oleophobic-screen-coating-is-highly-scratchable
12 and 13 - http://forum.theiphoneblog.com/ipho...screen-scratched-oleophobic-coat-blame-4.html
14 and 15 - http://forums.mactalk.com.au/31/67964-oleophobic-coating-effect-screen-shields.html
16-19 in the comments - http://www.ilounge.com/index.php/ne...s-oleophobic-coating-wearing-off-prematurely/
20 - http://iphone3ghacked.com/2009/06/25/new-oleophobic-screen-coating-is-highly-scratchable/

I'm done researching the internet and reading about people complaining. I'll let google do the rest.


http://www.google.com/search?q=ipho...s=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a

Results 1 - 10 of about 3,630 for iphone oleophobic scratch

 

[gloss]

I'll keep going then:

1-https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/717675/
2 and 3 (see last post)-http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=2057458&start=15&tstart=0
4-http://twitter.com/jamrock/status/2549700868
5, 6, 7 and 8 (read the comments) - http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-19512_7-10280454-233.html
9, 10 and 11 (read the comments AGAIN) http://www.iphonealley.com/news/warning-new-oleophobic-screen-coating-is-highly-scratchable
12 and 13 - http://forum.theiphoneblog.com/ipho...screen-scratched-oleophobic-coat-blame-4.html
14 and 15 - http://forums.mactalk.com.au/31/67964-oleophobic-coating-effect-screen-shields.html
16-19 in the comments - http://www.ilounge.com/index.php/ne...s-oleophobic-coating-wearing-off-prematurely/
20 - http://iphone3ghacked.com/2009/06/25/new-oleophobic-screen-coating-is-highly-scratchable/

I'm done researching the internet and reading about people complaining. I'll let google do the rest.


http://www.google.com/search?q=ipho...s=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&...phone+nuclear+battery+explosion&aq=f&oq=&aqi=

Results 1 - 10 of about 4,970 for iphone nuclear battery explosion. (0.43 seconds)

 

[beamer8912]

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&...phone+nuclear+battery+explosion&aq=f&oq=&aqi=

2nd result:

http://www.engadget.com/2006/08/02/powerbook-g4-plays-the-flame-game-too/

not even close

my 2nd result:

http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-19512_7-10280454-233.html

you fail at googling

 

[gloss]

2nd result:



not even close

my 2nd result:

http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-19512_7-10280454-233.html

you fail at googling

Just pointing out that the number of hits you receive on a Google search is, at best, a weak indicator of how common something may be.

I'll believe in an epidemic when it's more than just a bunch of people bitching about it on a forum.

 

[Bonds79]

NExt year will have OLED screen without OLEOPHOBIC coating...................

 

[samcraig]

To be honest - I don't have the time or patience to read a bunch of comments on blogs/blog-type websites.

When it's on NBC, CBS, FOX, CNN, FNN, CNBC, or there's a statement from Apple you can let me know.

I maintain with completely conviction that the small percentage (so minute) of complaints doesn't begin to form an argument that the oleophobic coating is an issue. YET.

 

[Unspoken Demise]

@Sam
It will only be on Fox if Obama gets an iPhone and the coating starts to wear.

 

[.:R2theT]

I say Apple should stick with the optical glass minus the oleophobic coating.

I have had my 1st generation iPhone for almost 2 years now and it still doesn't have a single scratch.

The coating is a major reason I haven't updated to the 3GS. I don't trust it. Plus, it seems like window dressing. Was there any type of outcry about 1st gen or 3G models having excessively scratched screens?

 

[beamer8912]

Just pointing out that the number of hits you receive on a Google search is, at best, a weak indicator of how common something may be.

I'll believe in an epidemic when it's more than just a bunch of people bitching about it on a forum.

And I just pointed out the results didn't have anything to do with your search.

 

[gloss]

And I just pointed out the results didn't have anything to do with your search.

How about Exploding iPod Nano batteries?

http://www.google.com/#hl=en&q=ipod+nano+exploding+battery&aq=f&oq=&aqi=&fp=Xmf0jJ9P_V0

Results 1 - 10 of about 54,500 for ipod nano exploding battery

Clearly, it's an epidemic.

 

[maflynn]

My 3GS screen is virtually smudge free, has no scratches and looks so much better then my wife's 3G. Its hard to imagine that apple dropping this feature when it appears to be quite successful.

 

[samcraig]

My 3GS screen is virtually smudge free, has no scratches and looks so much better then my wife's 3G. Its hard to imagine that apple dropping this feature when it appears to be quite successful.

I have a protector on my screen. Oleophobic or not - I would rather have the added protection. I never had one on my BB and it got scraped up like nobody's business. But I don't think the BB lends itself to having a screen protector. But that might have been my "thing"

 

[MBHockey]

but no ones rehashing "BS"....i just stated my damn opinion. thats what i think and thats what i posted. my opinion. the question was....DO YOU THINK THEY SHOULD KEEP THE SCREEN...WHY AND WHY NOT....I ANSWERED. then i get little stupid remarks. its an opinion so dont tell me im rehashing any BS....cuz no one is. its my opinion.

You need to calm down. I love how you define your own experience with the 3GS scratching as "reading forums".

Simply stunning.

 

[nehunte]

I've seen three of the new 3Gs's in person with scratches on the screen. Its been out less than a month. I would say that's not a good trend. But maybe I saw the only three out of 1 million. You never know.

 

[samcraig]

I've seen three of the new 3Gs's in person with scratches on the screen. Its been out less than a month. I would say that's not a good trend. But maybe I saw the only three out of 1 million. You never know.

Do you know the full history of those 3? How they were treated (nor not treated)

 

[TheSpaz]

My question is...

If one iPhone 3GS screen can scratch or wear... can't ALL iPhone 3GS screens do that? All you need is ONE hit on google for this issue. I find it hard to believe that millions of iPhones have stronger oleophobic coatings while SOME have a weaker coating with less durability.

If one scratches... they ALL scratch. Truth is... the fancy oleophobic coating can get marked up. I think that's a pretty big deal. What is a person to do when they're coming from a highly scratch-resistant iPhone 3G to an iPhone 3GS and a month later they have tiny scratches that they can't explain?

Oleophobic really means that Apple wants you to have another reason to upgrade to the next iPhone due to your screen being scratched up over time.

The first gen iPhone was hard to damage (except for the glass screen). The iPhone casing didn't crack, the screen was hard to scratch, the buttons didn't fall off and the aluminum casing didn't scratch easily as well. The iPhone 3G became more destructible and now the iPhone 3GS is even MORE destructible.

You need to calm down. I love how you define your own experience with the 3GS scratching as "reading forums".

Simply stunning.

Do you really think he wants to risk ruining his own screen trying to find out if they scratch easily. Come on now... these aren't cheap devices.

 

[uberamd]

My question is...

If one iPhone 3GS screen can scratch or wear... can't ALL iPhone 3GS screens do that? All you need is ONE hit on google for this issue. I find it hard to believe that millions of iPhones have stronger oleophobic coatings while SOME have a weaker coating with less durability.

If one scratches... they ALL scratch. Truth is... the fancy oleophobic coating can get marked up. I think that's a pretty big deal. What is a person to do when they're coming from a highly scratch-resistant iPhone 3G to an iPhone 3GS and a month later they have tiny scratches that they can't explain?

Oleophobic really means that Apple wants you to have another reason to upgrade to the next iPhone due to your screen being scratched up over time.

The first gen iPhone was hard to damage (except for the glass screen). The iPhone casing didn't crack, the screen was hard to scratch, the buttons didn't fall off and the aluminum casing didn't scratch easily as well. The iPhone 3G became more destructible and now the iPhone 3GS is even MORE destructible.

So you are saying that Apple is intentionally making less durable hardware in a ploy to force users to upgrade every year? Thats ridiculous, even coming from you.

 

[TheSpaz]

So you are saying that Apple is intentionally making less durable hardware in a ploy to force users to upgrade every year? Thats ridiculous, even coming from you.

Why not? They can do whatever they want. It's their handset. As long as people are still buying them, why do they care if they get scratched up?

Why do they put so much chrome on their iPods and iPhones? If they wanted to make them durable, they could use material that doesn't break as easily and if they tried, they could still make it look good.

I hear a lot of people are holding onto their original iPhones just because they love the durability. If Apple made it so that the iPhone couldn't break... people wouldn't get rid of them as easily.

 

[gloss]

My question is...

If one iPhone 3GS screen can scratch or wear... can't ALL iPhone 3GS screens do that? All you need is ONE hit on google for this issue. I find it hard to believe that millions of iPhones have stronger oleophobic coatings while SOME have a weaker coating with less durability.

If one scratches... they ALL scratch.

One Nano exploded in an Audi and burned it to a crisp. Clearly all Nanos are explosive and should be kept away from automobiles.

Screen scratching is such a subjective thing - not everyone treats their devices the same way. Wear-and-tear is not a repeatable, consistent event.