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What I consider poor is a 2100 mAh battery not being able to beat out my iPhone 4S with a 1400 mAh battery. What you mentioned is about the same ballpark of what I am getting.

Sometimes I could not even get the battery life I am getting on my nexus 4 on my iPhone 5. Also it is called having double the processor of the iPhone 5. That takes a lot of battery to run.
 
Sometimes I could not even get the battery life I am getting on my nexus 4 on my iPhone 5. Also it is called having double the processor of the iPhone 5. That takes a lot of battery to run.

Well I don't have an iPhone 5 to compare it to. But let's not forget about LTE in the iPhone 5 that eats your battery like cookies while the Nexus 4 doesn't.

Also, in comparison to the iPhone 4S, the S4 Pro is a much more energy efficient CPU, thanks to the smaller 28nm as opposed to the iPhone 4S's 45nm. Add this to the fact that the kernel I am using is supposed to scale back CPU usage more aggressively, and most of the time when I look in my Franco Kernel app 2 cores are off, this doesn't make up for the 700 mAh difference in battery capacity.

So when you really look into the details a little further as opposed to just stopping at core count, its obvious to me that a 700 mAh better should be doing better than it currently is.

Could this be caused by a bad battery in my Nexus 4? Possibly. But I think another huge factor is just how well iOS is able to utilize available resources. That is why iOS always feels so smooth compared to an Android phone with similar specs. If you were to run the latest version of Android on the iPhone 5, it wouldn't feel nearly as smooth as iOS does on the iPhone 5. And I think this just goes to show how important OS efficiency is in both performance and battery life. And I think this is probably the biggest reason that people have been complaining about battery life on the Nexus 4.

And in case you are looking to try out Franco Kernel or already have, this is one of the newer features:
r125:
* Your device just got smarter - it now scales Interactive governor tunables based on system load - so on low load it caters for battery life and helps maintaining reasonably lower frequencies, when the system load gets higher, specially on high demand like games it will cater for more performance and your games will run even smoother.
 
Well I don't have an iPhone 5 to compare it to. But let's not forget about LTE in the iPhone 5 that eats your battery like cookies while the Nexus 4 doesn't.

Also, in comparison to the iPhone 4S, the S4 Pro is a much more energy efficient CPU, thanks to the smaller 28nm as opposed to the iPhone 4S's 45nm. Add this to the fact that the kernel I am using is supposed to scale back CPU usage more aggressively, and most of the time when I look in my Franco Kernel app 2 cores are off, this doesn't make up for the 700 mAh difference in battery capacity.

So when you really look into the details a little further as opposed to just stopping at core count, its obvious to me that a 700 mAh better should be doing better than it currently is.

Could this be caused by a bad battery in my Nexus 4? Possibly. But I think another huge factor is just how well iOS is able to utilize available resources. That is why iOS always feels so smooth compared to an Android phone with similar specs. If you were to run the latest version of Android on the iPhone 5, it wouldn't feel nearly as smooth as iOS does on the iPhone 5. And I think this just goes to show how important OS efficiency is in both performance and battery life. And I think this is probably the biggest reason that people have been complaining about battery life on the Nexus 4.

And in case you are looking to try out Franco Kernel or already have, this is one of the newer features:

Yea I think iOS does manage things much differently than android. Just take multitasking in both. IOS leaves apps in the last state they were in when you left the app. It does not keep running which saves battery. Android on the other hand keeps the app running the whole time you have the task open. Now I know there are some exceptions on iOS like Pandora and Safari. I could never get Safari to work in the background with audio, but that may have just been me.

I just like all the things about the way android runs much better than I like ios. I guess you could just call me a android guy.

Thanks for the post about that kernel, but I am not sure I want to get into loading Roms and such.
 
Yea I think iOS does manage things much differently than android. Just take multitasking in both. IOS leaves apps in the last state they were in when you left the app. It does not keep running which saves battery. Android on the other hand keeps the app running the whole time you have the task open. Now I know there are some exceptions on iOS like Pandora and Safari. I could never get Safari to work in the background with audio, but that may have just been me.

I just like all the things about the way android runs much better than I like ios. I guess you could just call me a android guy.

Thanks for the post about that kernel, but I am not sure I want to get into loading Roms and such.

Often times I would load up Google Music on Safari on my iPad and then go to different apps and audio would work just fine. And even if I turned the screen off it would work. Also double tapping the home button and using the controls would control the audio in Google Music without ever opening Safari. Multitasking always worked perfectly. And when I re-opened games they would load up extremely quickly right where I left off as if the game was running in the background the whole time. And that was for Infinity Blade II. But on my Nexus 4, switching from Cut The Rope to another app and then back to the game feels fairly laggy.

I have also noticed that even with no apps running in the background on Android, it uses way more power in idle over my iPhone.

Loading ROMs can be a pain because of all your apps. But kernels are super easy.
 
Often times I would load up Google Music on Safari on my iPad and then go to different apps and audio would work just fine. And even if I turned the screen off it would work. Also double tapping the home button and using the controls would control the audio in Google Music without ever opening Safari. Multitasking always worked perfectly. And when I re-opened games they would load up extremely quickly right where I left off as if the game was running in the background the whole time. And that was for Infinity Blade II. But on my Nexus 4, switching from Cut The Rope to another app and then back to the game feels fairly laggy.

I have also noticed that even with no apps running in the background on Android, it uses way more power in idle over my iPhone.

Loading ROMs can be a pain because of all your apps. But kernels are super easy.

Yea I don't know. I like android sure iOS does some things better, but I still like android. I may need to check the kernel thing out.

How do I get a kernel on my phone? Also if it does not help the battery what do I need it for?
 
Yea I don't know. I like android sure iOS does some things better, but I still like android. I may need to check the kernel thing out.

How do I get a kernel on my phone? Also if it does not help the battery what do I need it for?

If you are rooted all you need to do is flash it inside your recovery. Then that's it.

One other thing that a custom kernel will help with is the screen. The Nexus 4 screen hasn't been calibrated at all, but inside the Franco Kernel app, you can easily adjust the calibration of the screen. Also included is a screen preset to give much better colors (IMO).
 
If you are rooted all you need to do is flash it inside your recovery. Then that's it.

One other thing that a custom kernel will help with is the screen. The Nexus 4 screen hasn't been calibrated at all, but inside the Franco Kernel app, you can easily adjust the calibration of the screen. Also included is a screen preset to give much better colors (IMO).

Oh OK. Well I have never rooted before and kind of don't want to get into that.
 
Oh OK. Well I have never rooted before and kind of don't want to get into that.

Well if you ever do, it opens up some amazing functionality on your device. Definitely better than jailbreaking. Plus, it is extremely simple.

The ability to root and have this kind of customization is probably one of the main reasons I will never buy another iPhone.
 
Well if you ever do, it opens up some amazing functionality on your device. Definitely better than jailbreaking. Plus, it is extremely simple.

The ability to root and have this kind of customization is probably one of the main reasons I will never buy another iPhone.

Yea I guess I am just scared I will screw it up. Jailbreaking an iPhone is super simple. I agree there is some stuff to do with it, but not much.
 
Yea I guess I am just scared I will screw it up. Jailbreaking an iPhone is super simple. I agree there is some stuff to do with it, but not much.

I haven't jailbroken in a while, so I can't remember all the steps.

But rooting a Nexus 4 from a Windows machine is as easy as downloading the correct files, reboot into fastboot, and type "fastboot flash recovery recovery.img" into command prompt.

At that point, you have a custom recovery and can flash a super user app, ROMs, kernels, and everything.

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Im getting over 1 day of standby and 5 hours SOT with my N4.

Unfortunately that does not seem to be the norm. What ROM and kernel are you running?
 
I haven't jailbroken in a while, so I can't remember all the steps.

But rooting a Nexus 4 from a Windows machine is as easy as downloading the correct files, reboot into fastboot, and type "fastboot flash recovery recovery.img" into command prompt.

At that point, you have a custom recovery and can flash a super user app, ROMs, kernels, and everything.

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Unfortunately that does not seem to be the norm. What ROM and kernel are you running?

I don't have a windows computer. That is the other thing I am not so sure about. I have a Mac.
 
I haven't jailbroken in a while, so I can't remember all the steps.

But rooting a Nexus 4 from a Windows machine is as easy as downloading the correct files, reboot into fastboot, and type "fastboot flash recovery recovery.img" into command prompt.

At that point, you have a custom recovery and can flash a super user app, ROMs, kernels, and everything.

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Unfortunately that does not seem to be the norm. What ROM and kernel are you running?

Sabermod rom with its own baked in kernel. Check it out its amazing.
 
So my galaxy nexus has a super fast shutter speed. My nexus 4 seems to have to focus every time you want to take a picture. It want take nearly as fast. Is there a way to make it faster?
 
Well I don't have an iPhone 5 to compare it to. But let's not forget about LTE in the iPhone 5 that eats your battery like cookies while the Nexus 4 doesn't.

This is actually not true btw, it hasn't been for a while. Maybe when LTE was initially rolled out, but the newer LTE chips are much more power efficient. And LTE radios are more efficient than HSPA+. Of course it also depends on a ton of other variables, including network load.

I have also noticed that even with no apps running in the background on Android, it uses way more power in idle over my iPhone.

I agree with this. Where I see the biggest difference is always in standby. While I would tend to expect my Nexus 4 to perform worse, b/c I know I have processes that run while asleep, I'd never expect to see a drastic difference. My wakelocks are always seemingly random, and they absolutely kill me. But I learned to just deal with it.

I don't have a windows computer. That is the other thing I am not so sure about. I have a Mac.

So easy, and there is a guide and youtube video over on the xda forum for this. It's no more complicated than jailbreaking, but it's more of a manual process. I remember the only reason I got hung up on it was b/c you have to set USB debugging twice, and for the life of me I couldn't figure out why it continually failed. What doesn't really help is that since the process isn't all automated, when you run into a random problem there is so much info to sift through.
 
Yeah, I was using the Franco Milestone 1 kernel and still getting the 2 hour screen on time. Just flashed the r125 nightly, so I'm hoping for better battery life because honestly, this kind of battery life is not acceptable without LTE. I'm running PA 3.15 along with the Franco kernel, but I feel that would not affect battery life. While flashing new kernels for screen calibration and battery life is okay for technophiles like me, most people are not willing to risk bricking their phone for it (although bricking is really not a big concern... although most do not understand that either).
 
Hey guys I got the phone a few days ago! Love it but I couldn't help but notice yesterday that when I put in headphones they slant to the left... is this normal? I've did a few readings on other threads and others say theirs did the same... but just wanted to see if you guys had it also.
 
Yeah, I was using the Franco Milestone 1 kernel and still getting the 2 hour screen on time. Just flashed the r125 nightly, so I'm hoping for better battery life because honestly, this kind of battery life is not acceptable without LTE. I'm running PA 3.15 along with the Franco kernel, but I feel that would not affect battery life. While flashing new kernels for screen calibration and battery life is okay for technophiles like me, most people are not willing to risk bricking their phone for it (although bricking is really not a big concern... although most do not understand that either).

Paranoid Android is a resource hog, try a leaner ROM like Rasbeanjelly or Sabermod. Im getting 5+ hours SOT and 1 day standby.
 
Hey guys I got the phone a few days ago! Love it but I couldn't help but notice yesterday that when I put in headphones they slant to the left... is this normal? I've did a few readings on other threads and others say theirs did the same... but just wanted to see if you guys had it also.

What doest "slant to the left" stands for ?
 
Hey guys I got the phone a few days ago! Love it but I couldn't help but notice yesterday that when I put in headphones they slant to the left... is this normal? I've did a few readings on other threads and others say theirs did the same... but just wanted to see if you guys had it also.

Yep mine hangs to the left lol :)
 
Paranoid Android is a resource hog, try a leaner ROM like Rasbeanjelly or Sabermod. Im getting 5+ hours SOT and 1 day standby.

Hm... I'll consider it if r125 doesn't do the trick for me. So far, though, it looks as if the marriage between PA and r125 extends the battery life enough to where I don't have to worry about plugging it in before I go to bed. Is CyanogenMod as bad as PA? I've only run CM on my Note II before I sold it, but that thing had a monster battery so nothing could really kill it...
 
Hm... I'll consider it if r125 doesn't do the trick for me. So far, though, it looks as if the marriage between PA and r125 extends the battery life enough to where I don't have to worry about plugging it in before I go to bed. Is CyanogenMod as bad as PA? I've only run CM on my Note II before I sold it, but that thing had a monster battery so nothing could really kill it...

Not sure about CM but i know PA is not the best on battery. My recommendation would be Sabermod with the built in kernel or Rasbeanjelly with Trinity kernel.
 
Yea I think iOS does manage things much differently than android. Just take multitasking in both. IOS leaves apps in the last state they were in when you left the app. It does not keep running which saves battery. Android on the other hand keeps the app running the whole time you have the task open.

This is one of those great misunderstanding about Android. Unless you make a background process apps are halted like on iOS when they are on background
 
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