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The biggest problem I see with the Nexus 5 is the inability to focus while recording video.

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Here are more photo and video samples.

http://www.androidcentral.com/nexus-5-initial-photo-and-video-samples

This can be a founded fear for sure. If the camera is based on the G2 at all then it might be an issue. The G2 has issues with autofocus, although I have read that it might be software and flashing another camera program helps greatly, but I haven't tried this.
 
The adapters can be a bit tricky with phones with sim trays. I know many people screwed up their sim slot with the Nexus 4 because they left the sim adapter in the sim tray without the sim card installed. And it was next to impossible to get the sim tray out with the adapter installed. It is just something to be aware of (don't leave the adapter in the tray if you take the sim out).

SIM adapters in a tray are a terrible idea. I messed up the one in my Nexus 4 and had to take it to a phone repair shop. It probably wasn't too bad since they managed to fix it but it still freaked me out.
 
I think The Verge worded that incorrectly. AFAIK, that will not be possible with the N5. You can do that from the homescreen but not to wake it up.

I also questioned the article at first but it does say 'just like the moto x', and looking at qualcomm's site, the processor supports listening while in idle so I think the phone should support waking up by voice if they decide to program it in.
 
Am i crazy that I'm thinking about switching from VZ to Tmobile just to jump aboard the Nexus ship?

iPads are still the way to go in tablets IMO, but I feel like for me, Android just has more flexibility.

I switch carriers a few times a year so if you're crazy I should be admitted :p
 
I also questioned the article at first but it does say 'just like the moto x', and looking at qualcomm's site, the processor supports listening while in idle so I think the phone should support waking up by voice if they decide to program it in.

It also seems to be referring to the 4.4 "update" which we already know doesn't enable that functionality. I haven't seen it reported anywhere that it will. I think Google would of made it clear that functionality was coming if they planned on supporting it.
 
Yeah, I guess they are taking advantage of the less patient or the less informed or those who just don't care and will spend the extra for it.

If you look on ebay, some people are selling them for $500 and up even when they show the reciept that says how much they paid and when it will ship to the seller. I dont know why anybody would buy those when they can just buy one from Google themselves.
 
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Being a Nexus, it is a big upgrade. We arent really on the same page but thats ok. I dont need a debate for days :p

Nothing to debate really. The Nexus 5 is a huge upgrade over 4, and is mostly on par with other 2013 android heavy hitters. On paper...

Unknown variables is call quality, cellular reception, camera quality, battery life and real world usage performance. We'll have those answers with time.
 
You might be interested in this. Around the 4 minute mark he demonstrates the scrolling touch response is closer and better now.

Those marginal milliseconds of difference becoming even more negligible:

YouTube: video

It certainly looks better than last year's N4 (and far better than the 2012 N7). I'll have to find a way to try it and get some hands-on experience with all my commonly used apps. I learnt not to trust online reviews of Android devices after I read multiple reviews of the 2012 N7 that said it was lag-free.

It would definitely save me a lot of money, which is what I'm interested in now that Apple's jacking up their prices here by insane amounts.
 
Nothing to debate really. The Nexus 5 is a huge upgrade over 4, and is mostly on par with other 2013 android heavy hitters. On paper...

Unknown variables is call quality, cellular reception, camera quality, battery life and real world usage performance. We'll have those answers with time.
The Camera looks to be pretty decent in what we have seen so far in here. Its very comparable to the S4 and in many shots, it took better pics than the S4 so i think im going to be fine with the camera. Now on the to battery results.
 
Being a Nexus, it is a big upgrade. We arent really on the same page but thats ok. I dont need a debate for days :p

Sure, all things considered. But my original point, which only 2 other people seem to have understand, is that when you look at it objectively, it is a decent upgrade with no additional cost to the consumer. You know what other phone falls under that? The 5s, GS4, HTC One, etc.
 
Sure, all things considered. But my original point, which only 2 other people seem to have understand, is that when you look at it objectively, it is a decent upgrade with no additional cost to the consumer. You know what other phone falls under that? The 5s, GS4, HTC One, etc.

I disagree, i think its a much larger update then the other phones you listed, the OIS on the camera alone is a huge upgrade. Not to mention now having LTE, a 1080p 5" screen, 32gb storage option and the fastest CPU available.
 
I disagree, i think its a much larger update then the other phones you listed, the OIS on the camera alone is a huge upgrade. Not to mention now having LTE, a 1080p 5" screen, 32gb storage option and the fastest CPU available.

OIS is nothing new, LTE is standard on all other flagships, as is a 1080p screen nowadays. 32GB was a long time coming. Snapdragon 800 is the flagship CPU at this time, much like the S4 Pro with the Nexus 4.
 
OIS is nothing new, LTE is standard on all other flagships, as is a 1080p screen nowadays. 32GB was a long time coming. Snapdragon 800 is the flagship CPU at this time, much like the S4 Pro with the Nexus 4.
These are all big upgrades from the Nexus 4, there is no arguing that afaik. Just because something is "a long time coming" or "a standard these days" does not mean getting them is not a big step up from the previous model. Especially when you are getting all these flagship upgrades on such a cheap phone. If the Nexus 5 was the same cost as the other phones you listed and only just got these upgrades then i would agree with you but that is not the case, it is getting flagship upgrades on a Nexus phone!!
 
OIS is nothing new, LTE is standard on all other flagships, as is a 1080p screen nowadays. 32GB was a long time coming. Snapdragon 800 is the flagship CPU at this time, much like the S4 Pro with the Nexus 4.

Qualcomm's QFE1100 envelop tracker and MEMS are two hardware features that I was glad to see added to the Nexus 5. Mind you Nexus phones have traditionally not been ultra cutting edge, in order to keep the price low, but this time around Google has added very high end stuff.

I think this is primarily why so many people consider this such a huge step for a Nexus phone. For $350 you get a 1080p resolution, MEMS camera, qualcomms latest chipset (with added power saving and heat reducing benefits, and it is an unlocked world phone. I paid $550 for the S3 when it came out and I now feel that was over-priced. And I don't want to even think about how much I spent on iPhones over the years (I never buy on contract.)
 
OIS is nothing new, LTE is standard on all other flagships, as is a 1080p screen nowadays. 32GB was a long time coming. Snapdragon 800 is the flagship CPU at this time, much like the S4 Pro with the Nexus 4.

Again, for a Nexus...these are big upgrades. I guess your not going to get this.

You keep calling the N5 their flagship when it is their only phone and again....it was never meant to compete with all the others. It was always a developer phone. You know, a phone where they dont advertise and only sold it in one place cheap so developers could get hold of it with Googles newest OS so they can tweak it and add to it,etc....and sure they will give it a camera but it isnt important that it has a good one, etc.
They didnt really care to put LTE in the last one because the rest of the world doesnt have it and they called the N4 a world phone but here in the USA, many cried about it and cried about it only having 8GB and 16GB. So looks like they are upping their game here. Maybe they see how popular it is getting and why they have made some on par upgrades to see how well that is recieved.

So for a Nexus....all these upgrades of being on par or better with the processor than anyone else is BIG! It has never happened before so of all the other phones you have listed, this one has the biggest upgrades by far, regardless if you want to keeping saying they are nothing new. Its new and BIG for Nexus.


No the GS3 to a GS4 wasnt a big upgrade or any of Apples the past three years but this one is!
 
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Qualcomm's QFE1100 envelop tracker and MEMS are two hardware features that I was glad to see added to the Nexus 5.

The envelope tracking is nothing specific to the Nexus 5. Even if it was, although a nice addition, isn't anything ground breaking. And certainly doesn't bring as much optimization as the Moto X.

I was unaware the Nexus 5 got an MEMS camera. All sources I have seen said that was just a rumor that never came true.
The rumor about the new Nexus 5 getting a MEMS camera has crashed into the ground
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Nexu...features-specs-and-all-we-know-so-far_id47236

Don't get me wrong, I am very excited about the Nexus 5. Bought in less than 3 minutes of it being available. It has some nice hardware bumps. But there isn't anything that makes it mind blowing.
 
Google playing catchup. Still far from mind blowing or earth shattering.


Just want to point out one tiny thing here. You say the Nexus 5 adding LTE is just "catching" up and it sounds like you don't consider that your "big change" (whatever that definition is)...

Yet... you say the iPhone 6 will be a bigger deal when it adds a bigger screen. One has to wonder how that isn't also simply "playing catchup." And you wonder why people are asking you to clarify what you say...
 
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Am i crazy that I'm thinking about switching from VZ to Tmobile just to jump aboard the Nexus ship?

iPads are still the way to go in tablets IMO, but I feel like for me, Android just has more flexibility.


Not crazy. I'm trying to get everyone I know off Verizon. They complain about a myriad of things about Verizon (namely price) more than they enjoy the supposedly insanely good service.

I loathe Verizon. Their carrier branding on devices (on the home button) is sickening.

Switch.
 
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