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It is that bad. Have you tried speakerphone lol? It seems no matter who is on the other end of the phone call whether it be a cell or land line, speakerphone sucks. However, playing music through spotify is quite a bit better. Even still this is one of the quietest, if not the quietest speakers I have heard. I actually may agree with the "iVerge" review on that aspect. Us fans of Google / Android and the Nexus program have a hard time accepting criticism for the things we love. Hell anyone has a hard time accepting criticism for what you love or want to love.

When compared to the 5S; the Nexus 5 at full volume is equal to the 5S at half.
My experience is very different. The speakerphone works absolutely fine for me, is more than adequate, and doesn't seem quiet at all to me. It is louder than the one on my iPhone 4S. While I appreciate that the 5S might be twice as loud, I never had an issue with the Nexus 4 or iPhone 4S, and I don't have an issue with this one. While it might "suck" in your opinion, and I certainly understand you might need/want louder volumes, I don't think most will have an issue with it.
The iPhone 5S is $199 to make. Apple chooses to sell them for $649. If Apple can make a great phone for $199 then so should Google and LG be able to.
Just as a guess here, but Apple might, just maybe, be able to build devices for less because they produce just a couple more of them. The economics of scale favor them heavily, and what they can build for $199 isn't what most can build for $199. Also, component costs are only a part of the cost per phone. There's labor, packaging, warranty items, shipping, and so on. Google's goal is to provide an affordable high-end phone, and they've done so. That $350 you save (32GB is $749, I think) could probably buy a decent bluetooth speakerphone. ;) Of course, though, if it doesn't suit your needs, it's not the right phone for you.
Even if the Nexus 5 cost $199 to make or perhaps $250, or $275 an extra $75 above the cost of the iPhone for a huge company such as LG should be plenty to spare to make THE HIGHEST quality phone out there.
LG is a huge company, but the N5 is not a huge production for them. Also, don't forget all the other costs. It's not just parts.
If Google is really all about getting 4.4 and android into the next billion customers, they should make the highest quality phones and perhaps think about selling them at or near cost to build and make profit from the play store instead.
That's what they do.

Look, I understand that the Nexus 5 could be better. But most of it is exceptional, and the few things that aren't are not bad. The speaker could be better/louder, granted, and the camera could be better - but I think that's a software issue more than anything. Still, in the end, it comes down to what you get for your money, and I don't think you can get anything as good as the N5 for anything even remotely near its price.

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Do you have experience with the Note 2 and if so how would you rate the headhone amp on it to that of the N5?
I've listened to a coworker's, but that was months ago, so I can't really recall other than it sounded pretty decent (I was using my work headphones, which are Sennheiser HD555's).

I don't think the N5 will come across as sounding noticeably worse than the Note 2, but it might not sound as good. I just don't remember. It's not as good as an iPhone 5 (presumably, the 5S is as good or better), but it's close enough, and unless you use higher-end cans, you're not likely to notice a big difference.

Again, it's not audiophile-grade, but it's a huge leap forward from the N4, which sucked.
Come to think of it, the difficulty of putting a case on the damn thing might be the worst down side to this phone :D Haven't touched one for real yet of course but going by the pics and vids I've seen....it just has that purity of the monolith on 2001 to it.
The only reason I'm encasing mine is the fear of dropping it. I will hate to do so, though, because this thing feels amazing int he hand - better than any other phone I've held. So nice.
 
Battery on the N5 can't be any worse than I'm getting on the 5s. I'm down to 66% been off charge since 630am
 
That's like saying "just adopt another kid when yours is severely injured."

You have no heart, mattopotamus. None at all.

;)

Haha I just hate cases, and like you said this phone feels great without a case. I think square trade is $7.99 a month and best buy is $9.99 a month.
 
Haha I just hate cases, and like you said this phone feels great without a case. I think square trade is $7.99 a month and best buy is $9.99 a month.
I can get a case for $10! ;)

I take the case off daily and play with it in the specially-padded room I am kept in for my own safety built. So it knows freedom. Just not when outside.
 
Cost to build vs msrp.

Let's see Samsung cost to build is about the same as Apple. At around $230.

But Samsung sold S3 at msrp for $550 at ATT stores in 2012.

Now this year S4 msrp is $629?

So who's jacking up prices?

?

The iPhone 5s is roughly $200 according to the teardown by ifixit with an increase of about $10 for more memory, which Apple charges $100 more for.

The S4 is around $235, but retails for $20 less than the iPhone.

You are trying to rationalize in favor of the iPhone, how again?
 
OK I've got mine sitting in a box in my office just staring at me. I have way too much work to do to open it and start tinkering, sigh.
 
You guys are bad news, hehe. Yeah I'd like to fondle it, but once it's out of the box my work will go to hell.

the good thing is you do not have to tinker too much if you are coming from an android phone. Apps download automatically, contact, pretty much everything except for settings. It took me less than 30 mins to get everything to my liking...including google voice for voicemail. I currently, for the first time, am not using a launcher.
 
You guys are bad news, hehe. Yeah I'd like to fondle it, but once it's out of the box my work will go to hell.
it'll be OK. Just take it out, unwrap it, and plug the charger in. Just the tip. Oh, and touch it just enough for it to want to start loading your apps.

It'll be fine. You have enough self control to stop then. You don't need to go all the way.
 
]it'll be OK. Just take it out, unwrap it, and plug the charger in. [/B]Just the tip. Oh, and touch it just enough for it to want to start loading your apps.

It'll be fine. You have enough self control to stop then. You don't need to go all the way.

mine came with about 90% battery :)
 
LOL. Ye dirty slutty beggar !!! let alone the mess you leave on the work table :p

Man, I wish I had your level of self discipline.

And your phone too :(

OK I fondled it a bit, I also took pics of it next to my G2 before I sold it (10 minutes ago). It's a nice feeling phone, kind of hollow feeling but that's not a bad thing. Speaker loudness and battery life will make me keep it, or finally go back to my ip5s.

The back seems to pick up gunk very easily, hopefully my body guardz get here soon.
 
OK I fondled it a bit, I also took pics of it next to my G2 before I sold it (10 minutes ago). It's a nice feeling phone, kind of hollow feeling but that's not a bad thing. Speaker loudness and battery life will make me keep it, or finally go back to my ip5s.

The back seems to pick up gunk very easily, hopefully my body guardz get here soon.

Did you go for white or black ?
 
16GBs - $349

Official specs, according to a leaked service manual:
-4.95" 1080p (IPS TFT) display
-32GBs storage (no other capacities specified)
-2GBs RAM
-2.3GHz S800 CPU
-8MP Rear, 1.3MP FF cameras
-2300mAH battery
-Sensors: Accelerometer, Gyroscope, Compass, Proximity/Ambient Light, Pressure
-Slimport support
-Micro SIM
-Notification Light
-Wireless Charging
-NFC
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I would rather get an iPhone 5S next, but, the price of an unlocked Nexus 5 versus an unlocked 5S is key for me.
 
Cost to build vs msrp.

Let's see Samsung cost to build is about the same as Apple. At around $230.

But Samsung sold S3 at msrp for $550 at ATT stores in 2012.

Now this year S4 msrp is $629?

So who's jacking up prices?

It's still apple. That wasn't a very good example.

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OK I fondled it a bit, I also took pics of it next to my G2 before I sold it (10 minutes ago). It's a nice feeling phone, kind of hollow feeling but that's not a bad thing. Speaker loudness and battery life will make me keep it, or finally go back to my ip5s.

The back seems to pick up gunk very easily, hopefully my body guardz get here soon.

Look what you guys did. He's probably sitting in his car in the parking lot playing with his phone now while his co workers wonder where he is..
 
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