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Nexus 5

onthecouchagain said:
I've since thought of and tested more examples of how the back button does work perfectly fine, but I won't get into it.

What Straus wanted -- where the back button returned to whatever was the previous screen no matter what, even if it was a separate app -- would also put us in an infinite loop. Pointing this out should have been the end of the conversation. So even if the current implementation of the back button is, once in a rare while, funky, Straus' idea for the back button would have truly been bizarre, regardless of his [false or inapplicable] analogy he kept bringing up about traveling to and from highways.

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Here we go again. Heh.

Again, Straus, you should be glad it doesn't. Taking you back to the last screen, no matter what, would put you in an infinite loop. I gave you many examples of this. How do you reconcile that in your Android-world where the back button does that? I really don't get it.
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Oh I didn't notice that it does bottom out at the home screen. I don't think it would be a bad thing to have an infinite loop at all though, but at the same time I don't think it's a big deal in the least. I think if there was simply a setting, like there is for looping thru your home screens for example.
 
bmac4 said:
So back on track. Are we looking at a October 28th or the 31st for the announcement? Which do you guys see as more believable?
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I don't know what to make of the KitKat teases. I think a Halloween announcement makes a lot of sense, and Artem Russakovskii says that is the date he was given a month ago. If they make the announcements and release the SDK on Oct 31, then they could release the Nexus 5 and 4.4 mid November. I wouldn't mind if they announced it tomorrow afternoon, though. :D
 
bmac4 said:
Agree 100%. Just would not have followed the whole dessert theme.
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Chocolate bacon as dessert...absolutely!! Just appears will have to wait for the next pass through the alphabet. Bacolate, Chocobacon...

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bmac4 said:
So back on track. Are we looking at a October 28th or the 31st for the announcement? Which do you guys see as more believable?
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How about announcement on the 28th and release to public on the 31st?
 
spinedoc77 said:
I don't think it would be a bad thing to have an infinite loop at all though.
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If you read through the exchange between Straus and I, you'll see why it's not something you want:

onthecouchagain said:
Straus, answer me this, please:

-I open the Play Store to a list of apps.

-I click an app and it takes me to the app description.

-Then I hit back, it takes me back to the list of apps.

-Then I hit back again, what should it do?

In your world where the back button always literally takes me back to the previous screen/state, wouldn't that put me in an infinite loop between the app description and the list of apps?

You want the Back button to always literally take you back to the previous state/screen, no matter what or where that was, right? That's what you said and have been preaching

Wouldn't that put you stuck in between two screens forever???
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onthecouchagain said:
Actually, let's use your own example.


-I'm in Chrome. I hit App Switcher to go to Tapatalk. You want the back button to go back to Chrome, right?

-So let's say I hit Back and it goes back from Tapatalk to Chrome, as you so desire.

-If I hit Back again, by your own logic, shouldn't it go back to Tapatalk, then?

Now, the Back button is doing what you want, right? Going back to the previous state/screen, even if it's a different app. So in this scenario, if we keep hitting the Back button, it'll be forever stuck between Chrome and Tapatalk. Remember, now I am using your logic for what the Back button should do.
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In other words, there'd be no possible way to go backwards within an app. It'd just keep flipping between the same two screens. That was, apparently, what Straus wanted his back button to do. And he wanted this mainly because he wanted the back button to take you back to the previous app after switching to it, but that's precisely what the App Switcher button already does. And again, there'd be no way to go backwards in the app you've just switched to then.

Anyhoo!
 
Lava Lamp Freak said:
I don't think release will happen that quickly after announcement. They'll give devs a little time to make changes in their texting apps first.
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How many days did it take for the Nexus 4 to go on sale after announcement? Didn't it just sort of go up on the web the following Monday after the canceled-event?

That's under a week, then, no? Could be different this year, but hopefully the same.
 
Lava Lamp Freak said:
I'm feeling that infinite loop right now.
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Do you guys need to me to start railing on Google Now's touchscreen requirements again to quickly redirect the thread elsewhere? ;):D

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onthecouchagain said:
How many days did it take for the Nexus 4 to go on sale after announcement? Didn't it just sort of go up on the web the following Monday after the canceled-event?

That's under a week, then, no? Could be different this year, but hopefully the same.
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No, it was about 2 weeks (announced on Oct 29 after a delay because of Hurricane Sandy and released for sale on Nov 13). But wasn't the latest version of JB also announced that day almost immediately available on other devices, the Nexus 7 first, IIRC?
 
This is seriously like the third time this thread has gone seriously off topic. Hopefully those that just want to bicker about things that nobody is going to concede a point on will move on to another thread about a phone I have no interest in.

Isn't the Note 3 thread still active? (Sorry to the Note 3 fans!)

I know the standard refrain of "Nobody is making you read the thread" but occasionally there is a link to new information or rumors about the Nexus 5.

I guess I keep coming to this thread anticipating some nugget of information among the drivel. I am like the little boy in a stable full of ****, thinking, there has to be a pony in there somewhere!
 
onthecouchagain said:
How many days did it take for the Nexus 4 to go on sale after announcement? Didn't it just sort of go up on the web the following Monday after the canceled-event?

That's under a week, then, no? Could be different this year, but hopefully the same.
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The Nexus 4 was released on Nov 13.

Someone has uncovered a JavaScript countdown timer. So, at least that is something definitive.

http://www.phonearena.com/news/Android-4.4-KitKat-website-will-have-a-countdown-timer_id48360

tbayrgs said:
Do you guys need to me to start railing on Google Now's touchscreen requirements again to quickly redirect the thread elsewhere? ;):D
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Do whatever makes you feel good, but I prefer the chocolate-covered bacon.
 

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tbayrgs said:
No, it was about 2 weeks (announced on Oct 29 after a delay because of Hurricane Sandy and released for sale on Nov 13). But wasn't the latest version of JB also announced that day almost immediately available on other devices, the Nexus 7 first, IIRC?
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Oh, you're absolutely right. What happened that Monday was a soft announcement, of sorts, where they just threw it up on the website and I guess sent out press releases to the blogs/press.

Oh well then. Guess we'll all have to hold onto our horses. We probably won't get the Nexus 5 in our hands until mid-November, as usual.
 
onthecouchagain said:
Oh, you're absolutely right. What happened that Monday was a soft announcement, of sorts, where they just threw it up on the website and I guess sent out press releases to the blogs/press.

Oh well then. Guess we'll all have to hold onto our horses. We probably won't get the Nexus 5 in our hands until mid-November, as usual.
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Yea that sounds about right. Halloween announcement sounds about right. With 2 weeks from that being a release.

Now I have to decide if I get it at launch, or wait like I normally do. Currently I have the HTC One, nexus 4, and iPhone 5. I would want to sell something to get money for the N5. Just don't know if I want to sell anything other than the N4 which want yield much of anything. I may just wait, but I know I will want it once it is announced.
 
onthecouchagain said:
Touche. Straus must be hitting the back button. ;)

I'll stop.
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Really? You're going to bring up old posts as well and point me out like I'm the only one causing this rehashing of an old argument? You are so hypocritical.

But if you want to keep going and say false information about how I think my implementation would be perfect, go right ahead. I've already said that no implementation of a single back button will be perfect as its impossible for one button to logically follow the complex uses of a smartphone.

strausd said:
Now back to thinking about the current implementation of the back button. It works like an autonomous car that doesn't understand "last location." Is the current implementation of the back button perfect? No. Would this implementation make it perfect? No. There is no perfect way to have a single "back" button that works perfectly because yes, in some circumstances you need to go backwards within the app. The problem right now is that it is inconsistent. It would be cool if they kept the current implementation of the back button, made it consistent, and added the ability to quickly double-tap the multitasking button to quickly take you to the last app you were in. And really, they should change the name of the back button because it is illogical according to its name.
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Oohara said:
My bet is the 31st - Halloween. Simplest answer.



WTF that stuff actually looks tasty :eek:
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Don't ask. Suffice to say this thread needed a redirection earlier and we somehow ended up on chocolate bacon. And yes, if you've never had the chance to try it, it's very tasty. :D
 
Ugh, mid November seems like forever to get that phone in my hands lol. On another note (ha) I satisfied my curiosity of the note 3 vs the nexus 5 today at Verizon. That screen on the G2 looks so much better IMO.
 
THE JUICEMAN said:
Ugh, mid November seems like forever to get that phone in my hands lol. On another note (ha) I satisfied my curiosity of the note 3 vs the nexus 5 today at Verizon. That screen on the G2 looks so much better IMO.
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I already picked up the Note 3 but will be picking up the Nexus 5 this year as well. Want to see if I'll like stock android and a 5 inch display. Past on the Nexus last year because no LTE was a no go for me.
 
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