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Nexus One switchers?

ViViDboarder said:
Interesting and definitely a good idea. Basically this will cut down on actual Android updates and reserve them for core functions rather than things that could be bundled into Apps. This gives manufacturers more time to distribute their OS upgrades (because they should be a little less frequent), which gives developers less versions to develop for.

Bravo Google.
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Isn't Apple doing a similar thing on the iPad with the iBookstore app? If I remember correctly, it's not installed on the iPad out of the box. It's an app that you download through the App Store. I read that it's set up this way so that they (Apple) can push out updates to the program at any time, without having to release an entirely new OS version. This seems like how they should also do the "core" apps like maps, mail, Safari, etc. Would be much easier to update/upgrade the apps that way, when all they would have to do is push the updated app to the App Store instead of hammering their servers each time they upgrade the OS for minor tweaks to core programs.
 
chris975d said:
Isn't Apple doing a similar thing on the iPad with the iBookstore app? If I remember correctly, it's not installed on the iPad out of the box. It's an app that you download through the App Store. I read that it's set up this way so that they (Apple) can push out updates to the program at any time, without having to release an entirely new OS version. This seems like how they should also do the "core" apps like maps, mail, Safari, etc. Would be much easier to update/upgrade the apps that way, when all they would have to do is push the updated app to the App Store instead of hammering their servers each time they upgrade the OS for minor tweaks to core programs.
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They did that with the iTunes Remote app, but I agree that it would be a good idea. Now that the platforms are mostly independent of their applications they could easily do this. It's not like Mail or Safari have had any updates not worth waiting for though. With the iTunes remote and the iBookstore, I can see there being logic to that... iTunes updates often and may need fixing. They wouldn't want to have to wait on an iTunes update because there isn't a new version of iPhone OS to push the update out with. Same can go with the bookstore for licensing changes with their publishing companies. It's a good format. Very much more computer like.
 
Vandam500 said:
Hmm thats interesting. I haven't really used the multi-touch for anything more then pinching and zooming which works fine every time. I will definitely try and find some games that support multi-touch and I'll post my results. Thanks for the video btw.
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Haha, that's pretty funny. On the good side, it looks like it's responding quickly and accurately only the X or Y axis was flipped. This wouldn't actually effect any pinch or expand gesture as the distance between the two points is still accurately reflected.
 
ViViDboarder said:
Haha, that's pretty funny. On the good side, it looks like it's responding quickly and accurately only the X or Y axis was flipped. This wouldn't actually effect any pinch or expand gesture as the distance between the two points is still accurately reflected.
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Okay I guess it isn't a huge issue to most people and it probably won't to me since usually all I use is pinch and zoom I'm not much of a gamer on phones. Just made me realize how great the touch screen and multitouch is on the iPhones. Something that truly the iphone will always be the best at.
 
ajohnson253 said:
Okay I guess it isn't a huge issue to most people and it probably won't to me since usually all I use is pinch and zoom I'm not much of a gamer on phones. Just made me realize how great the touch screen and multitouch is on the iPhones. Something that truly the iphone will always be the best at.
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I don't know about "will always be the best"... The Droid touch screen is pretty good and we haven't seen any of the new touch screens yet.
 
Well much to even my surprise, I've decided to go back to my 3GS.

It really has nothing to do with the phone itself, but more with the apps available. There's really not much I use my iPhone for outside of email, todo list and checkbook. The Gmail integration on the N1 is fantastic and I really couldn't have asked for anything better but for the other two, everything I tried was just lacking.

I don't know how NONE of the to do apps in the android market support choosing which days a task will repeat on. It seems like such a basic function. And for my balance management, why can't I have categories? I don't want my checking account balances lumped in with my credit cards and savings accounts. It just doesn't make any sense.

The N1 keyboard works perfectly. I did notice that your finger presses have to be a little more precise and spaced and I never really did get used to it. The iPhone's keyboard is more enjoyable, IMO. As far as media management, I really don't understand why everybody's so negative about iTunes. It works great for me and I never did get around to putting music on the N1. The iPod on the 3GS works great and I paid good money to have the cable installed in my car. Having backups is nice too.

So really, those of you who don't rely on certain apps on your phone, the N1 really is a great device. The screen is gorgeous (I hated using it outside) and even without rooting it has a lot of potential. Since I rooted it and can't return it, I've decided to pass it on to my girlfriend who's still using her 1st gen iPhone. She's pretty thrilled, to say the least.
 
ViViDboarder said:
I don't know about "will always be the best"... The Droid touch screen is pretty good and we haven't seen any of the new touch screens yet.
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I would say the droid touch screen is next to the iPhones but not better. I tested the droids demo in a verizon store, definitely wasn't like the iPhones but so far better then any other touch screen besides the iPhones. I'm going to miss the iPhones TS but I'll get used to the N1's too. Still hasn't came I feel like I've been waiting all day. Supposed to be here within the next 2 hrs I'm kind of excited.

The whole multitouch problem on the n1 kind of did it.
 
lostprophet894 said:
Well much to even my surprise, I've decided to go back to my 3GS.

It really has nothing to do with the phone itself, but more with the apps available. There's really not much I use my iPhone for outside of email, todo list and checkbook. The Gmail integration on the N1 is fantastic and I really couldn't have asked for anything better but for the other two, everything I tried was just lacking.

I don't know how NONE of the to do apps in the android market support choosing which days a task will repeat on. It seems like such a basic function. And for my balance management, why can't I have categories? I don't want my checking account balances lumped in with my credit cards and savings accounts. It just doesn't make any sense.

The N1 keyboard works perfectly. I did notice that your finger presses have to be a little more precise and spaced and I never really did get used to it. The iPhone's keyboard is more enjoyable, IMO. As far as media management, I really don't understand why everybody's so negative about iTunes. It works great for me and I never did get around to putting music on the N1. The iPod on the 3GS works great and I paid good money to have the cable installed in my car. Having backups is nice too.

So really, those of you who don't rely on certain apps on your phone, the N1 really is a great device. The screen is gorgeous (I hated using it outside) and even without rooting it has a lot of potential. Since I rooted it and can't return it, I've decided to pass it on to my girlfriend who's still using her 1st gen iPhone. She's pretty thrilled, to say the least.
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So once the phone is rooted it cannot be restored and what not like the iPhone after it is jailbroken?
 
ajohnson253 said:
I would say the droid touch screen is next to the iPhones but not better. I tested the droids demo in a verizon store, definitely wasn't like the iPhones but so far better then any other touch screen besides the iPhones. I'm going to miss the iPhones TS but I'll get used to the N1's too. Still hasn't came I feel like I've been waiting all day. Supposed to be here within the next 2 hrs I'm kind of excited.

The whole multitouch problem on the n1 kind of did it.
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Haha I was dying to get my N1 too over the weekend and the day of delivery. It was really painful to say the least and since I impatient it didn't help. Let us know how you like it so far when you get it :)
 
ajohnson253 said:
So once the phone is rooted it cannot be restored and what not like the iPhone after it is jailbroken?
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You can restore it. Actually I think it bests the iPhone restore because once you make a backup (called nandroid) it makes an EXACT copy of the OS and everything else. So when you want to restore it will go back to exactly the way it was before. This way you can easily try the different ROMs available and go back and forth without any hassle. Also it takes less then 10 minutes, very fast.
 
lostprophet894 said:
Well much to even my surprise, I've decided to go back to my 3GS.

It really has nothing to do with the phone itself, but more with the apps available. There's really not much I use my iPhone for outside of email, todo list and checkbook. The Gmail integration on the N1 is fantastic and I really couldn't have asked for anything better but for the other two, everything I tried was just lacking.

I don't know how NONE of the to do apps in the android market support choosing which days a task will repeat on. It seems like such a basic function. And for my balance management, why can't I have categories? I don't want my checking account balances lumped in with my credit cards and savings accounts. It just doesn't make any sense.

The N1 keyboard works perfectly. I did notice that your finger presses have to be a little more precise and spaced and I never really did get used to it. The iPhone's keyboard is more enjoyable, IMO. As far as media management, I really don't understand why everybody's so negative about iTunes. It works great for me and I never did get around to putting music on the N1. The iPod on the 3GS works great and I paid good money to have the cable installed in my car. Having backups is nice too.

So really, those of you who don't rely on certain apps on your phone, the N1 really is a great device. The screen is gorgeous (I hated using it outside) and even without rooting it has a lot of potential. Since I rooted it and can't return it, I've decided to pass it on to my girlfriend who's still using her 1st gen iPhone. She's pretty thrilled, to say the least.
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Awww sad to see you go. Hopefully over the time those apps will be updated and you'll come back:D
 
Vandam500 said:
You can restore it. Actually I think it bests the iPhone restore because once you make a backup (called nandroid) it makes an EXACT copy of the OS and everything else. So when you want to restore it will go back to exactly the way it was before. This way you can easily try the different ROMs available and go back and forth without any hassle. Also it takes less then 10 minutes, very fast.
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It seems like the rooting process is so confusing with the N1. All of the steps for jailbreaking an iPhone are ridiculously easy, I feel retarded when it comes to figuring out how to root an N1. I've been trying to find out with all the searching I've been doing so when I get my n1 I can just root it off top.
Is backing it up a hassle? Well you said it's easy but are there step by step beginner List I can go through to do all this? :eek:
 
ajohnson253 said:
It seems like the rooting process is so confusing with the N1. All of the steps for jailbreaking an iPhone are ridiculously easy, I feel retarded when it comes to figuring out how to root an N1. I've been trying to find out with all the searching I've been doing so when I get my n1 I can just root it off top.
Is backing it up a hassle? Well you said it's easy but are there step by step beginner List I can go through to do all this? :eek:
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I like when it's difficult. :) Gives me something to do. I just got a MyBook World Edition and I have that hacked. It was actually really easy... Click a link, push a button, reboot. *sigh* oh well.
 
Vandam500 said:
You can restore it. Actually I think it bests the iPhone restore because once you make a backup (called nandroid) it makes an EXACT copy of the OS and everything else. So when you want to restore it will go back to exactly the way it was before. This way you can easily try the different ROMs available and go back and forth without any hassle. Also it takes less then 10 minutes, very fast.
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Sure, you can restore it. The nandroid backup, as you said, will be an exact copy of what you started with.

However, once your phone is rooted, there will always be the open padlock symbol on your startup screen. Because of this, you cannot return or get warranty work done on your phone.
 
Well the Nexus finally arrived, I'm going to spend some time getting to know this thing. be back soon
 
Odd, I paired mine with my ES with no issues.

tjp888 said:
I am returning my N1 :(
I am unable to get it to pair correctly with my car's bluetooth (Lexus IS).
This, unfortunately is a deal breaker. Got to have bluetooth working in the car. I'm bummed out.

I had to call HTC (not Google) to arrange the return. I have to say the HTC customer support was excellent. I got right through to a very friendly gal.
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It's a Lithium Ion battery turning it on when it isn't fully charged should be a problem. Correct?
 
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