How funny people taking other side of an argument so easily
Who was preaching on MR that pixels on camera != everything? And now the 4S has more camera pixels it's now suddenly better?
Who cares which CPU/GPU is better? If it's enough for all functionalities it's a good chip. Or is it now the time to look at benchmarks? (hint hint: what they said about Android fanboys last year)
Bigger screen with practically the same PPI, and it's inferior? Your logic
Both phones can shoot 1080p video, I wouldn't call that a 4S advantage
Don't know about battery life yet (since both of them are not available now), can't judge
So how is the 4S better again? iOS? That's a personal preference.
Better CPU and GPU will be debateable because ICS brings hardware acceleration meaning hardware and software should work better together
For sure.. Clearly Google and HTC, Samsung and whomever else will take advantage of their tight hardware/software integration much more than APPLE.
LOL.
This is one of the main reasons why the android platform always trails behind the iOS and iPhone, regardless of specs. The lack of tight integration and controls is a horrible disadvantage. They essentially work in their own worlds and hope for the best.
Apple can make software changes to maximize the hardware and hardware changes to maximize the software. Google can not do that to anywhere close to the same degree because too many people are making too much different kind of hardware. Thus it puts Android handset makers way behind Apple from the beginning.
This is a disadvantage they are likely never to overcome, this is also why you will see Android EOL in the next 3-5 years, because Google will move on to an integrated solution that can actually compete with Apple.
For sure.. Clearly Google and HTC, Samsung and whomever else will take advantage of their tight hardware/software integration much more than APPLE.
LOL.
This is one of the main reasons why the android platform always trails behind the iOS and iPhone, regardless of specs. The lack of tight integration and controls is a horrible disadvantage. They essentially work in their own worlds and hope for the best.
Apple can make software changes to maximize the hardware and hardware changes to maximize the software. Google can not do that to anywhere close to the same degree because too many people are making too much different kind of hardware. Thus it puts Android handset makers way behind Apple from the beginning.
This is a disadvantage they are likely never to overcome, this is also why you will see Android EOL in the next 3-5 years, because Google will move on to an integrated solution that can actually compete with Apple.
Sony Ericsson Xperia ArcIs there an Android phone that takes better quality photos than the iPhone 4? It just seems that most of the big Android handset makers don't care much for picture quality.
With higher resolution, better low light performance, and better sharpness compared to the (former) best smartphone camera, I'll put my money on the 4s when it comes to camera performance.
Seems with the Moto purchase Google realized that whoring out their OS to everyone results in greater market share, which means about as much as a ****-sandwich when the iPhone gets the consumer satisfaction glory and achieves the share they do with a paltry one or two models. Even the lowly 3GS has outsold a lot of newer Android models.
User Experience is all. A vertical business model done right (it isn't easy and the risks are legion) will always provide a far superior user experience compared to a horizontal business model. And User Experience is most certainly not subjective.
That was actually WSJ that reported that and BGR linked to their story.
SN: Hope they have an unlocked version. Not going to VZW.
Seems with the Moto purchase Google realized that whoring out their OS to everyone results in greater market share, which means about as much as a ****-sandwich when the iPhone gets the consumer satisfaction glory and achieves the share they do with a paltry one or two models. Even the lowly 3GS has outsold a lot of newer Android models.
User Experience is all. A vertical business model done right (it isn't easy and the risks are legion) will always provide a far superior user experience compared to a horizontal business model. And User Experience is most certainly not subjective.
It is kind of ironically funny that spec things that the android supporters always tossed out there are things they are not even better at any more... It makes it hard to be a spec whore when the specs are even worse.... Poor guys.
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Bigger, worse screen with LTE and inferior battery life.. Yeah that sounds awesome.
Too bad that does not coincide with what people actually want from their smartphones.
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The only problem is it is not better.. It was not better than the old 5MP camera... The new 4S has improved sensors. The gap between the 4S and this phone is massive for both photographs and videos.
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But it doesn't have it. That is the point. Not only do iPhones outperform the android phones in real world performance, now they outspec them as well. It is crazy. This 720P screen too.. It is still not as dense as the iPhone 4 screen which has been out for a year and a half.
Sony Ericsson Xperia Arc
Arc vs iP4 - Snapshot shootout
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rs-Z_SAFxJU
Sony were the first ones introducing back-illuminated sensors for cameraphones back in 2009.
"The most important part in a camera is the photographer."
Are you talking about Samsung's vertical integration? Because Samsung is much more vertically integrated than Apple ever will. They start with basic materials (SAMSUNG Total Petrochemicals, SAMSUNG Petrochemicals,
SAMSUNG Fine Chemicals, SAMSUNG BP Chemicals, Samsung Plastic Co. Ltd, SAMSUNG Corning Precision Glass) and go from there - to batteries (SAMSUNG SDI), lighting (SAMSUNG LED), PCB (SAMSUNG Electro-Mechanics), displays (SAMSUNG Mobile Display), all kinds of chips (SAMSUNG Electronics), mobile devices (obviously) including software (Bada, Android). It's as vertical as it gets in this World. And if User Experience is not subjective then what is?
Is there an Android phone that takes better quality photos than the iPhone 4? It just seems that most of the big Android handset makers don't care much for picture quality.
With higher resolution, better low light performance, and better sharpness compared to the (former) best smartphone camera, I'll put my money on the 4s when it comes to camera performance.
Well it is missing "software". You know, the brains.
"A computer is dumb. It only does what is told. And only does it well enough as taught".
Slapping half-baked code onto monster specs doesn't make it into amazing.
Samsung Galaxy Note kicks ass in benchmarks
Ever since the Samsung Galaxy Note was unveiled, the industry has struggled to properly categorize the device. Is it a tablet or is it a phone? is the question on the minds of everyone who sees this 5.3-inch Android device.
Whatever the Note is, its got an impressive 1.4GHz dual-core CPU joined together with a Mali-400MP GPU. Now one thing we do know is Samsungs Exynos chip is a powerhouse; not too long ago we wrote how the Samsung Galaxy S II was the most powerful device out there, second only to the iPad 2.
That said, a slew of benchmark tests on the Galaxy Note showed how much of a kick-ass device it is. In a test tailored to the CPU, both BenchmarkPi and Linpack clocked speeds nearly 20% higher than the Galaxy S II yikes.
Lastly, tests were ran on NenaMark 2 and SunSpider. On NenaMark 2, the Galaxy S II was way ahead of the bunch, but the Note came in second, but to be fair, the Galaxy Note has about 2.6 x the number of pixels than the S II. SunSpider, a system which JavaScript benchmark showed impressive results as well. After seeing all of that, its too bad that a U.S. launch is unlikely.
Verizon exclusive in the states
Suprised of only 5 megapixels camera, otherwise a BEAST of a phone..
Huge screen, 720p, all the works..
ice cream
Wrong!
And the OP's specs are wrong. 1.5 Ghz dual core
If you click on this link below, you will see it is a more official site but i will copy what it says.
http://googlenexus-4.com/
Buy Google Nexus Prime SmartPhone
The Google Nexus Prime Smartphone is rumored to be released in November of 2011. This is said to be the worlds most anticipated Android phone. Google is not looking to disappoint with giving the Google Nexus Prime the upcoming Android 4.0 (Ice Cream Sandwich). The Smartphone has a 720p resolution display called the Super AMOLED HD that is a full touch screen. No more physical buttons!!
Nexus PrimeSamsung will be creating the Google Nexus Prime and will be including a Next-generation dual core 1.5GHz Processor OMAP4460. The Nexus Prime will not have any of those annoying carrier software preloads just android 4.0. And hopefully google can find a way to keep the wireless carriers from putting restrictions on the phone like they do with the Iphone4 (not allowing to be used as a hotspot unless you pay extra).
Google will be working with more than one carrier this time around so be looking for the exclusive Google device with android 4.0 from your carrier comeOctober or around Thanksgiving November.
The Carriers that should be getting a flagship Google Android Device are:
Verizon, AT&T, T-Mobile, and Sprint.
The known specifications of the Google Nexus Prime are:
Ultra Thin
4.65-inch Super AMOLED screen
Android 4.0 (Ice Cream Sandwich)
4G LTE Radio Ready
1gb of RAM
1.5 GHz Dual Core Processor
1080p HD Video
2 and 8 mp Camera
Wifi IEEE 802.11 a/b/g/n
The Model Number for the Nexus Prime is GT-I9250
It says the word "unofficial"...
Is there an Android phone that takes better quality photos than the iPhone 4? It just seems that most of the big Android handset makers don't care much for picture quality.
With higher resolution, better low light performance, and better sharpness compared to the (former) best smartphone camera, I'll put my money on the 4s when it comes to camera performance.
It is kind of ironically funny that spec things that the android supporters always tossed out there are things they are not even better at any more... It makes it hard to be a spec whore when the specs are even worse.... Poor guys.
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Bigger, worse screen with LTE and inferior battery life.. Yeah that sounds awesome.
Too bad that does not coincide with what people actually want from their smartphones.
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The only problem is it is not better.. It was not better than the old 5MP camera... The new 4S has improved sensors. The gap between the 4S and this phone is massive for both photographs and videos.
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But it doesn't have it. That is the point. Not only do iPhones outperform the android phones in real world performance, now they outspec them as well. It is crazy. This 720P screen too.. It is still not as dense as the iPhone 4 screen which has been out for a year and a half.