Nexus Prime Specs are out!

[fertilized-egg]

From what I hear SAMOLED uses more power when displaying white than the traditional LCD display?

SAMOLED user here and I can confirm it uses more power because most web surfing, games, and apps have white background with black text on it. I even switched to the black version of the GMail client to save battery and it really does work but can't do the same with websites.

Much of the SAMOLED's power saving is its potential in the future when they use more efficient material but for now it does use significantly more power than LCD unless all you do is going through the default Android menu, which tend to be white on black background.

 

[Vegastouch]

Women have smaller hands than men, this is a biological fact. I don't know the exact percentage of women users, older statistics I have seen were close to 50/50. But it's pretty obvious that Apple are mainly going after women, they even have white versions of all three iDevices. Women don't need or want bigger screens, men do because their hands and fingers are bigger.

Yeah, i dont think im buying that.

 

[thenerdal]

SAMOLED user here and I can confirm it uses more power because most web surfing, games, and apps have white background with black text on it. I even switched to the black version of the GMail client to save battery and it really does work but can't do the same with websites.

Much of the SAMOLED's power saving is its potential in the future when they use more efficient material but for now it does use significantly more power than LCD unless all you do is going through the default Android menu, which tend to be white on black background.

Due to the lack of powered backlighting, OLEDs are supposed to be more energy efficient than regular LCDs.

 

[aztooh]

Women have smaller hands than men, this is a biological fact. I don't know the exact percentage of women users, older statistics I have seen were close to 50/50. But it's pretty obvious that Apple are mainly going after women, they even have white versions of all three iDevices. Women don't need or want bigger screens, men do because their hands and fingers are bigger.

hahaha More fine conjecture from you on the subject. Women don't want or need bigger screens? Really? Can I see the data on that?

It's a biological fact that women have smaller hands than men? You might want to word that a little different. This implies that there is not a woman out there with larger hands than any man, plain not true. For the majority, yeah, it's true....however, that's not even what I was asking for data on. You said "A large portion (maybe even the majority) of iPhone users are women". Back that claim up or quit trying to pass off random crap as facts.

So, lets see % of iPhone users who are male/female. And a poll asking women whether or not the want/need a larger screen. Option 2, quit making stuff up.

 

[Bodygard]

Samsung already beat the 4S with the SII. They don't need to do it again

Yeah?
At least in browser performance, fotos and videos the 4S is much better. See for yourself

Videos, photos in the end
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-TJxgaZD7Tk

Browser performance
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SsiBMc9o3vo

 

[fertilized-egg]

Due to the lack of powered backlighting, OLEDs are supposed to be more energy efficient than regular LCDs.

No. Current OLEDs actually use more energy if it has to light up most of the screen, like when your surfing this Macrumors website which is mostly bright white and grey. It's when you have a lot of black space OLEDs can really save energy since without backlight it can avoid lighting up those dark spots, but for most webpages and apps that's not the case.

 

[iamthedudeman]

Thats all fine and good but your saying that the Nexus Prime needs a bigger processor and isnt as good and it isnt even out yet so sorry , ....you have no valid point. However, in that article you are boasting about, it says this:

Here in the States, our Sprint 4S kept right up with another device we had handy from the same carrier: the Nexus S 4G.

AND

We tested a Sprint version of the phone and found that, with full bars on 3G, download speeds were averaging about 1Mbps down and .9Mbps up, with pings hovering around 70ms. Comparing that to a Nexus S 4G (with WiMAX disabled), also running on Sprint, we found download speeds to be quite comparable. Signal strength between the two phones was comparable as well.

Dude, the Nexus S came out late last year in Dec i believe. It isnt the upcoming Prime and your new 4S is keeping up with that one. Case closed indeed Sorry Bro but thats a bit of weak sauce there!
Did you even read the article? It is mostly compared to the iPhone 4 with a couple things compared to the Nexus S which i copied.

Im not saying the iPhone isnt fast and dont really care. Im sure it is, but it is still catching up and will be surpassed in a matter of a couple months while you all wait another year for the next one to come out. You cant keep up when you release something once a year and another company is doing it several times a year. You catch up temporarily while adding things the other guys have had for a while. Its as simple as that.

You can't be serious can you. They were comparing the speeds, network speeds of the Sprints network in a certain area. What does that have to do with the phone? Or how it performs. Nothing. You're confused. ATT 4S are having no problems, none at all.

Yes case closed. The Nexus Prime is weak sauce. I will paste a post because I am just being lazy. Left behind, I think not.

Over the past week. Siri enabled me to get all of my new text messages and emails, reply to my text messages, check my calendar, move an appointment, create an appointment including inviting someone to a meeting, check the weather, play a specific song, find where a specific friend was in the world (using Apple’s Find My Friends app), and make a few phone calls. All while not actually having my phone in my hands while driving.

Try that with your Android device. I own a Galaxy S2 and know it's limitations. So I will answer that question for you, not in a million years.

It hasn't been around for awhile. This is not voice control as in Android. Its AI.

Don't give me that Iris bull. Garbage a quick 'tacked on' response to Siri, embarrassing actually.

http://www.knowyourmobile.in/news/10..._face_off.html

compare that to this. yeah the same. :roll eyes:

Siri is a spin-out from the SRI International Artificial Intelligence Center , and is an offshoot of the DARPA-funded CALO project, described as perhaps the largest artificial-intelligence project ever launched

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siri_(software)

And no Voice Actions isn't in the same ball park, not even close. Siri is a game changer, plain and simple.

Yes face recognition is gimmicky. It allows you to open your phone, big deal. They was it allows you to do so is, but what else does it do? Thats it. How is that innovative?

Siri is not. Actually is useful. As stated in my post. I swipe my finger across the screen. How hard is that? Siri can be used from the lock screen also. Hold in the home button, wow, that is hard.

And yes Google's eco system sucks. They don't have anything to compare with Apple. I know, I have tried it and it sucks. Period.

Performance? Right now as it stands the 4S is the fastest smartphone on the block. Hardware doesn't mean squat if the OS cannot take advantage of it.

http://www.slashgear.com/iphone-4s-review-11187049/

http://www.anandtech.com/show/4951/i...pu-than-ipad-2

When you're less concerned about longevity and more concerned about outright speed, the 4S won't disappoint when compared to its predecessors. On the SunSpider 9.1 JavaScript benchmark, a good test of overall ability to render the best the web has to offer, the phone scores a 2,200ms on average. That's well lower (quicker) than the 3,700 the iPhone 4 manages and faster than any other smartphone we've tested. In fact it ranks right up there with tablets like the Galaxy Tab 10.1 (2,200), but still the iPad 2 leaves it behind with its score of 1,700.

http://www.engadget.com/2011/10/14/iphone-4s-review/

I will not even mention the camera. The optics on the 4S are better as is the MP count. Both are better, so I don't want to hear about 'you are just mentioning MP's. That argument is literally destroyed. The Prime's specs are outed, not more speculation. We know the deal here. Epic fail.

Yes the screen is bigger, yes it is just as good. Is it a advantage, depends on who likes a bigger phone and screen. I like using my iPhone one handed. Can't do the same for my Galaxy. I do like the bigger screen in some tasks, like web browsing. But the retina display is crisper and can see more clearly. So apparently so can the nexus prime.

But is bigger better?

http://www.droid-life.com/2011/05/2...x2-and-its-qhd-display-pentile-at-its-finest/

The Prime isn't out yet, but even still I don't think the 4S will be outclassed by any means. Take that 1750 battery and I will say a big "no thanks'.

Those clamoring for a bigger screen clearly don't know how Apple operates. If you want a bigger screen and that is all that matters to you buy a Android phone. If you already have one keep it and be happy.

Apple does everything for a reason, they not do add a gimmick, but useful features. The screen size will not change until they can make a bigger screen without making the phone bigger or that much bigger. They designed the screen so that the average hand can reach everywhere on the screen with one hand. Making one had use actually usable. On my Galaxy S2 with the 4.3 inch screen. That isn't happening or not easily. And I have big hands. I am fairly tall.

This article sums it up better than I ever could.

http://daringfireball.net/2011/10/th...ions_iphone_4s

http://dcurt.is/2011/10/03/3-point-5-inches/

Do I want a bigger screen, yes. Do I want a bigger phone, no. Until they can bring a bigger screen in the same phone size or similar with the same battery life or better the iPhone will not have a bigger screen. Apple cares about battery life and usability over all else. It is what makes Apple "Apple'.

They don't add a feature unless it is usable, or serves a purpose, doesn't add more hardware for the sake of adding more hardware if it isn't going to add to the user experience. 512 of Ram. Yep. Does it take away from the user experience no. Is iOS optimized to use less Ram. Yes. But why would they do that. They did it for a reason. They do everything for a reason.

http://www.appleinsider.com/articles..._concerns.html

Greed, please. They have more money than they know what to do with. They make money because they meticulously 'outthink' the competition. Are always one step ahead. Attention to the every aspect and detail of their products.

Not because they saved a few bucks on a bigger screen. That is ridiculous. Nonsense.

The same reason that iOS is optimized for the hardware. They work as one unit. That is the reason that the 4S is the fastest smartphone on the market today. The bench marks are ridiculous. Why is that? Because Apple uses their hardware efficiently, makes every use of the OS to take advantage of the hardware.

And the 3.5 screen is not small. It is big. Huge actually for a phone. Not as big as Android devices, but the iPhone is not a Android device. Nor should it be.

Apple isn't google, or Samsung, or Moto. They are different. If you cannot see that, which clearly you cannot. Why buy one? Just buy a Galaxy Nexus and be happy.

 

[itsmemuffins]

Enjoy your pentile matrix display future galaxy nexus owners:

http://www.flatpanelshd.com/news.php?subaction=showfull&id=1319022037

 

[lilo777]

Performance? Right now as it stands the 4S is the fastest smartphone on the block. Hardware doesn't mean squat if the OS cannot take advantage of it.

You are incorrect. Galaxy SII is the fastest phone. IP4S has faster GPU but it does not show in most tasks. As far as we browsing benchmarks are concerned, IPS4 does score higher in some of them but ONLY compared to Android stock browser which (in Android 3.*) does not take advantage of dual core CPU. The same tests in Mozilla or Opera browsers give big advantage to SGSII. ICS browser will do the same (once ICS is released for SGSII). The real life browsing tests (not the benchmarks) show that SGSII is faster than IP4S (except for T-Mobile model which uses Broadcom's processor rather than Samsung's own one which is used on all other SGSII versions). SGSII is also faster at loading apps. So, the end result - Apple failed to beat Samsung's 6 month old phone in performance. It looks like Apple may not be able to catch up with Samsung ever.

 

[BaldiMac]

It was my understanding the the Super AMOLED HD display on the Galaxy Nexus actually rivaled the iPhone 4/4S in pixel density. If that is the case, your point is moot.

Does anyone know the ppi of the GN display?

And Retina display is like 330 something (w/ the term being used for anything above 300 ppi). So the argument that you lose screen resolution with the bigger screen is actually no longer relevant.

My point isn't moot and is completely relevant if you actually read both paragraphs instead of cherry-picking the point that you thought that I was trying to make.

I didn't say that Apple couldn't make a larger retina display, I said that they would have to increase the screen resolution to maintain the pixel density on a larger display. Which would require third-party developers to rewrite their apps in order to maintain a pixel perfect interface.

I'm not saying that would be impossible. That is just the main reason that I don't think a larger screen is likely to come on the next new iPhone.

 

[walangij]

Smartphones have never really been about specs, but about the experience. Some want cutting edge specs and the ability to Tinker around with everything. Others desire a simple, unified ecosystem, while others want an enterprise solution. Arguing about why one is better than the other doesn't say anything about the phones, but about their users. The galaxy nexus is a fine phone with flaws just like the iPhone 4s. Specs no longer as much as they did.

 

[lilo777]

Enjoy your pentile matrix display future galaxy nexus owners:

http://www.flatpanelshd.com/news.php?subaction=showfull&id=1319022037

There is nothing wrong with pentile matrix displays. With PPI density of Galaxy Nexus display, pixel arrangement is not recognizable. Here is how Engadget described this display:

We've been clamoring for a 1,280 x 720 display on a smartphone for what feels like forever, and now that it's here on the Galaxy Nexus, we aren't about to kvetch. Indeed, the panel looks downright gorgeous, with unbeatable viewing angles, remarkably crisp text and graphics and a beautiful feel as one swipes across it. The fingerprint magnet that is a glossy overcoat is still here, but it's the only feel niggle we've found on the screen as a whole.

 

[itsmemuffins]

There is nothing wrong with pentile matrix displays. With PPI density of Galaxy Nexus display, pixel arrangement is not recognizable. Here is how Engadget described this display:

We've been clamoring for a 1,280 x 720 display on a smartphone for what feels like forever, and now that it's here on the Galaxy Nexus, we aren't about to kvetch. Indeed, the panel looks downright gorgeous, with unbeatable viewing angles, remarkably crisp text and graphics and a beautiful feel as one swipes across it. The fingerprint magnet that is a glossy overcoat is still here, but it's the only feel niggle we've found on the screen as a whole.

I'll take flatpanelhd over engadget any day

 

[k3roro]

I don't care much for the specs. I just don't really dig the fact that it's plastic again. I actually own a Nexus S and I didn't like the way the plastic felt in my hand.

 

[lilo777]

I don't care much for the specs. I just don't really dig the fact that it's plastic again. I actually own a Nexus S and I didn't like the way the plastic felt in my hand.

Is not plastic better than glass? Besides, absolute majority of iPhone users put on plastic cases on iPhone anyways. Apparently they prefer plastic

 

[Vegastouch]

You can't be serious can you. They were comparing the speeds, network speeds of the Sprints network in a certain area. What does that have to do with the phone? Or how it performs. Nothing. You're confused. ATT 4S are having no problems, none at all.

Yes, the second quote they were comparing the networks speeds but in the first one they werent.

Yes case closed. The Nexus Prime is weak sauce. I will paste a post because I am just being lazy. Left behind, I think not.

A fools quote

Over the past week. Siri enabled me to get all of my new text messages and emails, reply to my text messages, check my calendar, move an appointment, create an appointment including inviting someone to a meeting, check the weather, play a specific song, find where a specific friend was in the world (using Apple’s Find My Friends app), and make a few phone calls. All while not actually having my phone in my hands while driving. Try that with your Android device.

Congratulations. You just talked about teh ONLY new thing that Apple did for the Iphone that Google doesnt have yet. Woohoo, ...you are now almost catching up overall.....almost. But in two months, will be behind again. However, i can still do some of those things already and have been able to for a year and a half.

I own a Galaxy S2 and know it's limitations. So I will answer that question for you, not in a million years.

Its limitations are only what Siri does but it wont be for long.

It hasn't been around for awhile. This is not voice control as in Android. Its AI.

Dude i had Siri on my iPhone 2G. It is just intrigrated now and of course updated.

http://www.knowyourmobile.in/news/10..._face_off.html[/quote]

Link dont work

compare that to this. yeah the same. :roll eyes:

Yes face recognition is gimmicky. It allows you to open your phone, big deal. They was it allows you to do so is, but what else does it do? Thats it. How is that innovative?

So in other words you havent tried it and have no idea what it is capable of and yet you are saying it isnt anything special? Awesome! Im willing to bet if iPhone had it, it would be revolutionary , just like , by golly you are saying a two year old App called Siri is

And yes Google's eco system sucks. They don't have anything to compare with Apple. I know, I have tried it and it sucks. Period.

Says the fanboy. I happen to like Android better than Apples OS but thats just me and you dont see me saying it sucks. Why do i need to say that? It just isnt my preference. The car you drive may not be my preference either but it doesnt mean it sucks, ...unless you drive a Hyundai or a Kia. Then it sucks

Performance? Right now as it stands the 4S is the fastest smartphone on the block. Hardware doesn't mean squat if the OS cannot take advantage of it.


http://www.slashgear.com/iphone-4s-review-11187049/

http://www.anandtech.com/show/4951/i...pu-than-ipad-2

Tests posted here say otherwise but you know, we are talking split seconds here so who really cares? Its close enough but the biggest thing here is that the week old iPhone is just barely keeping up with a 6 month old Galaxy G2. Dont need to skim through all of your videos or article. Though i did take a quick look. BTW the 2nd link upbove this dont work, Thats two of your links that dont work.
I can find any article to support any argument i want and thats what your doing here as well but your not doing a very good job of posting links that actually work.

When you're less concerned about longevity and more concerned about outright speed, the 4S won't disappoint when compared to its predecessors. On the SunSpider 9.1 JavaScript benchmark, a good test of overall ability to render the best the web has to offer, the phone scores a 2,200ms on average. That's well lower (quicker) than the 3,700 the iPhone 4 manages and faster than any other smartphone we've tested. In fact it ranks right up there with tablets like the Galaxy Tab 10.1 (2,200), but still the iPad 2 leaves it behind with its score of 1,700.

All the above is meaningless to me and benchmarks dont mean anything either. Just bragging rights for those who dont know what they are.

I will not even mention the camera. The optics on the 4S are better as is the MP count. Both are better, so I don't want to hear about 'you are just mentioning MP's. That argument is literally destroyed. The Prime's specs are outed, not more speculation. We know the deal here. Epic fail.

Depends. Ive seen better on the ip4s and ive seen better posted for the GS2. I dont think there is a clear advantage or winner and i dont really care. Im not a photographer and if i were, i wouldnt be using my phone for my profession.

But is bigger better?

http://www.droid-life.com/2011/05/2...x2-and-its-qhd-display-pentile-at-its-finest/

For many it is so i dont need to read yet again something that is meaningless....if it even works. Didnt try that one.

The Prime isn't out yet, but even still I don't think the 4S will be outclassed by any means. Take that 1750 battery and I will say a big "no thanks'.

Again making a judgement on something you have no clue about yet. Hope your not going to law school because you would fail.

Apple does everything for a reason, they not do add a gimmick, but useful features. The screen size will not change until they can make a bigger screen without making the phone bigger or that much bigger. They designed the screen so that the average hand can reach everywhere on the screen with one hand. Making one had use actually usable. On my Galaxy S2 with the 4.3 inch screen. That isn't happening or not easily. And I have big hands. I am fairly tall.

LOL is that inside info? I guessing no. Just a fanboy defending the deciosions of the corporate decisions. As for Apple doing everything for a reason...well maybe you are right. It took then two years to give the people MMS and copy and paste. Oh wait, that was because of the outcry of its customers writing and telling them they want it. I guess that was their reason eh? Now the people want a bigger screen. You think it wont happen? Watch and learn. It will happen, probably next year. Why? Because the people want it and that is their reason. I dont care about the average hand size or being able to use one hand better or any of that crap. Thats a fanboys take on it only.



This article sums it up better than I ever could.

http://daringfireball.net/2011/10/th...ions_iphone_4s

Another link that dont work. And who is the guy writing it? Does he work for Apple? If not, it dont matter if it dont work because it is an opinion.

http://dcurt.is/2011/10/03/3-point-5-inches/

Fans opinion who says he "is a superhero". Im guessing he is some kid. Give us some concrete evidence please. Not some fans opinion trying to find logic favoring Apple for their refusal to have a bigger screen.

Do I want a bigger screen, yes. Do I want a bigger phone, no. Until they can bring a bigger screen in the same phone size or similar with the same battery life or better the iPhone will not have a bigger screen. Apple cares about battery life and usability over all else. It is what makes Apple "Apple'.

Sorry, bigger screen will require a bigger phone. But i agree, i think some Android phones are getting too big.

They don't add a feature unless it is usable, or serves a purpose, doesn't add more hardware for the sake of adding more hardware if it isn't going to add to the user experience. 512 of Ram. Yep. Does it take away from the user experience no. Is iOS optimized to use less Ram. Yes. But why would they do that. They did it for a reason. They do everything for a reason.

Oh i can think of so many rebuttles. But it would take too long. I already put holes in your last "they do everything for a reason". I mean, MMS and copy and paste were usable but they didnt add it, ...till the people were loud and clear. Abd please...your defending their decision to not have 1 GB of RAM?

OK, who here DOESNT want 1GB of RAM?

http://www.appleinsider.com/articles..._concerns.html

Another link that dont work

And the 3.5 screen is not small. It is big. Huge actually for a phone. Not as big as Android devices, but the iPhone is not a Android device. Nor should it be.

Its one of the smallest smartphone screens save for Blackberry who is on the verge of going away.

Apple isn't google, or Samsung, or Moto. They are different. If you cannot see that, which clearly you cannot. Why buy one? Just buy a Galaxy Nexus and be happy.

Who said it didnt like them or didnt know they were different? I have said many time i like Apples products. Said it in this thread. Look at my sig for cris sakes.

I just prefer the Android system because it does more for what i want and if they get a bigger screen, perhaps someday i may go back to them if Androids standard phone screen size reaches 5". Im good with 4" if they go that route. But if the AT&T merger doesnt happen then i wont go with Apple because im not leaving T-Mobile if i dont have to. Their tares are just better than the other big guys.

 

[El3ctronics]

My point isn't moot and is completely relevant if you actually read both paragraphs instead of cherry-picking the point that you thought that I was trying to make.

I didn't say that Apple couldn't make a larger retina display, I said that they would have to increase the screen resolution to maintain the pixel density on a larger display. Which would require third-party developers to rewrite their apps in order to maintain a pixel perfect interface.

I'm not saying that would be impossible. That is just the main reason that I don't think a larger screen is likely to come on the next new iPhone.

Based on this logic, apple will NEVER change the size of the screen. After 5 years, I think it's time.

 

[iamthedudeman]

You are incorrect. Galaxy SII is the fastest phone. IP4S has faster GPU but it does not show in most tasks. As far as we browsing benchmarks are concerned, IPS4 does score higher in some of them but ONLY compared to Android stock browser which (in Android 3.*) does not take advantage of dual core CPU. The same tests in Mozilla or Opera browsers give big advantage to SGSII. ICS browser will do the same (once ICS is released for SGSII). The real life browsing tests (not the benchmarks) show that SGSII is faster than IP4S (except for T-Mobile model which uses Broadcom's processor rather than Samsung's own one which is used on all other SGSII versions). SGSII is also faster at loading apps. So, the end result - Apple failed to beat Samsung's 6 month old phone in performance. It looks like Apple may not be able to catch up with Samsung ever.

Come down from fantasy land my friend.

I posted links to the contrary. Do you have any proof or benchmarks to back up your claims. Let me answer that for you, of coarse you don't.

I own the Galaxy S2 and tested it myself against my iPhone 4S. The 4S is twice as fast and that is using the Dolphin browser. Opera compress pages and I also tested both using Opera. The 4S was quicker again.

Next.

 

[Smithwicks]

Come down from fantasy land my friend.

I posted links to the contrary. Do you have any proof or benchmarks to back up your claims. Let me answer that for you, of coarse you don't.

I own the Galaxy S2 and tested it myself against my iPhone 4S. The 4S is twice as fast and that is using the Dolphin browser. Opera compress pages and I also tested both using Opera. The 4S was quicker again.

Next.

http://pocketnow.com/smartphone-news/comparison-iphone-4s-vs-samsung-galaxy-s-ii-video

 

[iamthedudeman]

Yes, the second quote they were comparing the networks speeds but in the first one they werent.



The Galaxy Tab is not the Galaxy S2. Don't get the two confused. As you doing right now.


When you're less concerned about longevity and more concerned about outright speed, the 4S won't disappoint when compared to its predecessors. On the SunSpider 9.1 JavaScript benchmark, a good test of overall ability to render the best the web has to offer, the phone scores a 2,200ms on average. That's well lower (quicker) than the 3,700 the iPhone 4 manages and faster than any other smartphone we've tested. In fact it ranks right up there with tablets like the Galaxy Tab 10.1 (2,200), but still the iPad 2 leaves it behind with its score of 1,700.


A fools quote

Who is the fool now?



Congratulations. You just talked about teh ONLY new thing that Apple did for the Iphone that Google doesnt have yet. Woohoo, ...you are now almost catching up overall.....almost. But in two months, will be behind again. However, i can still do some of those things already and have been able to for a year and a half.

yeah right. I own both phones buddy. You're preaching to the wrong crowd. I know quite well the strengths and advantages of each. And as it stands the my Galaxy S2 will not see ICS until next year. And yes IOS has more features than my Galaxy S2. And no Android has no answer to Siri. None. So who is catching up to who?

And none on the horizon unless they put together the best engineers in AI in the world and get it done in the next year. Which will never happen. It took years for Siri to be developed and that was by the government. With untold amounts of dollars spent and untold engineers in AI which were the best in the world at what they do working on the project.



Its limitations are only what Siri does but it wont be for long.

See my post above.


Dude i had Siri on my iPhone 2G. It is just intrigrated now and of course updated.

You think it's the same. Lol. I had Siri before two and still do. That Black and green icon is not the same as what Siri is now. Don't kid yourself. Come back from dream land.


Link don't work


http://www.knowyourmobile.in/news/1097910/android_iris_vs_apple_siri_the_ultimate_face_off.html




compare that to this. yeah the same. :roll eyes:



So in other words you havent tried it and have no idea what it is capable of and yet you are saying it isnt anything special? Awesome! Im willing to bet if iPhone had it, it would be revolutionary , just like , by golly you are saying a two year old App called Siri is :roll eyes

Yes it is capable of opening your phone. How is no idea of what it is capable of? Yes big deal.


Says the fanboy. I happen to like Android better than Apples OS but thats just me and you dont see me saying it sucks. Why do i need to say that? It just isnt my preference. The car you drive may not be my preference either but it doesnt mean it sucks, ...unless you drive a Hyundai or a Kia. Then it sucks

Not saying it sucks. Not nearly good enough to best the 4S. I was planning on buying the Nexus Prime to replace my Galaxy S2. The Galaxy S2 has better specs. So yes a big fail. I like both. And use both. The Galaxy is a disappointment. I will wait for the galaxy Note. How is that being a fanboy?


Tests posted here say otherwise but you know, we are talking split seconds here so who really cares? Its close enough but the biggest thing here is that the week old iPhone is just barely keeping up with a 6 month old Galaxy G2. Dont need to skim through all of your videos or article. Though i did take a quick look. BTW the 2nd link upbove this dont work, Thats two of your links that dont work.

The links work just fine except for the knowyourmobile one. You are having problems here are the links. The galaxy is slower. Way slower.

http://www.slashgear.com/iphone-4s-review-11187049/

http://www.anandtech.com/show/4951/...rks-800mhz-a5-slightly-slower-gpu-than-ipad-2

http://www.engadget.com/2011/10/14/iphone-4s-review/


Find me a site with benchmarks that support your claim. Just one. Go ahead. Stop making excuses. Right now find one.





I can find any article to support any argument i want and thats what your doing here as well but your not doing a very good job of posting links that actually work.

Nice excuse. I am posting links that are very well known. On known websites. Still waiting on these benchmarks you are talking about.




All the above is meaningless to me and benchmarks dont mean anything either. Just bragging rights for those who dont know what they are.

Really. Now you backtrack when the benchmarks don't fit your argument. I guess it doesn't help when opening webpages. Isn't what this whole thread is about, specs? Wasn't that the whole argument of all the Android fanboys including yourself? Lol.


Depends. Ive seen better on the ip4s and ive seen better posted for the GS2. I dont think there is a clear advantage or winner and i dont really care. Im not a photographer and if i were, i wouldnt be using my phone for my profession.

We are not talking about the GS2. We are talking about the Nexus Prime. You keep bringing up the GS2. About everything.





For many it is so i dont need to read yet again something that is meaningless....if it even works. Didnt try that one.



Again making a judgement on something you have no clue about yet. Hope your not going to law school because you would fail.

How about making assumptions that you have no idea about. Personal attacks when you get owned. Lol.

I am doing quite fine and would not go to law school if you paid me to go.



LOL is that inside info? I guessing no. Just a fanboy defending the deciosions of the corporate decisions. As for Apple doing everything for a reason...well maybe you are right. It took then two years to give the people MMS and copy and paste. Oh wait, that was because of the outcry of its customers writing and telling them they want it. I guess that was their reason eh? Now the people want a bigger screen. You think it wont happen? Watch and learn. It will happen, probably next year. Why? Because the people want it and that is their reason. I dont care about the average hand size or being able to use one hand better or any of that crap. Thats a fanboys take on it only.

Yes it is inside info. And yes I do know more than you about the subject of how corporations work and what they do and do not do. Any rational person reading my post can see who makes sense and who does not. Your nonsense is just that nonsense.

No it's a take on somebody who knows and works in the industry you talk so much about. You're clueless. When they did copy and paste and MMS it was the best in the industry and still is. They waited until they can do it the way they wanted. I know what I am talking about. I am a expert on the subject. I work with ATT, Verizon, Samsung, Apple, Nokia, Qualcomm, etc. I work with the major players in the industry on a daily basis.

If you doubt what I am saying. Look up my user name on this site.

I don't post much on there anymore, but over the last five years 95% of what my firm predicted came to pass, to the T. I get paid to predict the marketplace and where technology is going. So yes I do know what I am talking about. You apparently do not.

https://forums.macrumors.com/newreply.php?do=newreply&p=13685510






This article sums it up better than I ever could.



Another link that dont work. And who is the guy writing it? Does he work for Apple? If not, it dont matter if it dont work because it is an opinion.

It is a interesting take on the subject matter, doesn't work for apple but knows Apple.



Fans opinion who says he "is a superhero". Im guessing he is some kid. Give us some concrete evidence please. Not some fans opinion trying to find logic favoring Apple for their refusal to have a bigger screen.

There is no concrete evidence except what Steve Jobs said on the matter. Know one knows except Apple. Just some kid. Okay. This shows just how clueless you really are, I will leave it at that.


Sorry, bigger screen will require a bigger phone. But i agree, i think some Android phones are getting too big.

Not it will not. This is your way of thinking. If it requires a much bigger phone, Apple will not do it. Period.



Oh i can think of so many rebuttles. But it would take too long. I already put holes in your last "they do everything for a reason". I mean, MMS and copy and paste were usable but they didnt add it, ...till the people were loud and clear. Abd please...your defending their decision to not have 1 GB of RAM?

If the OS doesn't need 1GB of ram, why use it when battery life will suffer. Your rebottles are a joke. What holes did you put where again? Lol.

http://www.appleinsider.com/article...ne_4s_motivated_by_battery_life_concerns.html


OK, who here DOESNT want 1GB of RAM?



Another link that don't work


It is a problem with the forum. Not me or anyone else. You can copy and paste into a search engine, too hard for you.





Its one of the smallest smartphone screens save for Blackberry who is on the verge of going away.

Really hurting Apple with record sales. Lol.


Who said it didnt like them or didnt know they were different? I have said many time i like Apples products. Said it in this thread. Look at my sig for cris

Never said you don't like Apple products, just that you don't understand how and why Apple does things. You are literally clueless.

I just prefer the Android system because it does more for what i want and if they get a bigger screen, perhaps someday i may go back to them if Androids standard phone screen size reaches 5". Im good with 4" if they go that route. But if the AT&T merger doesnt happen then i wont go with Apple because im not leaving T-Mobile if i dont have to. Their tares are just better than the other big guys.

No one cares of if and why you like Android. I was giving you the purported reasons of why Apple does and does not do things.

 

[iamthedudeman]

http://pocketnow.com/smartphone-news/comparison-iphone-4s-vs-samsung-galaxy-s-ii-video

Are you serious?

Where are the benchmarks? I don't see any.
And all the tests were dependent on a internet connection. Did the video say what connection they were using? No they did not. It seems to me the iPhone 4S had three bars and the Samsung five?

Your going to have to do better than that my friend. The links I posted had benchmarks and the video review were on the same network against two Galaxy phones.

Which test do you think are less biased. Three different phones. Same network. The 4S won every time. All were on WiFi.

Here they are again. The 4S is faster by a large margin. Period. Where are the benchmarks, where are the unbiased video reviews or comparisons not from a website that doesn't mention the connection they are both on.

http://www.slashgear.com/iphone-4s-review-11187049/

http://www.anandtech.com/show/4951/...rks-800mhz-a5-slightly-slower-gpu-than-ipad-2

http://www.engadget.com/2011/10/14/iphone-4s-review/

Try again.

 

[thenerdal]

Are you serious?

Where are the benchmarks? I don't see any.
And all the tests were dependent on a internet connection. Did the video say what connection they were using? No they did not. It seems to me the iPhone 4S had three bars and the Samsung five?

Your going to have to do better than that my friend. The links I posted had benchmarks and the video review were on the same network against two Galaxy phones.

Which test do you think are less biased. Three different phones. Same network. The 4S won every time. All were on WiFi.

Here they are again. The 4S is faster by a large margin. Period. Where are the benchmarks, where are the unbiased video reviews or comparisons not from a website that doesn't mention the connection they are both on.

http://www.slashgear.com/iphone-4s-review-11187049/

http://www.anandtech.com/show/4951/...rks-800mhz-a5-slightly-slower-gpu-than-ipad-2

http://www.engadget.com/2011/10/14/iphone-4s-review/

Try again.

First link: Guy has Flash on, unfair comparison. If you read the comments, a lot of people were mad because it's a really unfair comparison.

Second link: Not a fair benchmark since it's comparing a phone with iOS 5 with older phones that have Gingerbread, which is an old version. We should wait until ICS comes out before comparing benchmarks.

Third link: It's a review.

 

[iamthedudeman]

First link: Guy has Flash on, unfair comparison. If you read the comments, a lot of people were mad because it's a really unfair comparison.

Second link: Not a fair benchmark since it's comparing a phone with iOS 5 with older phones that have Gingerbread, which is an old version. We should wait until ICS comes out before comparing benchmarks.

Third link: It's a review.

First link, two videos, one with flash on and flash off. It was updated. Fair as can be.

Second link. Right now the 4S is the fastest on the market. ICS may fix this to be more competitive. We don't know if that is the case. But as it stands right now the 4S is the fastest.


It is because of the OMAP4460 processor that the Galaxy Nexus will only have the PowerVR SGX540 GPU, an antiquated beast from 2007 that can actually be found underneath the hood of last year’s Nexus S, and in the Droid Bionic. The SGX540 is very weak compared to the Mali-400 GPU found in Samsung’s Exynos SoC (the one that powers the Galaxy S II ), and it’s positively snail-paced against the Apple A5′s SGX543MP2.

Third link: The review has benchmarks included. Fastest phone they ever tested. Which is why I posted the review in the first place.

 

[thenerdal]

First link, two videos, one with flash on and flash off. It was updated. Fair as can be.

Second link. Right now the 4S is the fastest on the market. ICS may fix this to be more competitive. We don't know if that is the case. But as it stands right now the 4S is the fastest.

Third link: The review has benchmarks included. Fastest phone they ever tested. Which is why I posted the review in the first place.

First link: He didn't turn it off. He just enabled it on demand, which is not completely off. He should've turned it COMPLETELY off. Also, he didn't clear out cookies.

You know what, I'm not going to take you seriously for linking that biased comparison. Now please, link me a better comparison that compares the phones that does not include benchmarks but pure side by side comparisons.

 

[BlizzardBolt]

Google and Samsung's collaboration with this phone is impressive.

Nexus Prime with ICS is interesting none the less. It should give the 4S and G2 a run for its money. It would certainly have mine had I was in the market for a new phone.