Are you saying that repeatedly having to toggle settings all the time isn't a real problem? It used to pee me off for a start. No longer need to do this with NFC tags.
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NFC...wow i want!
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Are you saying that repeatedly having to toggle settings all the time isn't a real problem? It used to pee me off for a start. No longer need to do this with NFC tags.
Reading all the replies from everyone about No Fat Chicks....err NFC.
And there's one of two things that are generalized.
Either you want it, and you feel the need to disparage anyone who doesn't.
Or
You don't want it and you feel the need to point out why no one really needs it as most of those features can already be done.
My point is that its really up to you if you want it or not. Trying to make others feel or look bad because they differ in opinion, really is quite immature.
I won't ever use it as I feel its too insecure. Probably from all the articles I've read about it being hacked.
Live and let live.
And there's one of two things that are generalized.
Either you want it, and you feel the need to disparage anyone who doesn't.
Or
You don't want it and you feel the need to point out why no one really needs it as most of those features can already be done.
My point is that its really up to you if you want it or not. Trying to make others feel or look bad because they differ in opinion, really is quite immature.
I won't ever use it as I feel its too insecure. Probably from all the articles I've read about it being hacked.
Live and let live.
"That way you don't have bluetooth all the time on, wifi is not on all the time, there is a battery benefit."
"Turning off Bluetooth and WiFi when not in use has a noticeable effect on battery life. "
"I don't want my BT on all the time because it drains the battery"
"Good luck with your inferior battery life because of an inferior user."
I'd say 80% of the reason why people toggle wifi and bluetooth is indeed for battery management.
You're looking at EXAMPLES we've given, but they can do a lot more.
You could have one in the kitchen to launch a recipe app/website, one on your running armband/gym bag/wherever to launch an exercise app, or (one of my personal favourites) one on your wall that guests can scan to see your WiFi password.
There's even an app on Android where rather than seeing your WiFi password, it just connects them to your network when they scan the tag.
When you think that each phone is unique and NFC only works when the phone is unlocked and the screen is on, you could turn it into a key. There are NFC-enabled door locks that open when you scan a tag.
haha i was about to ask the same question. He must have a very special 3gs that does all that. But I bet i know how it does it. He gets into the car and does it all manually
I had few nfc stickers when I had my nexus s 4g and I got so use to them. I had one next to my bed, one by the door and one in my car. Very convenient. People are saying it because iphone doesn't have it yet and when apple comes out with NFC it will be declared best thing since slice bread and the invention and patent will go to apple. For now apple decided that instead of letting users get nfc they will go with passbook as its their own little creation
Yeah, honestly I think the better solution there is the widgets for settings.
Which apple doesn't have either
.Personally, I don't like leaving wi-fi on cause anytime I go in a store where my phone senses wi-fi, every time I turn it on it asks me if I want to connect. But if I turn off that feature (ask to connect), anytime I want it to go to wi-fi, it's annoying to have to navigate through everything just to turn wi-fi on and off.
Honestly, Apple has very clunky solutions for dealing with wi-fi and bluetooth settings (bluetooth isn't as annoying cause I don't use it as much).
That being said, I don't miss having NFC too much. I think it would be neat but I still question if it would really be all that much easier that I'd end up using it much unless I was feeling like being amused by the niftyness.
No Im saying that my iPhone has such great battery life that I don't have any problems that I need solved. Bluetooth and WiFi are on all the time and I find no need to turn them off. They auto connect as I need them.
So how about this, As a neat freak, I do not want NFC tags all over my house and my car.
1. iPhone doesn't have great battery life.
2. I guess you enjoy the annoying pop ups saying wifi networks are available
3. NFC does a lot more than just toggle stuff.
And if I don't want them on all the time because I don't want to keep connecting to random devices and networks as I'm walking around...? It's not all *just* about the battery life.
I have a bluetooth speaker at home but I don't want to connect to that every time I'm in the house. I just want to connect to it when I listen to music.
I can keep both settings on all day and I'll still have adequate battery life when I get home. Doesn't mean I want to use battery willy-nilly. Batteries have a finite number of cycles.
Yes or it won't be there.
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Well then I say you have the right phone for you. I'm glad someone makes that for you. But it's not for me. The iPhone is.
Apple hasn't always implemented things that work perfectly the first time (hello MobileMe), but I would rather a company wait and be all-in when implementing something than push a nascent technology out to customers and set it up for failure. Apple knows that the competition has already adopted NFC and yet decided not to include it in iphone 5. That doesn't mean Apple will not implement NFC in the future when it makes sense from a business perspective.
Will Apple fanboys do a 180 it if the 5S comes with NFC? Sure. Will it be justified? Probably, given Apple's history of making products that 'just work' predictably and practically for the end user, and across its huge global user base
Here's an article that IMO is fairly balanced: http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9231257/iPhone_5_Why_no_NFC_
*I'm an android user, never owned an iphone FWIW*
Will Apple fanboys do a 180 it if the 5S comes with NFC? Sure. Will it be justified? Probably, given Apple's history of making products that 'just work' predictably and practically for the end user, and across its huge global user base
Here's an article that IMO is fairly balanced: http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9231257/iPhone_5_Why_no_NFC_
*I'm an android user, never owned an iphone FWIW*
Its so sad that some people's definition of "cool" or "useful" is entirely dependent on whether or not Apple tells them to like it through an overly dramatic video.
Just because Apple held off this generation doesn't mean the NFC tech isn't awesome or worth discussing and a lot of the scenarios for NFC are user created.
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Then don't use them. Nobody is forcing you to.
There are solutions though, you could put them behind pictures in picture frames or something.
I have a tag that I carry around in my wallet and I can scan it through the wallet. (yes I'm a geek
)1. It has great batter life for me.
2. I turned off the pop up as they made it possible to do.
3. I don't care. It does not do anything I want to do. Most people will agree with me on that.
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Then don't use them. Nobody is forcing you to.
There are solutions though, you could put them behind pictures in picture frames or something.
I have a tag that I carry around in my wallet and I can scan it through the wallet. (yes I'm a geek
Yes this is the problem. You are a geek (so am I by the way) so you want to build a system to do really cool things. Most people want to live their life, they don't care about really cool things. As I have gone about making my living in the industry for the last many years I have had to learn the difference. That's why the poster above is correct. To each his own.
Are we that lazy that we need a new type of technology just so we dont have to go through 4 steps that would take less than 5 seconds.
At this point in time Im not interested in NFC. I bet 90% of current iPhone users dont even know what it is. Thats probably why it isnt included.
It's just kinda frustrating that a lot of Apple fans disregard something as something they don't want until Apple implements it.
The difference I see between Android users and iPhone users is that Android users would say "I wish that was in my phone" whereas iPhone users would say they don't need it, it's useless, right up until Apple adds it, and then suddenly it's the best thing since sliced bread.. Apple are geniuses for coming up with something so innovative, etc etc.
This happened with MMS. People used to say email sufficed in lieu of MMS, then when Apple added MMS people posted about how useful it was!
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It's like what you said earlier:
"If they do I'll say great, because they will do it to offer a solution to a real problem. That's why I don't think they will."
That "real problem" still exists NOW whether Apple adds NFC support or not, so why would you only find it useful after Apple adds it?
LOL I typed MobileMe and Siri but deleted it for fear of angering the fanbase too much
But it's not a fair comparison to NFC. Who knows, Siri could ultimately be programmed to do some of the things a tag would. You setup a voice command 'Siri, it's bedtime' and associate it with a series of functions. It will turn off alerts, set the alarm, launch bedtime stories and say 'Sleep tight, don't let the bed bugs bite'...or something of that sort.1. Not everyone is you.
2. So leaving wifi on is annoying so you have to turn off another feature. Gotcha.
3. You don't care about NFC, yet you opened a thread about NFC and continue to post in a thread about NFC. Yeah, you really don't care. Until Apple tells you to care.
Oh NO...I gave Apple Hell for that. MMS IS USEFULL. It should have been there from the start. I've been giving them hell for not having bluetooth MAP, we have it in iOS 6.
IF Apple finds a real use for most iPhone users for NFC we will have it too, if not then we won't.
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1. Not everyone is you.
2. So leaving wifi on is annoying so you have to turn off another feature. Gotcha.
3. You don't care about NFC, yet you opened a thread about NFC and continue to post in a thread about NFC. Yeah, you really don't care. Until Apple tells you to care.
1. This is why there is not only one phone.
2. Choice is not a gotcha.
3. I'm interested in technology. Even tech I see no need for today. Because there could be a use in the future and I want to know about it. Apple does not tell me anything. I was working in this industry before Apple came to it.
I don't get it. WiFi uses much less battery than 3G/4G. You'd want to be connected to WiFi as much as possible.
There is some truth to this, but it is because people trust Apple. Take for example LTE. People can claim that Apple is late to the game, or is "catching up", but it was because Apple felt comfortable enough with the technology in terms of battery consumption, size of the chips, and network availability that they can put it in their phones. Apple wants nothing but a great end user experience, and they don't want it to conflict with other functions or features. Never has Apple wanted to rush new technology out to the public just because it was new.
NFC is the same way. Until this technology is up to the point where it can honestly improve someone's life, be secure, and be easy to use then it won't be present in their products.
Going back to my point, Apple fans do disregard something before Apple comes out with it, but not because they are pretending it doesn't exist, but because they trust Apple to implement it correctly the first time.