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There is some truth to this, but it is because people trust Apple. Take for example LTE. People can claim that Apple is late to the game, or is "catching up", but it was because Apple felt comfortable enough with the technology in terms of battery consumption, size of the chips, and network availability that they can put it in their phones. Apple wants nothing but a gat end user experience, and they don't want it to conflict with other functions or features. Never has Apple wanted to rush new technology out to the public just because it was new.

NFC is the same way. Until this technology is up to the point where it can honestly improve someone's life, be secure, and be easy to use then it won't be present in their products.

Going back to my point, Apple fans do disregard something before Apple comes out with it, but not because they are pretending it doesn't exist, but because they trust Apple to implement it correctly the first time.

Totally agree.
 
Doesn't make much sense. I'm automatically connected to wifi whenever I get home and to Bluetooth whenever I get in the car. No NFC needed. Are Androids really that dumb?

They are OK, I am not so sure about iPhone fans. The only way your phone "automatically" connects to to WiFi and BT is if you keep both radios ON all the time which is not really a smart thing if you care about battery life. But NFC tags an do more than that. They can switch many phone modes. For example, thy can mute the phone for the night if you place a tag on your night stand.
 
Oh NO...I gave Apple Hell for that. MMS IS USEFULL. It should have been there from the start. I've been giving them hell for not having bluetooth MAP, we have it in iOS 6.

IF Apple finds a real use for most iPhone users for NFC we will have it too, if not then we won't.

NFC tags are limited only by the user's creativity. I think everyone can find a use for NFC tags - even you! What about what I posted earlier (giving guests access to your Wifi network)? That is useful. I appreciate it's not NFC itself that accomplishes this, but a combination of NFC and software on the phone. However... an extremely short-range communication technology is needed IMO. If these stickers used Bluetooth then somebody in the next house could probably access it.. but not NFC.

This is why NFC would be pretty safe to use a key for your front door, and to make a payment in stores too.

There is some truth to this, but it is because people trust Apple. Take for example LTE. People can claim that Apple is late to the game, or is "catching up", but it was because Apple felt comfortable enough with the technology in terms of battery consumption, size of the chips, and network availability that they can put it in their phones. Apple wants nothing but a gat end user experience, and they don't want it to conflict with other functions or features. Never has Apple wanted to rush new technology out to the public just because it was new.

NFC is the same way. Until this technology is up to the point where it can honestly improve someone's life, be secure, and be easy to use then it won't be present in their products.

Going back to my point, Apple fans do disregard something before Apple comes out with it, but not because they are pretending it doesn't exist, but because they trust Apple to implement it correctly the first time.

Apple has made its' own mistakes though - MobileMe, Ping, thinking that only web apps would suffice for the iPhone (what a HUMDINGER that was!)

People should make up their own minds. They don't need Apple to decide for them.
 
Apple should add it when there's a reason to add it not because they can add it.

If Passbook becomes a hit they can continue their path to NFC and "iWallet".
 
There is some truth to this, but it is because people trust Apple. Take for example LTE. People can claim that Apple is late to the game, or is "catching up", but it was because Apple felt comfortable enough with the technology in terms of battery consumption, size of the chips, and network availability that they can put it in their phones. Apple wants nothing but a great end user experience, and they don't want it to conflict with other functions or features. Never has Apple wanted to rush new technology out to the public just because it was new.

NFC is the same way. Until this technology is up to the point where it can honestly improve someone's life, be secure, and be easy to use then it won't be present in their products.

Going back to my point, Apple fans do disregard something before Apple comes out with it, but not because they are pretending it doesn't exist, but because they trust Apple to implement it correctly the first time.

That's just a wishful thinking on your part (as well as an attempt to rationalize the fact that your own phone is technically inferior). Apple did not do LTE for so long because they wanted to maximize their profits. LTE being deployed only by Verizon and Apple sticking with one phone model strategy, it made sense for them. In the mean time Verizon customers enjoyed great LTE service using Samsung and Motorola phones with some of these phones having better battery life than iPhone 4S.
 
They are OK, I am not so sure about iPhone fans. The only way your phone "automatically" connects to to WiFi and BT is if you keep both radios ON all the time which is not really a smart thing if you care about battery life. But NFC tags an do more than that. They can switch many phone modes. For example, thy can mute the phone for the night if you place a tag on your night stand.

Why? My iPhone lasts me through the entire day without recharging even with both on.
 
Are iPhone users really that dumb to leave wifi and Bluetooth constantly on?

Why would you not? For me, I'm constantly connecting and using both throughout my day.. That was the dumbest question I've read on here in at least a month..
 
Why? My iPhone lasts me through the entire day without recharging even with both on.

Mine too but that's just us. Some people use their phones a lot more and they have to be more careful about battery charge. They can do it easily with NFC capable phones or the hard iPhone way :p
 
1. Not everyone is you.

2. So leaving wifi on is annoying so you have to turn off another feature. Gotcha.

3. You don't care about NFC, yet you opened a thread about NFC and continue to post in a thread about NFC. Yeah, you really don't care. Until Apple tells you to care. :rolleyes:

What is your end game here? You already called people dumb for leaving WiFi and Bluetooth on, which I refuted in my post saying it works for me and my battery life is acceptable to me, so what's next? NFC is useful, ok, cool. The iPhone doesn't have it. Is the lack of NFC going to cause me to switch back to Android? No, not as of now, but I wish they would have included it for the future. Well, they didn't, and it's sure to be on a future iPhone, which I will most likely buy.
 
Why would you not? For me, I'm constantly connecting and using both throughout my day.. That was the dumbest question I've read on here in at least a month..

Many people work in places where there is no WiFi and probably even fewer people use BT headsets. So, there is nothing dumb about this question.
 
Mine too but that's just us. Some people use their phones a lot more and they have to be more careful about battery charge. They can do it easily with NFC capable phones or the hard iPhone way :p

For those who don't charge their phones overnight, people use NFC tags to mute the phone and disable auto-sync. You could do that on the iPhone too if they supported it - enable silent mode and disable push notifications so as to conserve battery life throughout the night.
 
Doesn't make much sense. I'm automatically connected to wifi whenever I get home and to Bluetooth whenever I get in the car. No NFC needed. Are Androids really that dumb?

It's called saving battery life. Any option you have switched on (wifi or bluetooth), even when not in use is using battery. By automatically turning one off and the other on when needed will save a LOT of battery life.

Still too many security issues for me to want it just yet.
 
Many people work in places where there is no WiFi and probably even fewer people use BT headsets. So, there is nothing dumb about this question.

Still lasts me through the entire day with it on.

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For those who don't charge their phones overnight, people use NFC tags to mute the phone and disable auto-sync. You could do that on the iPhone too if they supported it - enable silent mode and disable push notifications so as to conserve battery life throughout the night.

Why would you not charge it throughout the night?
 
There is some truth to this, but it is because people trust Apple. Take for example LTE. People can claim that Apple is late to the game, or is "catching up", but it was because Apple felt comfortable enough with the technology in terms of battery consumption, size of the chips, and network availability that they can put it in their phones. Apple wants nothing but a great end user experience, and they don't want it to conflict with other functions or features. Never has Apple wanted to rush new technology out to the public just because it was new.

NFC is the same way. Until this technology is up to the point where it can honestly improve someone's life, be secure, and be easy to use then it won't be present in their products.

Going back to my point, Apple fans do disregard something before Apple comes out with it, but not because they are pretending it doesn't exist, but because they trust Apple to implement it correctly the first time.

To truly innovate, you have to the first in your field to employ new technology. Apple hasn't done this in many years. They just sit back and let others like Samsung and HTC introduce new tech and features, see what works and then add it to their iPhone a year later.
 
Mark these words...when it comes to the iPhone it will be the best thing on the planet.

Chances are when and if Apple implements NFC, they'll do it right and give us something more useful than just S-Beam and making payments at certain stores.

Don't underestimate the power of the retail and banking lobbies when it comes to mobile payments. The US has yet to implement chip-and-pin credit card systems, and has rather antiquated payment processing systems compared to the rest of the developed world. In China 0 checks are written, and it isn't much more in Europe. Two big reasons why NFC and "alternative" payment systems have yet to catch on are that the retailers and banks are resistant to the change.

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To truly innovate, you have to the first in your field to employ new technology. Apple hasn't done this in many years. They just sit back and let others like Samsung and HTC introduce new tech and features, see what works and then add it to their iPhone a year later.

There are different forms of innovation. Henry Ford was an innovator, even though Daimler and Benz invented the car. Ford found a way to make it affordable.
 
Mine too but that's just us. Some people use their phones a lot more and they have to be more careful about battery charge. They can do it easily with NFC capable phones or the hard iPhone way :p

And leaving NFC constantly on will not drain the battery how?

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My thoughts exactly, but many people don't.

They'd rather charge throughout the day or the iPhone must have such a great battery life that they'd last a few days without recharging.
 
Still lasts me through the entire day with it on.

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Why would you not charge it throughout the night?

Because not everyone is like you. Personally, I prefer to keep wifi and bluetooth off while not using it since companies and malls are now starting to track people whom are leaving wifi on.
 
Are iPhone users really that dumb to leave wifi and Bluetooth constantly on?

Are you really that dumb that you turn it on and off all day? The phone makes it through the day just fine with them on. There's rarely a need to turn them off.
 
And leaving NFC constantly on will not drain the battery how?

I already addressed this when I responded to you earlier in the thread:

NFC uses very little battery for these reasons: -

1. It's not transmitting anything unless the screen is switched on and the phone is unlocked.
2. It only transmits over a distance of about 2cm.

I tried turning NFC off for a while and didn't notice ANY change in my battery life whatsoever.
 
They'd rather charge throughout the day or the iPhone must have such a great battery life that they'd last a few days without recharging.

Why do I need to last a few days without charging? Do you live in the wilderness? I charge my phone at night while I sleep as I assume most people would.

Edit: just noticed we are in agreement.
 
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