Everything moving does not have to end up blurred. The camera can calculate how objects on the screen are moving, and adjust the pixels accordingly. The same way an optical mouse figures out which way the mouse is moving.
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Night Mode and New Cameras in iPhone 11 and 11 Pro Shown Off
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Everything moving does not have to end up blurred. The camera can calculate how objects on the screen are moving, and adjust the pixels accordingly. The same way an optical mouse figures out which way the mouse is moving.
Not a shocker. Apple calculated this move, being this is the ‘Pro’ camera. They obviously want a demographic who wants this feature, would have to upgrade. Tactical marketing 101.
I feel like they do this every year.
"This year's model has the best camera ever on an iPhone. Look at this (great picture taken on latest model) compared to (bad picture taken on previous model)."
Then the next year when they release the next model, they'll show some picture that makes this year's model look like it takes terrible unusable pictures.
"This year's model has the best camera ever on an iPhone. Look at this (great picture taken on latest model) compared to (bad picture taken on previous model)."
Then the next year when they release the next model, they'll show some picture that makes this year's model look like it takes terrible unusable pictures.
I wonder why no 3X Optical Zoom. 2X isn't quite enough when I'm (very frequently) taking shots during sporting events. I was hoping not to need to continue carrying a dedicated camera so often. Digital Zoom (cropping) is not acceptable.
This, and, lack of reverse charging means I'll probably be skipping this generation iPhone...unfortunately.
This, and, lack of reverse charging means I'll probably be skipping this generation iPhone...unfortunately.
That guy walking across the street won’t be sharp if the shutter speed is too low. I’m only voicing skepticism based on the moving subject captured perfectly, based on my experience in photography and in computational photography - not to mention the source being dubious. I could be wrong! Looking forward to testing by the usual websites in the coming weeks.
Edit - I fully expect Apple’s Night Mode to be at least as good as Google’s Night Sight, I’m just skeptical that this particular photo was taken with a prerelease iPhone 11 Pro using Night Mode. She could just be trolling for attention in Twitter.
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Doesn’t night mode require the A13 chip?
So you think low light pictures on the current iPhones is good?
So...which phone manufacturers update more than once a year?
I believe so. However, That member was indicating the XS _could_ have supported this feature if they wanted to last year, Apple rationed this knowingly it’s a selling point to upgrade.
A bit skeptical if it'll be useful for me.
If I'm shooting in a bar or on the street at night, I'm not looking for an exposure looking like it was captured in sunlight. If it's subtle and captures the ambiance my eyes see, in a variety of situations, that would be great.
We'll see.
If I'm shooting in a bar or on the street at night, I'm not looking for an exposure looking like it was captured in sunlight. If it's subtle and captures the ambiance my eyes see, in a variety of situations, that would be great.
We'll see.
I would like to see a picture with a street light cuz those f up any pictures on any iPhone I have ever used thus far
When I upgraded I noticed that even the Xs does better in low light than the X with regards to video. I think native camera performance would be better on the new phones even without the extra computational effort of a dedicated night video mode. There will likely need to be another big jump in computational power in order for these devices to pull in enough frames (at different exposures) in order for it to compile and produce stable video in a special low light mode.
Regardless, I was quite impressed with the footage I was able to get from my Xs during a Massive Attack concert last weekend, so really hoping this new device raises the bar again!
Ha, sure. Just, two lenses tends to help with computational image processing. Wondering if that plays a role in making digital zoom in any way clearer. Guessing you don’t know the answer to that
Ha, sure. Just, two lenses tends to help with computational image processing. Wondering if that plays a role in making digital zoom in any way clearer. Guessing you don’t know the answer to that
By definition no optics can improve digital zoom. Digital zoom is what you do to go beyond the limits of the optics.
All you have a right to ask for? Have you never heard of a software update? Yeesh.
Not everyone is always after Great Photography. They are just taking photos of their life. Sometimes that's in the dark. Anything that can make that look better is a plus in my book.
So you’re confident in asserting that it is by definition a fact that two lenses, both acquiring light and data, can’t be computationally combined in a way that would improve the results of a digitally zoomed in image? Sounds like you are but I just want to be sure.
By that measure, 4-5 years ago, whipping out a phone and taking a few grainy pictures at Buffalo Wild Wings qualifies as "great photography." I'm sure you threw those pictures out right? But as you say, I don't know much about photography.
Sure. But the software/hardware are optimized to work together. For someone to think that software can be created to completely make up for older lenses is dreaming. If image quality is that important to an XS owner, he/she should be planning to turn in or sell on the secondary market and upgrade.
This right here is what “entitlement” means.
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It’s not a slow shutter speed - it’s lots of individual images that can be combined. That’s the point. Unlike film-cameras and DSLRs, you can simulate slow exposure by taking lots of individual fast exposures, compensating for motion, and adding the light up over each shot. And you can simultaneously use one of the other camera sensors to do a slow exposure to provide additional information, etc. So if something (say a leg) is moving from frame to frame, the phone can realize those are all the same object, and compensate accordingly.
Yes but if you’re trying to focus on the part where it’s black, it also locks exposure to that area too. Then you simply slide up to expose more of that area. You won’t get it to look good but you will not see black either especially when there is a light source nearby.
All of these before and after night shots from all phone makers are being manipulated in ways that nobody uses their cameras just to prove a point.
I’d be thrilled if Apple is doing what you’re talking about. Night Mode with no blurring from moving subjects? Google sure didn’t achieve that with Night Sight. Also I think you’re nuts, but I mean that affectionately from one nerd to another <3