Nilay Patel on CNBC talking about the Apple Watch

[Piggie]

It's like.

One person. If someone doesn't see a smartwatch as useful then why take their opinion with anything other than a grain of salt?

His review complained that he got a text and and it was distracting him from a meeting. Then turn off your watch, the same way you would a phone, if you're in a meeting?

He started out this segment complaining how you needed to charge it? They stated you need to charge a phone at night so what's the big deal pretty much.

I respect the guy, and he usually does nice work, but I feel he doesn't like the idea of a smartwatch in general. Just my impression on listening to him over the last few weeks

There does seem to be some notification issue that's not done right yet from what I've seen.

You want VERY quick ways of customising Notification settings, all day long.

Chat to your girlfriend, then in a bar, then in the office, then in a taxi etc etc.

You want to be able to set up........ Like you have/had with phones. banks of scenarios for notifications you can in a second flip between.

 

[matrix07]

Besides that. The whole "7-score" makes much more sense now since he said that he didnt agree with the higher Android wear scores on the site.

So he now admit that his site review is **** and inconsistent?
Didn't many here proclaim that The Verge review is always good and balanced we should listen to this guy? Sound to me like Mr. Patel himself didn't get memo from our forum members.

 

[papa8706]

There does seem to be some notification issue that's not done right yet from what I've seen.

You want VERY quick ways of customising Notification settings, all day long.

Chat to your girlfriend, then in a bar, then in the office, then in a taxi etc etc.

You want to be able to set up........ Like you have/had with phones. banks of scenarios for notifications you can in a second flip between.

When it comes to the iPhone I pretty much use silent, do not disturb, or airplane mode. I'm not gonna beat the Apple watch up on their notification settings. That's an area they can improve, and likely will, but everyone's preferences are different so it's not simple.

Some will love the watch, some will hate it, and I think Nilay's arguments aren't just Apple related, but smartwatch in general. No disrespect, but to each their own

 

[Sheza]

And I thought The Verge offered a dumbed-down approach to technology reporting. When I think Verge I think hipsters with beards that talk about how bright the screen is and how they can definitely feel the difference in weight between the new and old models, wooooow.

And then this show? To be fair, the anchors don't seem to know jack about technology anyway so I can forgive them for making endless misstatements about the hardware but wow oh wow do they have to dumb down technology to their viewers. Unbelievable. It makes Verge look nerdy.

 

[VSMacOne]

The guys is quite honestly going out of his way to complain about every possible shortcoming of the apple watch. But seriously why even mention another cable? It's really that much trouble to throw it in your bag? It doesn't really take up that much space.
He just seems to be annoyed by the whole show, almost like he's too good for it.
I don't think he hosts are being rude to him, I think he's the one being rude. People are generally expressing excitement over the Apple Watch and he just shoots down everything positive they are trying to say.
There are some 1st gen things about Apple Watch, but come one, it's an exciting piece of tech. And especially tech reporters have to be able to put their bias aside.

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And I thought .
And then this show? To be fair, the anchors don't seem to know jack about technology anyway so I can forgive them for making endless misstatements about the hardware but wow oh wow do they have to dumb down technology to their viewers. Unbelievable. It makes Verge look nerdy.

I don't think they were dumbing it down. People that I've spoken with that aren't necessarily techy have expressed excitement about the watch and you have to admit apple products have a broader appeal than others, so I think the Apple watch will really open people's eyes to the smart watch.
Patel is purposefully trying to counter every positive thing the hosts were trying to say abut the apple watch with a negative spin.

 

[Primus84]

Have to say I really don't care at all for Nilay Patel's review or appearance on TV. He really is trying to find reasons to be negative about it.

I also cannot see the virtue in scoring products if products within the same category are scored by different people - see the higher scores given for Android Wear devices.

 

[MH01]

Why are people bashing Nilay, I'll be honest, I've never heard of the guy before though reading his review on he verge and just that video, he is being honest, unlike the iPhone , or iPad, the Apple watch has pros/cons. While apple has made the best smartwatch out these , no comparison, the wearable markert is still a big question mark. If you cannot see any cons with the Apple watch , bless your devotion and faith, but those to blindly follow..... Are no better than the haters .

For me nilay comes across as someone who is an apple fan, but he is not going to damage his reputation as a tech journalist by sayin the Apple watch is something it's not, he will look like an idiot, come the 24th and people start. Experiencing the issues he has flagged.

To all the people on here bashing Nilay, i hope you actually buy his product, and would love to hear your opinion say a week after the 24, or whenever you get your preorder. If you Are not buying the watch , stop trolling the guy.

 

[Piggie]

You see, I instantly hate any review that starts off with the reviewer fawning over the device, and coming out with remarks like.

"This is a amazingly beautiful design"

Errr, sorry, that's your personal opinion based upon things that have no relation to what I think. don't tell me what it nice or not to look at as I have different views to you and I shall decide that.

Tell me what what it does, the things it's good at, the things it's poor at, facts about it, but don't try and tell me that I should like the look or design just because you do.

 

[MH01]

Have to say I really don't care at all for Nilay Patel's review or appearance on TV. He really is trying to find reasons to be negative about it.

I also cannot see the virtue in scoring products if products within the same category are scored by different people - see the higher scores given for Android Wear devices.

Are you also going to debate the 8.4 given to the new MacBook ? Or the 9.0 to the rmbp?

You do realize a major factor of the score was the laggines / speed? Also the battery is behind the competiton now. Or would you demand a higher score cause it's an apple device? Mine should be arriving on the 24th, and I am going to compare it to the moto360, I frankly don't care what score it got, a seven to me says, worth getting, some drawbacks , I used one in store on Friday, and had some reservations.

 

[Primus84]

Are you also going to debate the 8.4 given to the new MacBook ? Or the 9.0 to the rmbp?

You do realize a major factor of the score was the laggines / speed? Also the battery is behind the competiton now. Or would you demand a higher score cause it's an apple device? Mine should be arriving on the 24th, and I am going to compare it to the moto360, I frankly don't care what score it got, a seven to me says, worth getting, some drawbacks , I used one in store on Friday, and had some reservations.

I'm not demanding anything, I'm pointing out that Nilay has given this a score, the Moto 360 has a much higher score which Nilay has said he disagreed with. Surely the point of a score is to be able to compare products within a category, therefore the score has become irrelevant since different people are deciding upon them using different criteria.

 

[MH01]

You see, I instantly hate any review that starts off with the reviewer fawning over the device, and coming out with remarks like.

"This is a amazingly beautiful design"

Errr, sorry, that's your personal opinion based upon things that have no relation to what I think. don't tell me what it nice or not to look at as I have different views to you and I shall decide that.

Tell me what what it does, the things it's good at, the things it's poor at, facts about it, but don't try and tell me that I should like the look or design just because you do.

On this forum of all forums on the Internet, that is one of the most critical criteria

the look and design of a Luxury item are critical, this assessment it spot on and he had to make a judgement . Not his fault , it's apple that changed the goal posts by saying they created a "luxury" accessory

 

[papa8706]

Why are people bashing Nilay, I'll be honest, I've never heard of the guy before though reading his review on he verge and just that video, he is being honest, unlike the iPhone , or iPad, the Apple watch has pros/cons. While apple has made the best smartwatch out these , no comparison, the wearable markert is still a big question mark. If you cannot see any cons with the Apple watch , bless your devotion and faith, but those to blindly follow..... Are no better than the haters .

For me nilay comes across as someone who is an apple fan, but he is not going to damage his reputation as a tech journalist by sayin the Apple watch is something it's not, he will look like an idiot, come the 24th and people start. Experiencing the issues he has flagged.

To all the people on here bashing Nilay, i hope you actually buy his product, and would love to hear your opinion say a week after the 24, or whenever you get your preorder. If you Are not buying the watch , stop trolling the guy.

I respect his work but this instance just seems very subjective. I don't think he agrees with the need/use of a smartwatch in general. I have no problem with negative reviews but he goes out of his way with points like "it need's another charger cable". After seeing his first review where he complained about getting an Instagram notification in a meeting, I questioned his stance. That isn't the Apple Watch's fault, that's the users fault for what apps they choose to want notifications to

 

[Piggie]

On this forum of all forums on the Internet, that is one of the most critical criteria

the look and design of a Luxury item are critical, this assessment it spot on and he had to make a judgement . Not his fault , it's apple that changed the goal posts by saying they created a "luxury" accessory

To me.

One is worthwhile facts, the other is a worthless opinion.

It's like me saying this stunning gorgeous Moto360 that set's now standards in how a smartwatch should look.

That MIGHT be MY opinion, but then that does not mean my opinion on the looks is worth anything.

The problem with this is that, this aspect is very and I mean VERY biased.

Without any shadow of a doubt, if the Apple watch has been made by Samsung, the second it was show off, it would be torn apart on these forums as some ugly thick fat design that lacked any imagination.

 

[JT2002TJ]

I respect his opinion, and think his points here, and his original review are valid. I know this first gen is FAR from perfect, hearing experiences like his is what will keep me from being disappointed (I know what to expect).

To be fair about the reporters "knob" comment, it was a direct response to his "forced touching" joke about touching your brother. It was simply an attempt to have a back and forth.

Believe it or not, it isn't easy to riff with someone you just met for the first time, while trying to learn about a new product, AND keep ratings.

 

[GrimmsGirl]

She did not say the Fitbit is phenomenal technology, she simply stated that having the Fiitbit alert her when her phone rings is phenomenal. Big difference.

She didn't even say that. She said it's "tremendous functionality for me". Even bigger difference.

 

[MH01]

To me.

One is worthwhile facts, the other is a worthless opinion.

It's like me saying this stunning gorgeous Moto360 that set's now standards in how a smartwatch should look.

That MIGHT be MY opinion, but then that does not mean my opinion on the looks is worth anything.

The problem with this is that, this aspect is very and I mean VERY biased.

Without any shadow of a doubt, if the Apple watch has been made by Samsung, the second it was show off, it would be torn apart on these forums as some ugly thick fat design that lacked any imagination.

Agreed. Though you come across as someone that looks at the tech aspect of s device . His review catered for you. Had he not catered to the fans that love shiny apple products and said it as a great design, image the hate the would be Getting in here.

You are correct. I swear people on here have automated responses determined by the logo on a device

I am really looking forward to using the watch, so I can make my assessment .

 

[NAYo2002]

Last anchor was annoying with the knob joke, but they kind of owned him on the charging point/taking off the watch at night. He really didn't have an intelligent response to defend his criticism that you have to charge at night, and the best he could come up with is that watches normally last for years? Hahaha. What does that even mean? He's now comparing how often you have to charge the Apple Watch to how often you charge a traditional watch? lol.

Hey Nilay, you ever hear of an automatic watch that needs to be wound? That needs a special apparatus to move it around when not in use? The Apple Watch sounds a lot more convenient than that.

And I wish he would stop wearing that studded cuff EVERYWHERE he goes. I get it. It's a fashion statement. You are trying to fit into "that" category. But you don't need to wear it 24/7. Mind the occasion.

Came here to say this, but it looks like you already said all the points I wanted to make about this interview. Thanks bud

 

[MH01]

I respect his work but this instance just seems very subjective. I don't think he agrees with the need/use of a smartwatch in general. I have no problem with negative reviews but he goes out of his way with points like "it need's another charger cable". After seeing his first review where he complained about getting an Instagram notification in a meeting, I questioned his stance. That isn't the Apple Watch's fault, that's the users fault for what apps they choose to want notifications to

Do you get a choice to decide which notifications you can turn on/off? Just wondering if it's that granular at launch. To be honest I take all these reviews with a pinch of salt, once users start getting them, I read MR for actual user feedback.

 

[NAYo2002]

Do you get a choice to decide which notifications you can turn on/off? Just wondering if it's that granular at launch. To be honest I take all these reviews with a pinch of salt, once users start getting them, I read MR for actual user feedback.

Yes. One of the reporters (WSJ guy I think) pointed out this fact and made an argument that the AW is probably not great for tech novices. This point I can respect and agree with. As much as I'm excited about the AW, I don't think I would get it if I didn't have choice in which notification I see.

This is my problem with Nilay's review. He runs a tech website and didn't figure this out? Or, he just wanted to be a jerk about it and present a one sided argument. He could've put it in Do Not Disturb mode for meetings or make it so that he's only getting notifications for messages/calls.

EDIT: It was actually NYT

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/09/t...t-only-after-a-steep-learning-curve.html?_r=1

 

[MH01]

Last anchor was annoying with the knob joke, but they kind of owned him on the charging point/taking off the watch at night. He really didn't have an intelligent response to defend his criticism that you have to charge at night, and the best he could come up with is that watches normally last for years? Hahaha. What does that even mean? He's now comparing how often you have to charge the Apple Watch to how often you charge a traditional watch? lol.

Hey Nilay, you ever hear of an automatic watch that needs to be wound? That needs a special apparatus to move it around when not in use? The Apple Watch sounds a lot more convenient than that.

And I wish he would stop wearing that studded cuff EVERYWHERE he goes. I get it. It's a fashion statement. You are trying to fit into "that" category. But you don't need to wear it 24/7. Mind the occasion.

His responce was spot on. There are many watches out there, the automatic ones tend to be above the Apple watch price point, and will have 24hr-xx amount power reserve, where you do not have to wear them for that long to keep time. In line with apple pricing will be battery operated watches that will last for years.

Now given I can take either one of these watches off anywhere in the house and put them on a table/desk/sink, or not even remove them.... For years.

Explain how it's more conviently having to remove the Apple watch nightly and have it connected to a charger in the same place in your house. What happens when you go away for a business trip or to a friends house, you need to remember the USB cable, how on earth if taking a cable and a charger and needing to find a place with a power socket more confident than doing nothing.....?? It's not like I can use the same lightning cable for multiple devices, this is a new cable. Had this unit used current wireless charging it would be more convient, but no, it's a custom job, enjoying buying a few for convence.

Some people will not care , they are used to charging , some may find it annoying . It's not more convient in my opinion to charge yet another device, nightly.

 

[Piggie]

Agreed. Though you come across as someone that looks at the tech aspect of s device . His review catered for you. Had he not catered to the fans that love shiny apple products and said it as a great design, image the hate the would be Getting in here.

You are correct. I swear people on here have automated responses determined by the logo on a device

I am really looking forward to using the watch, so I can make my assessment .

Oh, don't get me wrong, I love things that look amazing.
However function has to come first.

It's why I may go into a computer store, look at the small Apple display area and sigh to myself "such a shame" and move on.

I'd buy one in a split second, but I'm not getting something home that's worse than I have simply because it may look a bit nicer.
End of the day I'm looking at the screen, whats on it, and how well things move.

 

[MH01]

Oh, don't get me wrong, I love things that look amazing.
However function has to come first.

It's why I may go into a computer store, look at the small Apple display area and sigh to myself "such a shame" and move on.

I'd buy one in a split second, but I'm not getting something home that's worse than I have simply because it may look a bit nicer.
End of the day I'm looking at the screen, whats on it, and how well things move.

I completely agree with that. Hence still not sold on the watch and new MacBook. Have to use both to come to a conclusion.

 

[NAYo2002]

Some people will not care , they are used to charging , some may find it annoying . It's not more convient in my opinion to charge yet another device, nightly.

I agree with you there. With everything in life though, there are trade offs. I have a Fitbit Charge right now and it's kind of a pain even having to charge it about every 4 days. In a weird way, it may be better to charge it every night so it becomes part of my routine. I don't do it of course it tells me I'm low on battery since it may shorten the life of the battery.

The point the reporter was making about call notification on the Fitbit is very valid. It's nice to know who is calling without reaching out to your phone to decide whether you want the interruption. If the Fitbit did messages as well, I may have waited for the AW2. In some way, my experience with the Fitbit confirmed my decision to get the AW even with all its limitations.

 

[Appl3FTW]

I thought the interview went pretty well... Lighten up people.

 

[i0Nic]

The female anchor really summed up why a lot of general people will find the Apple Watch really attractive - it does the fitness stuff, it buzzes you if you have a call or message, and it looks pretty. Much prettier than any wrist worn fitness device before it. A LOT of people wear fitbits, especially wealthier yuppies in big cities who are the same target market as the apple watch.

Also, the anchors owned Nilay with having to take off the watch to charge it. You take off your watch to go to sleep anyway, so it's not a big deal as much as Nilay seems to think.

I think Nilay and a lot of tech reviewers don't get it. He's worn pebbles and moto360s for a while, most people haven't experienced having notifications on your wrists before. It's a fantastic experience, and the Apple watch does it in a far better package than anything before it.