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Nilay Patel on CNBC talking about the Apple Watch

bbeagle said:
This is the Verge's big win here - somehow people believe that the Apple Watch is laggy.

The Apple Watch OS is fluid and there is no lag. The only lag you will get is when using 3rd party apps, and this is because of Apple's decision to handle all the 3rd party app processing on the iPhone, and the iPhone tells the watch what to do over bluetooth. It has nothing to do with the speed of the Watch OS processor, it really has to do with Apple's initial concern over developers writing apps which drain the Watch's battery.

So place your 'concern' over the battery, not the processor or GUI.
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I'll wait to the 24th to make that judgement. A number of reviews hinted at lag, or slow responses , even when lifting the watch , and waiting for the screen to turn on. The units in store were demo units, not retail versions, so yet again they did not give a true indication. Sorry but you do not have proof that there is no lag, I think you want it to be awesome, but frankly we need to see how it performs once we recieve ours. Saying its the 3rd party apps that have lag, my iphone would suck if non Apple apps were lagging . Fundementally apple produced a device with a very poor battery resulting consequences? So maybe the score given by some reviewers is justified.
 
tresmith said:
Why invite and ask a tech expert to give his opinion on a gadget only to disagree and act like you don't care? He knows more than you. It's his profession.

"Technology has never been about whether or not people actually need it. It's always been about whether or not we want it."

lol omg how ignorant can you be?

Technology and invention has always been about solving a problem or fulfilling a need. remember the saying..."necessity is the mother of invention".

Some people in this thread like the anchors on the show let their personal feelings get in the way of listening to Patel objectively. It's the reason I stopped watching CNBC and watch Bloomberg for my financial news.
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Let me rephrase what I said since you are unable to read between the lines. The majority of tech isn't bought because people need it. It's bought because people want it. Tech reviewers don't do anything but add dramatization and help build story lines.

Dude was being too critical. That's the bottom line.

His complaint about "another thing to plug in".....really?!?! How else will you charge a technological device?! Even a wireless mat has a chord.

Not lasting all day?.........Not a big deal. Even if it was, you'd get over it.

The watch is nice looking and it does some really cool stuff. It ain't rocket science.
 
tresmith said:
you really don't believe he couldn't turn off notifications do you?
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Of course not. But he made a big deal about notifications being an issue and even staged a scene showing it.

He could've easily pointed out the customization or Do Not Disturb option you could use in this situation but chose not to do it. In other words, he chased to not be a tech expert to support his negative opinion.

That's sort of my point, his review was clearly biased. WSJ review was negative too but I could respect it.
 
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NAYo2002 said:
Of course not. But he made a big deal about notifications being an issue and even staged a scene showing it. That's sort of my point, his review was clearly biased. WSJ review was negative too but I could respect it.
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This reminds me of Apple's short little video of someone trying to pay by credit card when they announced Pay. It was overly dramatic and not the least bit realistic. Same here. Patel could have made a point about hoping for more granular controls for certain notifications without being overly dramatic.

EDIT: and just as I flip over to CNBC they have Patel on AGAIN, this time talking about estimated Watch sales. So he's their go-to guy whenever they discuss the Watch now? :rolleyes:
 
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watched the video the guy was so negative, made me hate him and want the watch more. i like when the lady says " i charge my phone at night whats the big deal to charger the watch" "i take it off at night anyways".
he comeback was now you have another cable and something else to take care of. LOL he sounded dumb.

he should have just have pros and cons and moved along
 
MH01 said:
How is that active campaign to discredit the guy going ? That 7/10 hurt that much? Given people have not even used the retail version yet.
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It's his twitter feed. He chose what goes on there. Unless it's hacked, it's not an active campaign.
 
MH01 said:
How is that active campaign to discredit the guy going ? That 7/10 hurt that much? Given people have not even used the retail version yet.
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I think he's discrediting himself with his childish meltdown on Twitter.
 
Rogifan said:
I think he's discrediting himself with his childish meltdown on Twitter.
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Do you need to post it here? You keep having jabs at him , his only doing his job , even had a go at his wrist collar etc... Would you be bothering had he not written that review. Picking on an individual based on a review, is also childish behaviour . A number of people are doing it on MR. Yeah I am sticking up for him, and the mods might want to consider if they will continue to allow this bashing . And I don't even know who this bloke is, but he does not deserve to be public enemy number one on MR cause of a balanced review. I will judge on the 24th how right or wrong he was.
 
I really can't stand this guy

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MH01 said:
Do you need to post it here? You keep having jabs at him , his only doing his job , even had a go at his wrist collar etc... Would you be bothering had he not written that review. Picking on an individual based on a review, is also childish behaviour . A number of people are doing it on MR. Yeah I am sticking up for him, and the mods might want to consider if they will continue to allow this bashing . And I don't even know who this bloke is, but he does not deserve to be public enemy number one on MR cause of a balanced review. I will judge on the 24th how right or wrong he was.
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Balanced?? Lol he set up a two min thing to show how annoying notifications are. TURN THEM OFF DUDE. misleading as hell
 
I was looking at his outburst. He's racist too I guess, no need to say white old man. Why bring race into it. Twitter is killing him too
 
Gooberton said:
I was looking at his outburst. He's racist too I guess, no need to say white old man. Why bring race into it. Twitter is killing him too
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Patel isn't doing himself any favors right now. Take the high road instead of name calling. And how could he not expect people to comment on his spiked bracelet when he said the milanese loop would look "ridiculous" on him. He was just opening himself up to this ribbing with that comment.
 
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JT2002TJ said:
A "knob" is a British nickname for a mans part...
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Ah... Kind of inappropriate. On the other hand he was the one who started with the inappropriate sexual jokes

I think nilay is the wrong guy for these TV appearances. He wants to come across as serious yet wears that weird bracelet. The anchors wanted to know what it does and how it fares against the competition. Nilay starts with a philosophical phrase "the amount of utility you need to invest equals the amount you get out". What are TV users who know nothing about this watch gonna do with that?

If you are on tv you gotta know it is a Game. Better play with it or leave.
 
MH01 said:
Do you need to post it here? You keep having jabs at him , his only doing his job , even had a go at his wrist collar etc... Would you be bothering had he not written that review. Picking on an individual based on a review, is also childish behaviour . A number of people are doing it on MR. Yeah I am sticking up for him, and the mods might want to consider if they will continue to allow this bashing . And I don't even know who this bloke is, but he does not deserve to be public enemy number one on MR cause of a balanced review. I will judge on the 24th how right or wrong he was.
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If you think that was a balanced review, or even a 'review' other than a bashing of Apple, you're sadly mistaken.

The 7/10 rating is fine - nothing about that irks me. He could have given a 4/10 rating, and there wouldn't be a hatred of him..

It's his bashing of notifications, and that dumb video of him in a bar blaming notifications. That has no point of being in a review of a particular watch OR smart phone. If he wants to talk about that, make that its own article. There is nothing particular about notification craziness with the Apple Watch. The Apple Watch is actually there to HELP, and he acts like its the worst culprit. Completely intentional to slam the Apple Watch, when the claim is ridiculous.

The girl in the interview says notifications on the watch are great when my phone is in my purse, and he completely dismisses this and keeps parroting that they're awful. He does not have any objectivity. He should give pros and cons, which he doesn't, all made up cons.

Most of the other reviews are more bad than good, and we're not all ganging up on those reviewers, because they were more honest. The Verge was intentionally misguided.
 
Rogifan said:
Wow Patel going into meltdown on Twitter because he can't handle a bit of ribbing from Jean Louis Gassée.

http://www.reddit.com/r/apple/comme..._is_having_a_twitter_meltdown_after/?sort=old
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If anybody has any doubts about the level of professionalism at verge this should jus about do it. Patel can't handle a valid criticism. He got called out for a crappy review that only focused on the negatives, because click-bait, and couldn't defend it without turning into a jerk. There's s reason I stopped reading the verge months ago!
 
VSMacOne said:
If anybody has any doubts about the level of professionalism at verge this should jus about do it. Patel can't handle a valid criticism. He got called out for a crappy review that only focused on the negatives, because click-bait, and couldn't defend it without turning into a jerk. There's s reason I stopped reading the verge months ago!
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Some of his tweets have been very childish and unprofessional. And he is getting called out for it on Twitter. There's nothing Gassée wrote on his blog that warranted Patel calling him and old white man and a "jack_".
 
Wiesenlooser said:
Ah... Kind of inappropriate. On the other hand he was the one who started with the inappropriate sexual jokes
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He did start it, and they just tried to have a back and forth, and get it away from the potentially incestual (incest) joke he said about touching your brother.

It is difficult to have a back and forth on live tv, I think they did a good job.

I do not mind Patel's comments on the watch, he is reviewing a product through the eyes of the average user, not a tech guru. It is likely true that it will be over complicated when compared to other apple products, that don't compromise product size for ease of use.
 
JT2002TJ said:
he is reviewing a product through the eyes of the average user, not a tech guru.
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See, I don't agree with that. He reviews the Watch from the perspective of a tech guy who's had a smartwatch before and was expecting an iPhone on his wrist. He faults Apple for his own expectations that no other smartwatch manufacturer has been able to meet. So he's basically saying this is the best alternative over all other smartwatches but don't buy because it doesn't make toast. You get my drift.
 
VSMacOne said:
See, I don't agree with that. He reviews the Watch from the perspective of a tech guy who's had a smartwatch before and was expecting an iPhone on his wrist. He faults Apple for his own expectations that no other smartwatch manufacturer has been able to meet. So he's basically saying this is the best alternative over all other smartwatches but don't buy because it doesn't make toast. You get my drift.
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I saw his review as a unique review of a new product. Bringing up points that people new to smart watches will say. 1st, battery and charging are issues (it will require planning your timing), 2nd it is complicated (when compared to other apple devices). This is what people who are new and not techie like we are will say. I think he is providing a good service, people will still buy it, but they will have lowered their expectations. They wont expect it to make toast when they buy it.
 
MultiMediaWill said:
"It's definitely another usb cable" 1:38

tooool
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Are you saying it is not USB on the other side?
Are you saying it requires a whole different dedicated power brick instead of using a standard 2amp USB brick?

I don't know the answer to the above as I have no interest in the watch at this stage, however depending on the answer, someone is a tool for sure, but not necessarily Patel.

EDIT: I just checked and... it is USB. Doh...
 
Maybe it's just me but I have a hard time taking a lot of the review from Nilay for 1) how can you criticize the looks and style of something when the majority of the time I see him, he wears a studded leather bracelet... 2) he was talking about the fitness designs of the watch but it looked like it was the first time he was on a treadmill in years? Im all about having an open mind but with his position, twitter rantings over the years and general link bait that the verge has become I look at his review as a lesson on how to present information visually and that's about it.
 
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