No 4K video recording in iPhone 6!

[ScubaCinci]

Most people don't have TV's or monitors that can display full 4k. Editing 4k video takes a lot of processing power and a ton of storage. In all, this makes it attractive a small subset of the population. Why would Apple make the phone more expensive to include this when most people wouldn't ever use it?

 

[applesith]

Yes, and I am waiting for apple to include a bluray player accessory for the iPhone before I buy.

 

[zone23]

By reading some of the responses I'm going to say MOST of you have not seen the 4k recording and playback on the LG G3. If you had you would just be agreeing with the OP. Now with that said yes unless you have a 4k tv you can only view the video on the phone. I'm going to tell you it IS amazing.

 

[roxics]

My apologies but are there devices that can play 4K videos among the general populace yet?

Yes. Computers do now, so does the new PS4 and Xbox One and 4K blu-ray is coming Christmas 2015.

That said, even if there weren't devices to play it back now, that is no excuse not to start shooting 4K right now or even yesterday if you owned a Note 3 of Galaxy S5. You want to record your precious memories in the highest resolution you can get. Once that time is over, you can't get it back. Even if it took 20 years to get 4K TVs and playback devices, we would still have 20 years of content waiting for them when they do. That could be stuff like your childs first steps or a video of your grandmother before she passes away. So you're going to artificially limit yourself to recording 1080p just beause there aren't enough 4K TVs saturated in the market yet? Talk about short term planning.

I'm not saying "you" specifically Stridemat. I'm using a generic "you."

Shooting 4K on a smartphone won't give you real 4K. It will give you the resolution of 4K but not the quality.

This is subjective to a certian degree. I could tell you that all your 1080p cameras can't do the full quality of HD because you're too cheap to spend $40,000 on an Arri Amira to get the best 1080p you can get.

People that want to do 4K video on a sub-1 cm thick phone really need to read up on the old mega-pixel saga.

4K is 8.3MP. People aren't complaining about the resolution of that 8MP chip already in the iPhone for the last three generations. Why do you suddenly assume that using that exact same resolution for video would be bad now? If it's not an issue for stills it's not an issue for video.

 

[akhilleus]

4K is a load of garbage. Resolution doesn't mean jack and especially not coming from a phone camera. If I had a true 4K screen or even the desire to display things at that ridiculously sharp resolution, I sure as crap wouldn't want some shaky footage from a phone to play on it. If you care so much about 4K, get a real camera.

 

[HarryWild]

I don't thing there is any consumer player that has 4K resolution in it! PCs can be equipped with 4K but the cost is around $2,000 for the 4K monitor - $24" size and update the graphic card -$500.

There is really no need for 4K video unless you are in the medical field.

 

[stridemat]

Yes. Computers do now, so does the new PS4 and Xbox One and 4K blu-ray is coming Christmas 2015.

That said, even if there weren't devices to play it back now, that is no excuse not to start shooting 4K right now or even yesterday if you owned a Note 3 of Galaxy S5. You want to record your precious memories in the highest resolution you can get. Once that time is over, you can't get it back. Even if it took 20 years to get 4K TVs and playback devices, we would still have 20 years of content waiting for them when they do. That could be stuff like your childs first steps or a video of your grandmother before she passes away. So you're going to artificially limit yourself to recording 1080p just beause there aren't enough 4K TVs saturated in the market yet? Talk about short term planning.

I'm not saying "you" specifically Stridemat. I'm using a generic "you."

Thanks for the polite post. I am at least a little bit persuaded with the child foot steps things. However, for Joe Public are they even going to know the difference? I mean really know the difference?

 

[roxics]

I don't thing there is any consumer player that has 4K resolution in it! PCs can be equipped with 4K but the cost is around $2,000 for the 4K monitor - $24" size and update the graphic card -$500.

There is really no need for 4K video unless you are in the medical field.

Read my last reply.

Also there are 4K monitors for $600 now and TVs for around the same price.

 

[fastfinger]

Shooting 4k is really great for a few reasons. You have a 4x optical zoom equivalent if you render to 1080 , every frame of the video is 8mb so useful if you want stills from video. Also when editing reducing to 1080 gives you much sharper video. You can also stabilize shakey video without loosing quality. You can pan within an image witch is cool especially for timelapse.
4k is a very useful feature

 

[roxics]

Thanks for the polite post. I am at least a little bit persuaded with the child foot steps things. However, for Joe Public are they even going to know the difference? I mean really know the difference?

You got me there, the answer is maybe. But then the average Joe is fine with DVD quality standard definiton when it comes down to it. But starting with 4K will produce sharper better looking 1080p and standard definition. So they are bound to see some difference even if viewing on todays TVs.

Shooting 4k is really great for a few reasons. You have a 4x optical zoom equivalent if you render to 1080 , every frame of the video is 8mb so useful if you want stills from video. Also when editing reducing to 1080 gives you much sharper video. You can also stabilize shakey video without loosing quality. You can pan within an image witch is cool especially for timelapse.
4k is a very useful feature

Oh don't worry, once Apple finally includes 4K these naysayers will use all of these reasons to justify it. Reasons that are all perfectly valid right now for Android devices that have 4K recording, but iPhone users won't admit that. Instead they'll bash it until Apple does it. Just like bigger screens, Intel CPUs on macs, etc.

 

[Nebrie]

4k is cool, but let's not kid ourselves. The phones listed can only record for a few minutes at a time with long wait times as the phone cools back down because 4k generates such an enormous amount of heat - and that's WITH liquid cooling (in a phone!!). The tech crowd is ok with these limitations, but the general public won't be. The latest and greatest $2500 Sony camera can't record 4k (in-body) for this very reason.

So, it's not that Apple doesn't want to do 4k, it's just stupid for them to do so right now. When faced with getting something out early or waiting to get it right, Apple tends to skew to the latter.

 

[Brittany246]

Yeah, I wish there was 4k video recording on the iphone 6 so I can upload 4k videos of my cat to youtube.

 

[fastfinger]

4k is cool, but let's not kid ourselves. The phones listed can only record for a few minutes at a time with long wait times as the phone cools back down because 4k generates such an enormous amount of heat - and that's WITH liquid cooling (in a phone!!). The tech crowd is ok with these limitations, but the general public won't be. The latest and greatest $2500 Sony camera can't record 4k (in-body) for this very reason.

So, it's not that Apple doesn't want to do 4k, it's just stupid for them to do so right now. When faced with getting something out early or waiting to get it right, Apple tends to skew to the latter.

That isn't true, I shoot and edit 4k all the time, i record in camera with a Panasonic Gh4. Sony also has in camera 4k recording on a few cameras, at least one does 4k 60fps. No heat issues...i imagine the 5 minute limit is to preserve storage space. The big sensor Sony can't because the sensor size

 

[DVDxR]

I don't thing there is any consumer player that has 4K resolution in it! PCs can be equipped with 4K but the cost is around $2,000 for the 4K monitor - $24" size and update the graphic card -$500.

There is really no need for 4K video unless you are in the medical field.

Actually you can get good 4K 28" computer monitors for around $600 now. Dell and Samsung both have models in that range (get the Samsung if you are interested in one, the Dell is only 30Hz at 4K). As long as you don't need crazy accurate color calibration, like someone doing professional graphic design might require, they are a perfectly fine monitors.

I own a 4K 28" and I can tell you that the Samsung 4K clips look pretty good. Well, as long as nothing is moving at least. Once motion faster than a slow walk is introduced the video quality falls apart in to a blurry mess. This is viewing a mp4 direct from the device, not the youtube 4K crap. Compared to a dedicated 4K video camera clip they look awful.

For myself, even owning a 4K monitor I have zero interest in shooting 4K off of a phone. They just do not have the power to do it correctly right now.

edit: Wanted to add that pretty much any modern video card can push 4K video. It's gaming at 4K that kills the video cards, even the super high end ones.

 

[cynics]

Most of these post are incredibly naive. It's obvious people don't know what they are talking about when it comes to 4K recording (regardless if you have a 4K display or not). Why people post and say "I don't see the point..." blows my mind, why post and specifically say you don't know what you are talking about then continue on posting?

Also I thought Apple product owners were premiere consumers that made all sorts of money and bought Apple products knowing they are paying more for premium products? I've seen some of you guys say that. Why do you all have such outdated TV's?

 

[oplix]

This is a side effect of the public manipulation of Android phone companies. They load their phones with useless features and then people like OP come complaining that these features aren't available even though 99.9% of people don't care.

As a side note, you have absolutely no perspective on how useless 4k technology is and how nobody wants to deal with hyper inflated file sizes caused by these pointless technologies.

 

[roland.g]

The buffer time on streaming recorded HD on an iPhone to an Apple TV is bad enough. And I can't imagine the file sizes on 4K.

No thanks.

 

[Nebrie]

That isn't true, I shoot and edit 4k all the time, i record in camera with a Panasonic Gh4. Sony also has in camera 4k recording on a few cameras, at least one does 4k 60fps. No heat issues...i imagine the 5 minute limit is to preserve storage space. The big sensor Sony can't because the sensor size

The GH4 has no heat issues because it is a giant camera that is about the same size as the A7 despite the tiny sensor. It's got giant heat sinks - something that the A7 and iPhone have no room for. If you asked the public to choose between more battery life or more heat sink for 4k, 4k would lose by a mile.

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Most of these post are incredibly naive. It's obvious people don't know what they are talking about when it comes to 4K recording (regardless if you have a 4K display or not). Why people post and say "I don't see the point..." blows my mind, why post and specifically say you don't know what you are talking about then continue on posting?

Also I thought Apple product owners were premiere consumers that made all sorts of money and bought Apple products knowing they are paying more for premium products? I've seen some of you guys say that. Why do you all have such outdated TV's?

I don't see the point in 4k *at it's current technological condition*. When phones can record 4k for 30 continuous minutes without overheating or making huge internal space sacrifices, I'll support it. Until then, I'd rather see the extra heat sink space used for extra battery.

 

[Rockies]

I'll take great quality 1080p over average to low quality 4k.

Never heard of low quality 4K.

 

[cynics]

The buffer time on streaming recorded HD on an iPhone to an Apple TV is bad enough. And I can't imagine the file sizes on 4K.



No thanks.

The tech is available. Apple just needs to implement it. H.265, buffering problem solved.

Ok next on the agenda, global warming.

 

[nooaah]

70m 4k panels sold worldwide as of the start of the year. Worldwide! And per the article, most are in China and the tv picture quality is lower than he better 1080p panels despite the higher resolution. I just dropped 3 grand on a 3k tv. The better 4k in the States push $8,000. Where is the market? This is typical android spec padding and typical yearly whining about Apple not cramming every feature possible into the phone without regard to quality and design.

http://fortune.com/2014/03/05/whos-leading-the-pack-in-4k-tv-sales-china/

 

[Rockies]

The only reason Sony and Samsung Phones have 4K video is because they are trying to get the consumers to also buy one of there 4K televisions. They are trying to push consumers to buy a product that really nobody needs at the moment. 4K will likely become mainstream in 2-5 years, but most consumers just upgraded to a 1080P tv within the past 5 years and are not going to dish out another $2K to upgrade.

 

[JayIsAwesome]

My computer isn't 4K, my TV isn't 4K, my tablet isn't 4k, my Xbox isn't 4K, my blu-ray player isn't 4K...what sense does it make to have it on a phone, the lowest item on the media consumption totem pole? None, IMO.

Until DirecTV and Netflix starts broadcasting every HD channel/video currently available, in 4K, I don't care about it nor do I want to hear about it..especially on a phone.

I kinda agree with this. And this also the reason why I haven't gotten a 4k tv. When directv starts getting 4k channels and 4k content becomes more widely available, then I'll get one. Same thing I did for my current HDTV. I waited until it became more of the standard before getting my flat screen

 

[itjw]

iPhone STILL doesn't have flux capacitor #MAD

If we're just listing things that would be nice if the iPhone had (but that nearly no one would use and would increase the cost of the phone) we could do that all day.

I wish it had a 7 day fuel cell battery. THAT would be more useful to 99% of people than 4K recording.

I could go on, but seriously... no one was even asking for 4K (besides a handful of nerds). Did anyone really expect it?

 

[GoCubsGo]

By reading some of the responses I'm going to say MOST of you have not seen the 4k recording and playback on the LG G3. If you had you would just be agreeing with the OP. Now with that said yes unless you have a 4k tv you can only view the video on the phone. I'm going to tell you it IS amazing.

I have and I will continue to disagree with the OP. Amazing or not the iPhone doesn't have it so carry on and buy something that does if you need it so bad.