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All I know is I have been on with Verizon and Apple for about 7 hours working on my phone and my moms. We both have 5g with all the bars. We are only getting 4G LTE speeds. It’s so frustrating. Verizon put a trouble ticket in and APPLE said it’s a known issue. The phone itself is blazing but the Internet speed is not 5g. Hopefully they will get to the root of this issue so:)
I might take a ride in nyc tomorrow to one of the UWB towers and see how it works over there.
 
All I know is I have been on with Verizon and Apple for about 7 hours working on my phone and my moms. We both have 5g with all the bars. We are only getting 4G LTE speeds. It’s so frustrating. Verizon put a trouble ticket in and APPLE said it’s a known issue. The phone itself is blazing but the Internet speed is not 5g. Hopefully they will get to the root of this issue so:)
I might take a ride in nyc tomorrow to one of the UWB towers and see how it works over there.

If ur getting 60mb and it’s suppose to be 70/75mb. Not sure if that’s such a huge problem to be super mad at. But hey you’re paying for a certain service so I get it.

But you have to understand they just had millions of new5G customers hit their towers and it’s not even fully built out yet. So this will happen
 
I thought 5G‘s big advantage (besides faster speeds) was super low ping and latency. So far all the speed tests I see show similar pings to LTE. My provider (Koodo in Canada) doesn’t support 5G yet, but its parent company (Telus) does. Was going to switch, but there’s no point. I did a test earlier today on my new 12 Pro and got 160/30. I peaked once at 170 with my old 6S Plus, but that was in an office building with repeaters all over each floors. not going to work anytime soon to test there again with the 12.

I got to say, we in Canada, pay some of the highest rates but our networks are quite good compared to other places I’ve been to around the world.
 
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Mine says 5g and I live in a bigger city(kansas City) and my speed is below 10!! My lte is at best 20-25. I think at this point Verizon severely undelivered and I had to call to get it activated and the rep was seeing the speeds and said the phone was defective! I said then my last 4 phones have been defective because the highest I have ever received was 25 and that was before the towers got log jammed. Happy with the phone, not happy that my speeds are junk!
 
So I guess 2 bars of Verizon LTE is better than 4 bars of Verizon "5G" ?? And yes, 5G on, not 5G auto.

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I was really surprised Apple spent so much time on their 5G commercial. I live in a large city and don’t even get great LTE. I’ve had both Sprint and ATT and they both suck. I figured 5G would be ready by the iPhone 13.

It’s not fun to hear that the experience is so bad.
 
There is something definitely wrong with Verizon 5G network. When I force the phone to always 5G, my speeds drop dramatically. When I force it to LTE only, I get much faster speeds.
 

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I’m having trouble getting 5g to display on Verizon at all. I’m using the eSIM. No physical SIM in the tray. No 5G for me. Verizon says I’m on a compatible plan.
 
My guess is it’s iPhone launch day and all of the 5G towers are congested doing speed tests. That coupled with the fact that there are still fewer 5G cell sites than LTE is causing a crunch. The majority of people are on LTE and will be for some time so they have to maintain a large LTE site density for the foreseeable future. There is only so much space on each tower. Curious to see what Apple/Verizon says once they look into it, however.
 
My guess is it’s iPhone launch day and all of the 5G towers are congested doing speed tests. That coupled with the fact that there are still fewer 5G cell sites than LTE is causing a crunch. The majority of people are on LTE and will be for some time so they have to maintain a large LTE site density for the foreseeable future. There is only so much space on each tower. Curious to see what Apple/Verizon says once they look into it, however.
I'm wondering that even though I see 4 bars with 5G, I'm thinking it's really for a closer LTE tower, and that when I force 5G, its going to a tower further away, and thus the lower speeds. So bars may not mean anything other than that the signal strength of the closest tower.
 
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FWIW I just pulled 250/50 on LTE from a Verizon tower on an iPhone XS. I think realistically “sub6” 5G will have a hard time beating those speeds without ideal signal/network/backhaul.
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I'm wondering that even though I see 4 bars with 5G, I'm thinking it's really for a closer LTE tower, and that when I force 5G, its going to a tower further away, and thus the lower speeds. So bars may not mean anything other than that the signal strength of the closest tower.

Interesting theory... 🤷🏻‍♂️
 
Have y’all not been reading any reviews of real world 5G speeds over the last year? None of you have defective units. Speeds are all over the place, sometimes slower than LTE. This is all normal.
 
Ok so, same with me. Im sort of lost here. Does yours always show 5Ge or does it switch to 5G?

There's no '5Ge' in my area. It's just 5G and then it switches to LTE in some areas of the city. It's just slow. I got 1mbps at one point.
 
There's no '5Ge' in my area. It's just 5G and then it switches to LTE in some areas of the city. It's just slow. I got 1mbps at one point.
Me too! I got like 4 or 5mbps most of the time around me. I was thinking. That can’t be true? That was slower than my LTE Iphone 11.
 
5G should be a lot faster than LTE, your network is shortchanging you if the speeds aren't any better and you're sure you're in a genuine 5G cell area.

Depends on a lot of factors. How much frequency is allocated for 5G in your area. The speed of the backend by the tower. Just because 5G > 4G doesn't mean its faster if its not configured correctly.
 
My guess is it’s iPhone launch day and all of the 5G towers are congested doing speed tests. That coupled with the fact that there are still fewer 5G cell sites than LTE is causing a crunch. The majority of people are on LTE and will be for some time so they have to maintain a large LTE site density for the foreseeable future. There is only so much space on each tower. Curious to see what Apple/Verizon says once they look into it, however.

A major part of what 5G offers is significant reduction in congestion, so I would be dismayed to hear that a few thousand people per area would be able to overload the 5G towers to the point where the speeds are lower than LTE. I suspect Verizon rushed their sub-6 5G rollout to meet demand for iPhones. Amazing that Apple decided to go full on for 5G this year instead of waiting another year. I’d much rather have ProMotion displays over 5G at the moment.
 
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Have y’all not been reading any reviews of real world 5G speeds over the last year? None of you have defective units. Speeds are all over the place, sometimes slower than LTE. This is all normal.
Yes, this is correct - there have been lots of articles on the current 5G situation.
https://www.phonearena.com/news/t-m...-verizon-att-apple-iphone-12-release_id127883

Don't be quick to blame Apple or your carrier - it's all about the building into the infrastructure.

ATT & VZW are behind in their game and only have about 1% of their customers able to leverage 5G ultra. They are building more 5G towers.

When T Mobile bought out Sprint, they used the newly acquired Sprint towers to work with Sub 6 (low and mid frequencies) as well as mm Wave. T Mobile will have at least 25% of their customers on 5G mid band.

Remember, mm Wave (24-28GHz) will only be usable by those that live next to these short range towers without any walls, glass or other obstructions.

Now I know why last year I was asked by T Mobile to test drive one of their new 600Mhz hot spots. They were collecting data on the users' signal strength, data throughput, etc for 5G deployment...
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Depends on a lot of factors. How much frequency is allocated for 5G in your area. The speed of the backend by the tower. Just because 5G > 4G doesn't mean its faster if its not configured correctly.

I'm glad you agree, if a network doesn't have a suitable amount of spectrum and adequate backhaul connected then it's shortchanging you.

5G should show significant speed improvements over LTE, as an example, I usually see around 60-90Mbps during the day on LTE, with congestion that can drop into the 20'sMbps. Even during the day on a fully implemented 5G site it's much faster.

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