Rumors have the next Samsung Galaxy removing the jack already.No doubt. I hope you find a phone that meets your expectations. Willing to bet that one day even Sammy will remove the jack.
Rumors have the next Samsung Galaxy removing the jack already.No doubt. I hope you find a phone that meets your expectations. Willing to bet that one day even Sammy will remove the jack.
Anecdotally, I don't know anyone among the 50 or so people who's phone habits I would consider myself an expert on, who charge their phone while also listening to wired headphones. Maybe it's a regional thing or a socioeconomic thing or whatever... I've never done it, nobody I know has ever done it. That is the basis upon which most people form their opinions..
Just like you assume because you charge and listen, that the rest of the world must do this also...
Maybe there are huge swaths of the population who generally remain stationary in one place and prefer being connected to their mobile device by two cords, one connecting them to that space, and one connecting the mobile device to them physically. It's within the realm of possibilities I suppose. For me and my lifestyle, I have stationary things for stationary tasks and mobile things for mobile tasks... and I charge my phone mostLy overnight or in the car... I don't charge in the middle of the day at work because I'm moving around and don't want to be tied to a wall socket... I suspect this is true for a lot of different jobs.
Ok, so your personal habits aren't suited for the phone right now. Did this need its own thread?I see some improvement in the iPhone 7, but the drawback (lack of headphone jack) is just too much for me.
That is, the lack of headphone jack is too disruptive for my routines.
First is the lack of ability of listen to charge the phone and listen to the music at the same time.
I often go to the library before the midterms and finals and study while listening to music/charging my phone.
I also go to the gym everyday and run on the treadmills, do the elliptical, etc all the while listening to the music and charging the phone.
The solution, according to carry this around with me:
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Second is the lack of the 3.5mm headphone jack itself.
On Friday and Saturday night, I often goes to friends' house for parties.
Wouldn't it be great if I would connect my phone to their audio system and play some music?
Oh, woops! I can't because I didn't bring the Lightning Dock.
Now, I need to run back and get it.
Settle down, I'm not defending any case studies or scientific research.. I made careful choices of words to clearly indicate that this was my experience, which is as valid as anyone else's.Yes, and that's why it's called anecdotal evidence.
I don't use wired headphones. Except when I do. Nobody I know uses wired headphones, except when I don't see them doing it. Yet, Apple included an adapter in the box. Every single iPhone 7 they sell. Must be somebody out there using wired headphones outside of my immediate sphere.
Belkin introduced an adapter that does nothing but allow a user to charge their iPhone 7 and listen to music via a wired headphone. And Belkin introduced it the day after Apple unveiled the iPhone 7. They also said they "worked closely" with Apple to develop it, and have it available as soon as the iPhone 7 started shipping. So why would they do that? How would they even know they needed to do that unless Apple told them it was going to be necessary? And why would Apple spend any time working on an adapter, with everything they had to ready for launch day, that nobody needed?
So anecdotal opinions are usually specious, unless some actual studies, and research analytics are applied.
Settle down, I'm not defending any case studies or scientific research.. I made careful choices of words to clearly indicate that this was my experience, which is as valid as anyone else's.
I'm having a hard time at this post actually following what has you so upset...
Apple is not interested in the headphone jack anymore, period, end of story. It will never be in another iPhone.
Apple partnered with Griffey because there are probably people out there, like yourself, not ready to cut the cord. This solution is designed with you and people like you in mind.
Griffin knew to do this because they are a long time peripheral partner of Apple, and are probably one of several vendors looked to to design and develop peripherals that extend or augment the capabilities or usability of Apple products.. most of the Accessories in the Apple Store are not made by Apple.
Apple included an adapter for reasons that should be obvious to most, but you can certainly also get the official word from Apple I bet as well.
The dominoes are falling on the mini jack, 5 years from now it will be a forgotten memory and children who grew up in a mini-jack free world will be looking at us strangely for our nightmarish memories of this day.
In the end, Apple STILL SELLS a phone with a mini jack, for those that must have it... for the newest phone it offers wired headphones that work with the lightning port right in the box, and it offers an adapter for those who want to use something other than the OEM supplied earbuds, and they will soon have a wireless option branded Apple, as well as hundreds of options on the open market wired and wireless...
Part of R&D is Research, so lacking any evidence to the contrary, I suspect apple did look at the pros and cons of removing the jack and their reasons for doing so may not be fully known to us, ever. (maybe it was to increase battery life, maybe it was to begin down a development road to something totally new)
They probably evaluated human factors and usability and looked at various use cases and consumer journeys before arriving at the conclusion that now was the right time to remove it. And to try and make that change as soft as possible for those affected while still removing it.
Loss can be traumatic and there are several stages of grief that can go along with it, but I get no personal compensation or personal satisfaction out of others using or not using Apple products... in the end the market decides and so, if this is something you just can't reconcile, then don't buy it, and if enough people don't buy it, it won't sell and Apple will have to re-evaluate their roadmap for future generations of phones.
HonestLy this is the most first-world-problems, white privilege, participation-trophy, safe-space phenomena I've seen happen about a consumer device yet.... all of a sudden some of the 1 billion iPhone users have become elite audiophiles and professional photographers over a spec change... is this really what people care deeply about? It's a fascinating window into the human condition if so.
It looks they same.
I hate to be one to break it to you, but wireless is going be way of the future when it comes on to electronics etc. Even the electronics on my road bike and mountain bike corresponds wirelessly my Garmin 1000 cycling computer even tells my Garmin Varia lights how bright it needs to be depending how fast i am going and how dark it is outside. I have been using my Blue Bud X at the gym now for two years and to be honest with you i will never go back to wired earphones using my AW to play music and leaving my 6+ in my locker as been awesome!!! even using Siri to select my favorite songs to play on my UE Boom 2 when i out on the mountain bike trails is amazing!!! here is the deal what ever phone you choose to use in the near future i wouldn't be surprise if they go this route as well especially since Apple is making this change etc. tech as come a long way over the years and its just no going back its either you get on broad or get left behind.Nah. I'll probably be fine using a non-Apple smartphone.
If that's what you care about, that's fine. Personally, I like internal updates more than aesthetic changes, though they can be nice.
The iPhone itself doesn't but the fact it is a mp3 or in apples case AAC. FLAC and WAV files aren't compressedI'm not the one saying iPhone music is bad, that would be you defending the stereo jack. I love they took it out, I have been using good Bluetooth headphones that sound great. I can't tell the difference. Audiophiles like yourself are the people who get all worked up about compression. You're saying Bluetooth compresses audio, well so does the iPhone itself. You're arguing with yourself.
I hate to be one to break it to you, but wireless is going be way of the future when it comes on to electronics etc. Even the electronics on my road bike and mountain bike corresponds wirelessly my Garmin 1000 cycling computer even tells my Garmin Varia lights how bright it needs to be depending how fast i am going and how dark it is outside. I have been using my Blue Bud X at the gym now for two years and to be honest with you i will never go back to wired earphones using my AW to play music and leaving my 6+ in my locker as been awesome!!! even using Siri to select my favorite songs to play on my UE Boom 2 when i out on the mountain bike trails is amazing!!! here is the deal what ever phone you choose to use in the near future i wouldn't be surprise if they go this route as well especially since Apple is making this change etc. tech as come a long way over the years and its just no going back its either you get on broad or get left behind.
When it comes to the tech world sometimes you have to do away with certain things to implement better ones or take the old and make it better thats what it comes down to when the tech companies try to innovate welcome to the 21 century or modern age. Car companies everyone is doing it, I know all change is not for everyone but give it a go and see how you like it before you dismiss it all entirely just my 2cents cheers.
You mean over the air charging from a distance right? I don't think anyone is doing it currently, but I bet Apple will be one of if not the first to do so.Oh, really? Does the iPhone even support wireless charging?
No, I don'tYou mean over the air charging from a distance right? I don't think anyone is doing it currently, but I bet Apple will be one of if not the first to do so.
Putting the phone on a pad plugged into the wall is not really wireless charging, since there's still a wire to the wall and the phone has to remain anchored to the pad.
It will get there soon enough i am sure or even come out with some better way to charge your phone who knows.Oh, really? Does the iPhone even support wireless charging?
I see some improvement in the iPhone 7, but the drawback (lack of headphone jack) is just too much for me.
That is, the lack of headphone jack is too disruptive for my routines.
First is the lack of ability of listen to charge the phone and listen to the music at the same time.
I often go to the library before the midterms and finals and study while listening to music/charging my phone.
I also go to the gym everyday and run on the treadmills, do the elliptical, etc all the while listening to the music and charging the phone.
The solution, according to carry this around with me:
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Second is the lack of the 3.5mm headphone jack itself.
On Friday and Saturday night, I often goes to friends' house for parties.
Wouldn't it be great if I would connect my phone to their audio system and play some music?
Oh, woops! I can't because I didn't bring the Lightning Dock.
Now, I need to run back and get it.
Nah. I'll probably be fine using a non-Apple smartphone.
Lol I on the other hand listen to so much media on the go and forsake an external dac because I can't fit it in my back pocket to go along with am Amp and a cellphone. This is a phone we are talking about and specifically I use my phone on the go..... I end up using my Bose QC35 which helps me listen to my music in peace on the train to school. For portable use whenever I don't use my QC35 I still use my V-Moda M-100 which sound 100 times better than my Bose QC35. One song I listen to a lot recently you can tell the difference is Don't let you down by the chainsmokers featuring Daya. Specially toward the end of the song you miss a few bears on the Bose headphones. On speakers and wired headphones you can hear those said beats.
Hypothetically since your a niche case that needs this stuff (or think you do) what will you do if every other phone in the next few years removes the headphone jack?
Think I do? Lol I know what I want and I don't like companies removing choice when A) they have no good reason to do it when the device is the same exact shape basically as the outgoing model and B) they want to dictate what they think you should use. If it wasn't for iMessage I would probably go right back to buying Android devices which would of been the Samsung Galaxy Note 7 but with the phone exploding the 7 edge or perhaps that new LG V20 or whatever it's called.Hypothetically since your a niche case that needs this stuff (or think you do) what will you do if every other phone in the next few years removes the headphone jack?
What's your point at all? Go buy a phone with that ancient headphone jack. This thread clearly shows that almost nobody cares or shares your yesterday view.... never been a problem for me
Keyword in that sentence is could. I don't play with what ifs. Will gladly keep my device until Apple, Samsung or whoever decides to purposely break my device and who knows maybe I'll go back to flip phones out of protest and find an old iPod and use it instead?
If you dont play in what if's, whats the point in any further conversation? I was genuinely interested what you would do if every other company follows suit and removes the headphone jack, what you would do. I guess I got my answer? You would stop using and enjoying new modern technology and use a flip phone "in protest", as if this is some god damn civil rights issue or something.
Likely scenario: you make a stink about it now. Other companies do what apple did. You wait awhile and finally cave in and buy a new phone because your old one was a piece of crap and died on you. You feel like such a sellout for a bit, then get used to it and adapt and a few years from now look back at this conversation and laugh.
The end. Cue sad but also inspirational music