Actually I do and the iPhone isn't that bad. I use Apple music for the sake of saving money since I listen to a lot of music but I do buy some cds and use WAV files since they are uncompressed files. The DAC used in the iPhone's are actually one of the better ones in mobile devices when you compare them to the competition in the United States which uses Qualcomm for the most part. Few phones used Samsung's exynos cpu which uses wolfsons DAC which is also fairly good as well. So you should go follow a audiophile forum before you start talking as well
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No headphone jack = no iPhone 7 for me
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Actually I do and the iPhone isn't that bad. I use Apple music for the sake of saving money since I listen to a lot of music but I do buy some cds and use WAV files since they are uncompressed files. The DAC used in the iPhone's are actually one of the better ones in mobile devices when you compare them to the competition in the United States which uses Qualcomm for the most part. Few phones used Samsung's exynos cpu which uses wolfsons DAC which is also fairly good as well. So you should go follow a audiophile forum before you start talking as well
I'm not the one saying iPhone music is bad, that would be you defending the stereo jack. I love they took it out, I have been using good Bluetooth headphones that sound great. I can't tell the difference. Audiophiles like yourself are the people who get all worked up about compression. You're saying Bluetooth compresses audio, well so does the iPhone itself. You're arguing with yourself.
You know, I never understand the need the rush to be the first to get something just released.
What's the rush?
I can assure you that my opinion is shared by many others.
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Why rush out and buy at full price?
I like doing this too (though it's not a deal killer). My mentality here is why let my battery drain (ie charge cycles rack up) when I don't need to? Considering I decided to keep my 6s plus another year (not solely due to the headphone jack thing) I feel like that will legitimately lengthen the life, and thus value, of my device. For those set on upgrading yearly no matter what, that will obviously not be much of a draw, if at all.
I've decided the iPhone 7 is for me. Eliminating the headphone jack is a plus to me as I stream music at home and on the go, via Bluetooth, which keeps me unfettered by wires and free to move myself and my phone around the environment with complete freedom. If I go to a party, pairing with my friends Bluetooth speakers is a snap and I don't need to pack patch cables and cords, it's just come as you are..
when I hop into the car, the phone syncs wirelessly with my head unit (which lacks CDm DVD, Casette and 8-track imagine!) and I can control music and phone calls via my paired Apple Watch, again no wires.
Travel is great without wires as it was always one of those things that were a pain to pack and keep accessible... I just pack a small battery backup with a 1m lightning cable and shorty watch cable in the event I get stranded an an airport or its too long a flight... the cable does double duty with any USB port I come across and they are pretty much everywhere now, in planes, in hotels... my local bar even has USB wall outlets under the bar, next to the pocketbook hooks (a genius idea by the way)
After a long day of activity, I like to shut down electronics for the night and recharge my phone and watch on the kitchen counter so I won't be distracted and disrupt my sleep. In the morning it's back at it again... cutiing wires from a wireless device is cathartic and refreshing.
I surely don't miss the days of having vinyl wire jewelry connecting my pockets to my ears and catching it, twisting it, knotting it in seemingly everything within reach... I don't miss accidentally pulling my phone off a desk because I got up with headphones on. I don't miss those wires at all.
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Let me know how you find a way to get more money for your phone because of charge cycles.
when I hop into the car, the phone syncs wirelessly with my head unit (which lacks CDm DVD, Casette and 8-track imagine!) and I can control music and phone calls via my paired Apple Watch, again no wires.
Travel is great without wires as it was always one of those things that were a pain to pack and keep accessible... I just pack a small battery backup with a 1m lightning cable and shorty watch cable in the event I get stranded an an airport or its too long a flight... the cable does double duty with any USB port I come across and they are pretty much everywhere now, in planes, in hotels... my local bar even has USB wall outlets under the bar, next to the pocketbook hooks (a genius idea by the way)
After a long day of activity, I like to shut down electronics for the night and recharge my phone and watch on the kitchen counter so I won't be distracted and disrupt my sleep. In the morning it's back at it again... cutiing wires from a wireless device is cathartic and refreshing.
I surely don't miss the days of having vinyl wire jewelry connecting my pockets to my ears and catching it, twisting it, knotting it in seemingly everything within reach... I don't miss accidentally pulling my phone off a desk because I got up with headphones on. I don't miss those wires at all.
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Let me know how you find a way to get more money for your phone because of charge cycles.
So what you are saying is that you can't do those things with phones because they have headphone jacks?
This isn't about increasing resale value. This is about increasing the longevity of the device for me for the extra year that I am keeping it. Last time I checked I was already over 300 cycles, meaning another year will leave me at 600. At this rate, by the end of year two, I will have 80% of the total battery capacity I started with, or less.
If you are hung up on the term "value", I was referring to value for me; I won;t be buying an $80 battery if I don't need to. Things haven't been about resale value for me for years. Believe it or not I am actually on Jump on Demand with this phone, so I have zero resale incentive to keep it. If I am happy with the next iphone and am given enough reason to upgrade I am likely to take advantage of trading my phone in and receiving the next phone free through bill credits (assuming this years promos are run again)
Nah, the phone still works with or without wired headphones...I'm just happy it doesn't have the headphone jack that it doesn't need... this will have an effect in the market which will shift a lot of R&D to more choices in wireless which benefits me. If the jack were still there, then the incentive for others to innovate is substantially diminished. And, as a side game for the short term I suppose, there will be some short term innovation to address those who can't cut the cord yet.
Someone else said in another thread, this is like the uproar when they removed the 5" floppy drive and the 3.5" disc (I have all these games and programs I bought! How will I save backups?!) then they got rid of the CD/DVD drive too... people acted like they were being murdered... how will I rip music and movies? How will I store my library digitally? Then digital distribution basically took over all forms of media distribution...
The missing jack will be an afterthought in less than a year and people instead will be talking about the transformation to wireless....
The missing jack will be an afterthought in less than a year and people instead will be talking about the transformation to wireless....
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Oh man. I'm gonna let you figure out why that response is so funny.
Fair enough. I have been upgrading every 2 years due to contracts all these years. Not sure if I will feel the need to upgrade annually under the new system or not. I use my phone a lot, but clearly don't monitor he number of charge cycles or worry about scratches or whatever. I treat it like the expensive piece of necessary tech (for me) -that it is, but that's it. I'm not in the case and screen protector crowd.
Why? ...because you think that music sounds better over Bluetooth than over wire?