no imac july 24th

[NunoBerny]

No iMac in July, at least one customer less for apple..
When they release their ivy brigde update in the next weeks / months / years it will be already old..

It's a pity, but i will not wait forever..

I'm basically in the same situation. Have been waiting for a few motnhs, but eventually I will give up.
I really want to leave Windows and embark on the iMac experience, but won't wait forever. ANd if I buy a new Windows box, I will stay for a while, since I can't afford a new computer every couple of years.
Frustrating (potential) clients doesn't seem the smart thing to do...
July is the limit for me.

 

[Soundburst]

• Leaked Geekbench results in May points to updated iMacs being tested.
• Apple PR clarifying that only the Mac Pro will be updated next year not the iMac. They went out of their way to correct this.
• 400+ days since refresh.
• Lion released with new hardware last year and Mountain Lion is out within the next few weeks.
• GTX 680M finally available (likely to be graphics card used).

The climate is ripe for a spec bump and there's no good reason I can think of for Apple to wait.

Is this better than the 6770M? Will it play better games. . .does it start at 1GB or do you think they'll stick with 512mb?

 

[iMcLovin]

Forget Mac Pro and MacBook Pro.

What is validating Apple's decision to allow the iMac to die a slow death is the success of the MacBook Air. Whether we like it or not, it has replaced the iMac the de facto consumer Mac. If there's no new iMac hardware on sale coincident with ML, I'm heading in that direction myself, and I've had an iMac of every generation to date.

It would be fascinating to know the ratio of MacBook Air to iMac sales. I bet that will tell us everything about where Apple is focusing its efforts and why.

How can an mb air replace an iMac, unless you are always buying the lowest iMac specs and only use it for trivial stuff. For me the air is completely useless as a working machine....it's purely a on-the-go/bring to holiday machine with limited possibilities. Even the MacBook pro doesn't give me the juice and power I need without being ridiculously expensive and still it would just lie there uncomfortably hot and in the way on my table - its not practical... And I would feel uncomfortable dragging around a super expensive maxed out retina MacBook pro, it's just too expensive for mobility. Damn apple for how they treat their desktop users!

 

[NunoBerny]

How can an mb air replace an iMac, unless you are always buying the lowest iMac specs and only use it for trivial stuff. For me the air is completely useless as a working machine....it's purely a on-the-go/bring to holiday machine with limited possibilities. Even the MacBook pro doesn't give me the juice and power I need without being ridiculously expensive and still it would just lie there uncomfortably hot and in the way on my table - its not practical... And I would feel uncomfortable dragging around a super expensive maxed out retina MacBook pro, it's just too expensive for mobility. Damn apple for how they treat their desktop users!

Apple fixation with mobility will lose them a few fans.
I think there is a place for everything and saying an iMac will be "replaced" by something totally different is wrong.
People that need desktops will buy desktops.
I always thought of laptops/iPads as a complement to the main desktop computer. I'm sure I'm not alone on this.

To just say "forget desktops" is something I find a bit stupid.

 

[iSayuSay]

How can an mb air replace an iMac, unless you are always buying the lowest iMac specs and only use it for trivial stuff. For me the air is completely useless as a working machine....it's purely a on-the-go/bring to holiday machine with limited possibilities. Even the MacBook pro doesn't give me the juice and power I need without being ridiculously expensive and still it would just lie there uncomfortably hot and in the way on my table - its not practical... And I would feel uncomfortable dragging around a super expensive maxed out retina MacBook pro, it's just too expensive for mobility. Damn apple for how they treat their desktop users!

We're talking about Apple here. It sells a bunch of Thunderbolt Display without having to make it compatible with current MacPro.

Apple can sell you MBA + ATD and makes you feel like a pro with "real pro" notebook.
I don't like it either but desktop is dead in Apple's agenda. Slowly but surely it's gonna kill desktop like it's killing iPod. A slow subtle painful death

I don't have problem about using notebook, but it's been decades since the first laptop been around and it's hardly catching up yet.
To get an equal performance with mid-end desktop in a laptop package you still gotta pay twice or thrice the amount.

 

[Gaiduku]

Excellent use of the word thrice there....it's definitely not use enough

On a serious note I'm in the same boat as everyone else. I've been waiting a long time but now I really cannot wait any longer. I'm in desperate need of a new computer and I really refuse to pay for the current outdated iMacs. A lot of people on topics here have moaned at the waiters, telling them that of they're really desperate then just suck it up and buy the 2011 version. Normally this wouldn't be too much of an issue as long as apple sticks to its ~1 year update schedule.

However with the iMac nearly 500 days old and no discount since its release (I believe) then it is very poor value for money. It's looking increasingly likely I'm just gonna build my own pc

 

[Lancer]

Well that sucks!

I just hope WHEN the next iMac comes it's worth the wait and we don't get treated like the Mac Pro fans

 

[Seamaster]

How can an mb air replace an iMac, unless you are always buying the lowest iMac specs and only use it for trivial stuff.

You answered your own question. That's the vast majority of the consumer Mac marketplace.

 

[iMcLovin]

You answered your own question. That's the vast majority of the consumer Mac marketplace.

Well I seriously hope that's not how apple sees it. I for one spend more money on apple stuff than anything else, and without a proper desktop I'll eventually get a pc ( I rather have windows pc than a Mac laptop) and once that happens my apple collection will start to shatter... Then I'll just buy whatever I want there and then...apple or not apple. I think I'm not the only one thinking like this

 

[Angelis]

At this rate, iMacs are to be replaced by iHacks and Windows boxes. This is bad form for Apple, and a post-Jobs pressure-test fail IMHO.

I'm giving them until the end of July, and if they don't make good on the iMac by then, I'm going to put off my switch to Mac for a couple of years, and save a shovel of money by building myself a PC.

 

[iSayuSay]

At this rate, iMacs are to be replaced by iHacks and Windows boxes. This is bad form for Apple, and a post-Jobs pressure-test fail IMHO.

I'm giving them until the end of July, and if they don't make good on the iMac by then, I'm going to put off my switch to Mac for a couple of years, and save a shovel of money by building myself a PC.

You know what .. so will I ..
I'm planning that maybe in the next 2 years to get myself a nice gaming box, whatever Macbook Air in 2014 and Thunderbolt Display. Both machines will be plugged into ATD. I'm sure by that time, Thunderbolt will become the norm.

If Apple just want to be "the biggest mobile devices company in the world" so be it! No more OSX in my primary desktop.

 

[Broseidon]

What really gets me is the cost of the Thunder Bolt display - it's insane.

I know it's a high quality screen but for £899...! That is stupid. If it were £499, I'd get a laptop and a display, it's a no-brainer.

If they're going to neglect the iMac, at least they could make a decent priced monitor

I'm waiting till the 25th, if there's no new iMac I'm sorry to say that I will have to bite the bullet and get an old 27". It pisses me off and sours the experience but it's a tool for work and I need a new one.

 

[Gaiduku]

What really gets me is the cost of the Thunder Bolt display - it's insane.

I know it's a high quality screen but for £899...! That is stupid. If it were £499, I'd get a laptop and a display, it's a no-brainer.

If they're going to neglect the iMac, at least they could make a decent priced monitor

I'm waiting till the 25th, if there's no new iMac I'm sorry to say that I will have to bite the bullet and get an old 27". It pisses me off and sours the experience but it's a tool for work and I need a new one.

It's apples obsession with their own propriety stuff thats getting to me. I know Thunderbolt isn't Apples own property and will eventually get popular elsewhere but why are they only investing in it and nothing else? To make more money obviously. Fortunately the rMBP comes with a HDMI port so could be plugged into practically any HD tv and monitor around yet no other apple products currently offer this.... and I seriously doubt an updated iMac will either.

Obviously if they did no one would buy they're stupidly overpriced Thunderbolt display - but if I'm gonna spend good money on an apple computer and ever do want to plug in an external display.... i dont have to get a second mortgage to do so.

 

[AndyCarolan]

I'm waiting till the 25th, if there's no new iMac I'm sorry to say that I will have to bite the bullet and get an old 27". It pisses me off and sours the experience but it's a tool for work and I need a new one.

Im in much the same situation. I need a computer for my work and am currently using a 3 yr old Dell running Windows 7. I will buy the 2011 27" Mac and it will clearly be better than what I am using now, but would rather get a more up to date system. But I am set on switching, and that's what I will do

 

[forty2j]

Is this better than the 6770M? Will it play better games. . .does it start at 1GB or do you think they'll stick with 512mb?

Err.. the 680M starts at 2GB and is roughly 3-4x the performance of the 6770m. Of course, the 6770m is the base 27" 2011 and the 680M should be the top end 27" 2012. I'm guessing 660M for the base 27" 2012, which is still a very healthy jump over the 6770m (which, frankly, kinda blows at what it's being asked to do).

 

[Lacos]

We will see where Apple is going to without Steve..
I have concerns that it will be the wrong directon.
Steve always cared about his customers, but unfortunately i am unsure apple will continue to do that in future at the same effort.

The leaving from EPEAT, then backpedal on that for example - i hope that these are not the first signs..

 

[Soundburst]

Err.. the 680M starts at 2GB and is roughly 3-4x the performance of the 6770m. Of course, the 6770m is the base 27" 2011 and the 680M should be the top end 27" 2012. I'm guessing 660M for the base 27" 2012, which is still a very healthy jump over the 6770m (which, frankly, kinda blows at what it's being asked to do).

Do you think the base 27inch iMac will start at 1GB VRam or do you think its they'll stick with just the 512mb

 

[Lancer]

Do you think the base 27inch iMac will start at 1GB VRam or do you think its they'll stick with just the 512mb

I hope not, really hope the base is 1Gb and the top 27" is 2G or VRAM.

 

[Angelis]

We will see where Apple is going to without Steve..
I have concerns that it will be the wrong directon.
Steve always cared about his customers, but unfortunately i am unsure apple will continue to do that in future at the same effort.

The leaving from EPEAT, then backpedal on that for example - i hope that these are not the first signs..

Yes that was a weird move. It seems to radiate a certain level of uncertainty. I won't go so far as to classify what defines a good or bad direction, but I will say that consumer confidence will be lost without at least a clear direction.

Consumers these days are pretty savvy, and it's the more tech-knowledgeable customers who spearhead word-of-mouth propagation. When those self-same people deduce that there is no apparent supply-chain, hardware or software release issues that would hold back something as fairly straightforward as a spec bumped machine, it does leave the wider customer base wondering what the "Black-box that is Apple" contains of the crazed comments from the pilots of this plummeting iMac plane.

 

[Broseidon]

Im in much the same situation. I need a computer for my work and am currently using a 3 yr old Dell running Windows 7. I will buy the 2011 27" Mac and it will clearly be better than what I am using now, but would rather get a more up to date system. But I am set on switching, and that's what I will do

I'm in a worse boat - I'm doing all of my developing work on a 6 year old HP laptop running Windows 7 after the graphics card in my HP desktop finally blew last month after 6.5 years of constant use.

To be fair, both have held up amazingly well - they've been used most days since purchase for 8+ hours a day. Both were top of the range at the time but I never expected to be still using them in 2012 - they're work computers so I've never been fussed with upgrading them to the latest and greatest.

I've currently got Firefox, Chrome, Spotify, Photoshop CS5, Programmers Notepad++, MS Excel & MS Outlook all open and running at the same time without any problems on the laptop - it's a little slow but nothing major.

HP do / did make amazingly resilient products but I'm afraid it's time to switch to Macs

 

[forty2j]

Do you think the base 27inch iMac will start at 1GB VRam or do you think its they'll stick with just the 512mb

The 660M comes at 1GB, 1.5GB, or 2GB. Frankly with all the pixels on the 27" they should just go with 2GB standard.

 

[Soundburst]

The 660M comes at 1GB, 1.5GB, or 2GB. Frankly with all the pixels on the 27" they should just go with 2GB standard.

Awesome, that pretty much means the next iMac will be 1GB standard

Will probably play games at 720p though

 

[forty2j]

no imacs or minis the 24th says 9to5mac. THIS IS SO EFFIN UPSETTING!!

This year, Mountain Lion isn’t being launched alongside hardware (last year was new Minis and Airs launched with Lion) so there is less setup required and accordingly, we’re hearing that the overnights will be smaller.

I have a hard time seeing how 9to5 reaches this conclusion. An optimist point of view would be that new iMacs are launching, but not Minis, and the stock is so low on current iMacs that it will take hardly any effort to get the 4 sample models set up and the stock room organized. Note that the "kids area" had iMacs replaced by iPads so there's no effort there.

There are now 4 stores within 50 miles of me that are out of stock of one of the 27" models.

 

[Angelis]

I have a hard time seeing how 9to5 reaches this conclusion. An optimist point of view would be that new iMacs are launching, but not Minis, and the stock is so low on current iMacs that it will take hardly any effort to get the 4 sample models set up and the stock room organized. Note that the "kids area" had iMacs replaced by iPads so there's no effort there.

There are now 4 stores within 50 miles of me that are out of stock of one of the 27" models.

JB HiFi in Australia (a big reseller) seems to be consistently out of stock of the 27" models. I wouldn't be surprised if the new model is actually a go for this month. But then I wouldn't be surprised if it's not, just sorely disappointed.

 

[Broseidon]

I was told last week by the Manager of one of the Comet stores in the UK that the base model 27" is now shown as DISCONTINUED on their system.

They have almost zero stock.

Saying that, their stock has been patchy at best for months now.