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No Keynote at Apple Expo Paris

I just confirmed a comment on another website, that rebates on Amazon for PowerBooks and PowerMacs expire tomorrow. Is there any track record for Amazon rebate expiration dates coinciding with new product announcements?
 
Here's a rumor found on digg.com

http://krose.typepad.com/kevinrose/2005/09/apples_big_anno.html

"Apple has sent out invitations to a "Special Music Event" to be held at 10:00AM in the Moscone Center West in San Fransisco on September 7th..

Why wait till tomorrow?

New Products:
- Cingular will announce an iTunes compatible phone - the "Rocker"
- New 2GB ipod called the "Nano" - it will sport a color screen and will be much smaller and thinner than a mini. Price = $199

No video ipod.. You heard it here first."
 
chatin said:
MS seems to be self destructing so why not sit on the ball and run out the clock.
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I love it. People make these statements and don't have a freaking clue as to what they are talking about....last I checked MS has cash assets in the 11 figure range. As in BILLIONS. And we aren't even talking about what they could potentially liquidate to add to the that figure. The simple fact is MS could release another decade of flops before it starts hitting them. Oh and we will ignore the fact that they are still making money hand over fist over foot. Take your previcid and eat down these facts:

http://www.microsoft.com/msft/earnings/FY05/earn_rel_q2_05.mspx

– Microsoft Corp. today announced record revenue of $10.82 billion for the quarter ended December 31, 2004, a 7% increase over the results in the same period of the prior year. Operating income for the second quarter was $4.75 billion, which was an increase of $3.27 billion over the same period in the prior year. The results of the second quarter of the prior year included $2.21 billion in compensation expense incurred in connection with the Employee Stock Option Transfer Program. Net income for the second quarter was $3.46 billion. Diluted earnings per share exceeded the company’s guidance by $0.04 and were $0.32 including stock-based compensation expense.

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Management offers the following guidance for the quarter ending March 31, 2005:

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Revenue is expected to be in the range of $9.7 billion and $9.8 billion.
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Operating income is expected to be in the range of $4.1 billion and $4.2 billion, including stock-based compensation expense.
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Diluted earnings per share are expected to be $0.27 or $0.28, including stock-based compensation expense.

Management offers the following guidance for the full fiscal year ending June 30, 2005:

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Revenue is expected to be in the range of $39.8 billion and $40.0 billion.
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Operating income is expected to be in the range of $16.5 billion and $16.7 billion, including stock-based compensation expense.
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Continue on with your delusions that MS is going anywhere. How many people said the same thing when the gov. came down on big blue. The reality, for those who care to join us in the real world, is that companies the size of Microsoft don't die. Period. They have enough money under their belt that they can make FUBAR mistakes for decades and still easily recover in a year's time which in MS case only takes an OS release or two. Remember that their bread and butter is OEM's. Unless then start jumping to Linux en mass, they aren't, MS's will continue to have profitable quarters. Now if Apple OEM's their OS....that is a different matter. Ballmer would have a heart attack hearing the news.
 
ZorPrime said:
tripple core http://www.xbox.com/en-US/xbox360/factsheet.htm ! :eek:

three cores, two threads per core= six threads! :eek:

where's my tripple core Mac??? :mad:

Edit: When I said core I was refering to threads. Just thought I'd clarify before everyone starts ripping into what I said. ;)
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God. I want to take everyone who keeps making these comparisons, line them up, and run along the line doing a three stooges slap along the way.
One last time: THE BLOODY CPU IN THE XBOX IS NOT A G5!!!!!!!!!


Supernova17 said:
^from the same story

http://www.maj.com/gallery/Karim/Main/nano_large.jpg
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Who do I have to.....pay to get that....OMG it’s beautiful and so won't be what Apple releases. :( Murphy's law...just won't happen.
 
I bet no one saw that coming. I guess there won't be any major announcements then. Ouch...
 
SiliconAddict said:
One last time: THE BLOODY CPU IN THE XBOX IS NOT A G5!!!!!!!!!
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well.....u didnt realized how shock while I saw XBOX 306 demo in E3 was run in a G5......
 
I have a question for you all...

If Apple doesn't release any new hardware (and not just minor speed bumps) within the next 6-8 weeks will you wait for thevMacIntel stuff before you buy?

If you , and alot of others answer 'Yes' then Apple may see lean times through end 2006?

I was thinking about a new G5 but I will probably wait till MacIntel products....

What are your thoughts?
 
SiliconAddict said:
God. I want to take everyone who keeps making these comparisons, line them up, and run along the line doing a three stooges slap along the way.
One last time: THE BLOODY CPU IN THE XBOX IS NOT A G5!!!!!!!!!
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:eek:

I know that. Look at the following posts: #78, #82, #103, #147, #153... never mentioned a G5 in the Xbox 360, PPC yes G5 no. ;)
 
AidenShaw said:
By any normal definition of "overclock", Apple is pushing the envelope with these systems. If "requiring watercooling" doesn't hint of "overclock", you should back away from the RDF for a while.
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Um, the definition of overclock is to clock the CPU over what it's rated by the manufacturer. Since Apple and IBM are the manufacturers, how can it be overclocked? Watercooling does not equal overclocked. It equals hot. But quiet. I guess those P4s are overclocked too huh? ;)
 
So, basically, the people at apple are scratching their heads, trying to figure out something to do. Apparently, they aren't doing anything, at the moment, and have no major plans, at least until intel gives them a bit to talk about, but that's it. Encore to the ipod? nahhh, just sell some stock while it's still all hot.
 
Apple's 4 billion and high stock price beats MS' systemic problems

SiliconAddict said:
I love it. People make these statements and don't have a freaking clue as to what they are talking about....last I checked MS has cash assets in the 11 figure range.

Continue on with your delusions that MS is going anywhere. How many people said the same thing when the gov. came down on big blue. The reality, for those who care to join us in the real world, is that companies the size of Microsoft don't die. Period. They have enough money under their belt that they can make FUBAR mistakes for decades and still easily recover in a year's time which in MS case only takes an OS release or two. Remember that their bread and butter is OEM's. Unless then start jumping to Linux en mass, they aren't, MS's will continue to have profitable quarters. Now if Apple OEM's their OS....that is a different matter. Ballmer would have a heart attack hearing the news.
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That looks good on paper, but MS would have to use most of that cash to buy back enough stock to get the price out of negative territory. Down 25% over 5 years.

Low stock price = Unhappy employees!! (Bonus tied to stock price)

Apple with 4 billion in the bank, is in a much stronger net/net position. And has momentum clearly on its side!
 
The 7th better be good then....

....and more than justa phone and smaller iPods/iPod minis.


I wonder how far Apple stock wioll drop once the markets open on the announcement of no keynote? If hte 7th is lame, the stock wioll continue to drop. I think a lot of people are nervous about the Intel switch and this will not make things any better.

It is not just you and I the Apple faithful who want new and innovative products (comoputer products too, as I read somewhere once Apple was a computer company :p ) Wall Street and Apple shareholders want it too (not just to keeop the stock price up but to report good divedends as well)
 
MS is not down

chatin said:
That looks good on paper, but MS would have to use most of that cash to buy back enough stock to get the price out of negative territory. Down 25% over 5 years.

Low stock price = Unhappy employees!! (Bonus tied to stock price)

Apple with 4 billion in the bank, is in a much stronger net/net position. And has momentum clearly on its side!
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MS stock is not down over 5 years. It split once and current price needs to be doubled to compare to 2000 price. In otherwords it is up nearly 50% since 2000.
 
Apple does not make CPUs

solvs said:
Um, the definition of overclock is to clock the CPU over what it's rated by the manufacturer. Since Apple and IBM are the manufacturers, how can it be overclocked? Watercooling does not equal overclocked. It equals hot. But quiet. I guess those P4s are overclocked too huh? ;)
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No, Apple buys CPUs from IBM and Freescale (Moto), and now Intel. Apple does not design nor manufacture CPUs.

People familiar with CPU technology know the concept of "binning" - the chip makers test each CPU, and some will run without errors at a given MHz, and some will be slower, and some will be faster. Inside a "bin", one might find CPUs that will perform reliably at a higher speed - especially if they're kept cool using special heat sink technology (aka "water").

Apple has been selling systems for several years that are running faster than the fastest chips sold by their suppliers. This is not illegal or a bad thing, it just means that Apple is backing the warranty - not the CPU maker.

Dell/HP/IBM are not overclocking the P4 chips - they're running at the (Intel) manufacturer's rating. Some other, small, companies are putting out special water-coolied PCs with overclocked Intel chips - and, like Apple, those companies are assuming the warranty obligations for overclocking.

Overclocking is not illegal - but for job's sake step back from the Kool-Aid and admit that Apple is taking the step of running chips a bit faster than their "bin" would allow.
 
Originally Posted by SiliconAddict
God. I want to take everyone who keeps making these comparisons, line them up, and run along the line doing a three stooges slap along the way.
One last time: THE BLOODY CPU IN THE XBOX IS NOT A G5!!!!!!!!!
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But aren't they close?
 
digitalbiker said:
MS stock is not down over 5 years. It split once and current price needs to be doubled to compare to 2000 price. In otherwords it is up nearly 50% since 2000.
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No, he's right. Their stock price 5 years ago appears to be in the $35 range. It's now at $27. That's about a 23% decline. This is adjusted for the split. See a chart here.

However, while Apple has $4 billion in the bank, Microsoft has quite a bit more - I believe the number being thrown around recently is 35-40 billion.
 
Nothing new to sell.

How sad.

Stagnation.

I'm quite surprised that Apple aren't demoing the next OSX, to be honest.
 
Chart is not split adjusted

therevolution said:
No, he's right. Their stock price 5 years ago appears to be in the $35 range. It's now at $27. That's about a 23% decline. This is adjusted for the split. See a chart here.

However, while Apple has $4 billion in the bank, Microsoft has quite a bit more - I believe the number being thrown around recently is 35-40 billion.
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That chart is not adjusted for the split.
I bought some MS stock in 2001 for $23 just as the chart shows. It split and I doubled my shares. Now it is at 27. Those stock values of $35 were pre-split, it spit in 2003 and now is at $27. Therefore to adjust for the split todays $27 is equivalent to $54 in 2000 which is about a 50% gain compred to $35.
 
Apple is canceling the Mac

groovebuster said:
Hmmm, I just wonder why the Apple website still states that there will be a keynote???

Link
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Perhaps they don't know that Apple has decided to cancel all Mac development in order to concentrate on an Ipod-only product line?

[/sarcasm]
 
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