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autrefois said:
Apple should not look into this. Apple should just beef up their streaming capabilities for whenever the keynote is put online.

Apple's not exactly poor these days, and the expense would be worth it I'm sure. People end up (impulse) buying things after watching the keynote because Steve is a terrific speaker/salesman.

Keep the keynote freely available to everyone!

EDIT: And thanks in advance to Macrumors for covering the event live, hope the new webcast system works out well!

yea....apple needs to stop being a greedy bastard. I dont see how streaming it live would hurt them. a Couple extra bills wouldnt hurt the company. If anything, slam it under the publicity/advertising costs.
 
Mwsf Fever!!!

I can't wait for MWSF!!!! I just hate I have school! It is a university so I guess I could just skip class but my girlfriend really gets pissed if I skip too much! She is good to me! If she isn't in class when a big announcement comes out she will text all the info to me! Now THATS love!

I'll have Safari working overtime keeping up with the million and one Mac sites I'll be looking at!
 
illegalprelude said:
yea....apple needs to stop being a greedy bastard. I dont see how streaming it live would hurt them. a Couple extra bills wouldnt hurt the company. If anything, slam it under the publicity/advertising costs.

Perhaps the reason it's not streamed live has nothing to do with Apple's pockets but Macworld's. Maybe they don't want their keynote streamed live over the internet in order to incite people to attend it in person. Perhaps...
 
good point

That is a good point. We fail to think that there are a lot more parties involved other than Apple.
 
dejo said:
Perhaps the reason it's not streamed live has nothing to do with Apple's pockets but Macworld's. Maybe they don't want their keynote streamed live over the internet in order to incite people to attend it in person. Perhaps...

I can't believe that this year's Keynote wouldn't have been sold out if there were a live webcast. Has that happened before?

Maybe it is technically very hard to do (read: even more expensive than we realise). Every year it seems more and more people want to watch the keynote live, and everyone is also expecting higher quality video.
Take the webcast of last year's WWDC. The quality is great IMHO. I know the H.264 codec makes it possible to achieve higher quality while maintaining relative small AV-files, but I think Apple/MacWorld cannot live up to the huge simultaneous demand.
 
SiliconAddict said:
Normally I'd let this slide because I’m tired and its 1AM but I can't resist. . .so if they can really afford it please fill in the blanks. . .

W * (X * Y) = Z

W = cost per MB
X = Number of MB per connection
Y = Number of total active connection for the most anticipated MacWorld in recent history.

Apple would probably have a single stream (per resolution provided) from the event being multicast over Akamai's [very comprehensive worldwide] network (Akamai used as an example), thus saving bandwidth. In this case, Y = 1. I'm sure that Akamai's fees aren't low, but they're certainly lower than providing the bandwidth yourself.
 
the last keynote i watched i remember it stuttering badly because of the amount of load on their servers...

it's not suprising but it's kinda sad that even with the growing interest they're not thinking of streaming it live. at least it'll be available for replay...

maybe one of these years i'll be able to make it over there!

when do they usually post it afterwards? i'm in the UK so i've got about 24 hours to watch it before i'm off to poland for the week so THEY BETTER PUT IT UP QUICKLY!

:rolleyes:
 
Peace said:
Figured there wouldn't be live webcast but it looks like arn and macrumors has a nice set-up to deliver the info to us!..

3300 hits a second..

Wonder if this Macworld is gonna set a record.:)

I have to admit that 3,300 is only a theoretical maximum - it is only achievable when the files are extremely small; with a real site it's closer to about 1,500 - 2,000. However, that is per server, and there are 4 servers :D The current record for an event is ~1,300 hits/second, I will be extremely surprised if that's not broken this time.

corywoolf said:
Everybody remember to constantly refresh their browsers every 2 seconds during the live feed.;)

Please don't ;) The page should update itself every 60 seconds, and I may try and reduce that depending on the load during the event.
 
I have a feeling that part of the reason for not having live streams, is to give Media incentive to actually attend the event, as opposed to saving LOTS of money by not having to ship their editors to the event just to cover the keynote. NAIAS has done similar with the Detroit Auto Show, and it is increasingly more difficult to bring in Video equipment to this International Auto Show.

As long as the keynote is available later VIA stream I will be fine.

I will be onsite for many keynote addresses at NAIAS, and attending many keynotes under This Schedule. :)
 
bigandy said:
the last keynote i watched i remember it stuttering badly because of the amount of load on their servers...

it's not suprising but it's kinda sad that even with the growing interest they're not thinking of streaming it live. at least it'll be available for replay...

maybe one of these years i'll be able to make it over there!

when do they usually post it afterwards? i'm in the UK so i've got about 24 hours to watch it before i'm off to poland for the week so THEY BETTER PUT IT UP QUICKLY!

:rolleyes:


so where will they put it up? it works just fine for me as long as i can see the big man present!!!
does anyone know?


irrelevant but does anyone know if the last keynote is available? the on on November or October i cant remeber.
Im talking about the FrontRow keynote!
 
zoran said:
so where will they put it up? it works just fine for me as long as i can see the big man present!!!
does anyone know?


irrelevant but does anyone know if the last keynote is available? the on on November or October i cant remeber.
Im talking about the FrontRow keynote!


head over to http://www.apple.com/quicktime/ and you'll see the keynote appear there when it is available.

the "special event" is up there or just go to http://www.apple.com/quicktime/qtv/specialeventoct05/


:D ;)
 
bigandy said:
i'm liking the server in Glasgow, only 30 miles south west for my page requests to travel :)

Unfortunately it's not set up like that - you'll probably end up using the ones in the US.

bigandy said:
when do they usually post it afterwards? i'm in the UK so i've got about 24 hours to watch it before i'm off to poland for the week so THEY BETTER PUT IT UP QUICKLY!

In october it took 2 hours for the stream to appear after the keynote finished, in June it was about 3 hours.
 
No need for a stream!

... I already know how the Intel-based iBook intro will go. Picture the scene...

MWSF conference hall. Steve's already shown the exterior of the iBook, and now turns to the demo unit hooked up to the giant screens...

"Now, let's show you what this thing's like. Let's start from a cold bootup..."

*Steve presses the power button*

Black screen. Then, instead of *daaaah!*, we hear a *beep*. Screen shows:

AWARD BIOS - Phoenix Technologies Ltd. Energy Star compliant

Apple iBook 2000MHz

... all in a glorious 8x8 pixel terminal font.

*audience gasps*... then..

*beep-beep*

No keyboard present. Press F1 to continue.

... audience stirrs ... anger building ... riot police around the edge of the hall get twitchy.


... then ...

Steve laughs hysterically for 5 minutes straight. Audience eventually falls silent waiting for Steve to stop.

Steve: "Oh, you guys! Man, winding you up is like shooting fish in a barrel! Mwahahaa! No, seriously... here's the new iBook"

Screen goes blank. Steve *really* presses the power button this time. Audience then get treated to a completely ordinary, totally expected OS X bootup sequence, albeit with a slightly different, yet infinitely cooler startup chime.

Audience cheers :)
 
Well, I'm going to stay of this website until tuesday wednesday and watch the keynote without knowing whats going to happen! That way it will be like a surprise!
 
displaced said:
... I already know how the Intel-based iBook intro will go. Picture the scene...

MWSF conference hall. Steve's already shown the exterior of the iBook, and now turns to the demo unit hooked up to the giant screens...

"Now, let's show you what this thing's like. Let's start from a cold bootup..."

*Steve presses the power button*

Black screen. Then, instead of *daaaah!*, we hear a *beep*. Screen shows:

AWARD BIOS - Phoenix Technologies Ltd. Energy Star compliant

Apple iBook 2000MHz

... all in a glorious 8x8 pixel terminal font.

*audience gasps*... then..

*beep-beep*

No keyboard present. Press F1 to continue.

... audience stirrs ... anger building ... riot police around the edge of the hall get twitchy.


... then ...

Steve laughs hysterically for 5 minutes straight. Audience eventually falls silent waiting for Steve to stop.

Steve: "Oh, you guys! Man, winding you up is like shooting fish in a barrel! Mwahahaa! No, seriously... here's the new iBook"

Screen goes blank. Steve *really* presses the power button this time. Audience then get treated to a completely ordinary, totally expected OS X bootup sequence, albeit with a slightly different, yet infinitely cooler startup chime.

Audience cheers :)


That would be awesome.
 
displaced said:
... I already know how the Intel-based iBook intro will go. Picture the scene...

MWSF conference hall. Steve's already shown the exterior of the iBook, and now turns to the demo unit hooked up to the giant screens...

"Now, let's show you what this thing's like. Let's start from a cold bootup..."

*Steve presses the power button*

Black screen. Then, instead of *daaaah!*, we hear a *beep*. Screen shows:

AWARD BIOS - Phoenix Technologies Ltd. Energy Star compliant

Apple iBook 2000MHz

... all in a glorious 8x8 pixel terminal font.

*audience gasps*... then..

*beep-beep*

No keyboard present. Press F1 to continue.

... audience stirrs ... anger building ... riot police around the edge of the hall get twitchy.


... then ...

Steve laughs hysterically for 5 minutes straight. Audience eventually falls silent waiting for Steve to stop.

Steve: "Oh, you guys! Man, winding you up is like shooting fish in a barrel! Mwahahaa! No, seriously... here's the new iBook"

Screen goes blank. Steve *really* presses the power button this time. Audience then get treated to a completely ordinary, totally expected OS X bootup sequence, albeit with a slightly different, yet infinitely cooler startup chime.

Audience cheers :)

after this, i dont need to watch any keynotes!!!!
 
I think Macrumors is a great site, and its good to see that they have put an serious effort into handling the traffic load, but I think one area they could improve is the actually text content during a keynote!

I'm not sure if they were cutting down on the text content/frequency because of bandwidth, or if the person(s) are slow typers. Other websites I followed had a much more descriptive text during the keynote, and it makes a big difference, imo, of getting that feel/excitement for the keynote.

Just some feedback, again, kudos for Macrumors for having anything at all, it just seems like it could be better in this regard perhaps.
 
heisetax said:
Who really cares? Since Apple has become an iPod dominated company, I've stopped watching any of the keynotes. I don't need to watch & listen to Steve Jobs telling us stories only to find out that they wre lies, or does he always do 180degree changes in what is good?

Bill the TaxMan
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