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Apple sold 20 million iPhones last quarter... at over $600 each.

During that same time Apple only sold 8 million iPods at a much lower price (and no clue how it was divided among iPod Touch, Nano, etc)

Why would Apple make a bigger iPod Touch... now?

Also to compliment this, 9to5 says that Hard Candy is making 50 000 cases for an iOS device with a 4.5" screen. It clearly can't be the iPod Touch because it's the same teardrop design we've been seeing for the rumored iPhone 5.

To spur sales of new iPods. Remember all the slaggin about the iPod touch camera being so low res and Apple revealed it was a design compromise to keep the device so thin.

A tapered design would allow Apple to improve the camera, maintain some thinness, and compete against smaller tablets and help people who like to carry a feature phone and an iPod touch.

What I'd really like to see is a 3G iPod touch. That would sell like crazy.
 
I'm in Australia and I already know the results since I am from your future! I can't tell you however what happened or it will break the time / space continuation. Needless to say apple has a few surprises in store..

Not to mention the whishes of Apple, which would be a crime more severe.


To spur sales of new iPods. Remember al lthe slaggin about the iPod touch camera being so low res and it was design compromise to keep the device so thin.

A tapered design would allow Apple to improve the camera, maintain some thinness, and compete against smaller tablets and help people who like to carry a feature phone and an iPod touch.

What I'd really like to see is a 3G iPod touch. That would sell like crazy.

That maintained thinness would be useless, better to just bulk it evenly and use the extra space for an outstanding battery life
 
Yeah, fool all those developers you need to fill such a store with apps designed for televisions. They'll be so surprised when we open that empty store they could be selling things in!

Apple is done going that route.

Apple could release a 1080p AppleTV with iOS 5 and it will support iOS 5 games right out of the box.

Remember that little thing called AirPlay? No apps need to be built, only AirPlay API used.
 
I want this iPhone but I have a feeling the biggest announcement is going to be IOS 5 and Assistant which Android has had for years. You've caught up Apple congrats!
 
the thing that gets me about the whole LTE thing, and i'm sorry to sound a bit Bill Gates here, but who NEEDS more than 2 or 3 mbps into their iPhone ? even the 20 odd of HSPA+ seems too much.
 
I am wholely supportive of a 16GB model coming in at $99 since 8GB just isn't sufficient anymore for apps, music, and video. However, if the $99 model is a 16GB iPhone 4S, I can't see many people buying a 8GB iPhone 4 for $49. A pricing scheme of $49 8GB iPhone 4, $149/$249/$349 for 16GB/32GB/64GB iPhone 4S might work better.
 
Sis live

Great coverage for the company I work for there (SIS LIVE) :)
Looking forward and if the HSPA+ technology is what they say it is then it doesn't really matter about 4G...
 
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Why Covent Garden?
Why is the UK the only place getting a live stream
 
4g

No 4G, no iPhone for me. I don't mind the spec bumps and whatnot, but 4G is a must, pretty much every major smartphone is now 4G. C'mon Apple, don't disappoint :(
 
No 4G, no iPhone for me. I don't mind the spec bumps and whatnot, but 4G is a must, pretty much every major smartphone is now 4G. C'mon Apple, don't disappoint :(

So right now you own a 4G phone and have a 4G plan in your area?

Or, once the iPhone is announced without 4G, you're going to buy a 4G phone?
 
I own an LTE Mifi and can tell you that without a doubt LTE is not overrated. The speeds are great, I get around 10mbps in the Dallas area.

I see you have been rated down four times. Your post must be very offensive to some people. :mad:

Now seriously, I think LTE coverage is not enough to justify adding it to the iPhone at this point. On the other hand, in the recent patent auction Apple laid its hands on tons of LTE related patents, so they are definitely interested. On yet another hand, some article on theregister claimed that while LTE gives more maximum bandwidth to a single user, it doesn't actually provide much more total bandwidth in an area covered, which would make it less useful when fully adopted and more sensitive to bandwidth hogs. (I don't know whether this is true).


Apple sold 20 million iPhones last quarter... at over $600 each.

During that same time Apple only sold 8 million iPods at a much lower price (and no clue how it was divided among iPod Touch, Nano, etc)

Why would Apple make a bigger iPod Touch... now?

The target market for iPod Touch is "people with a bit of spare cash willing to spend it on a gadget". Within that target market, 20 million bought an iPhone in the last quarter, and if you have an iPhone, then buying an iPod Touch is basically pointless. That's why iPod Touch sales are going down, because lots of people in the target market have an iPhone (not that Apple is complaining too much).

A bigger iPod Touch would sell to some of these 20 million people; it would turn the iPod Touch into a mini-games console, so it gives you something that the iPhone doesn't. Now the numbers are tiny compared to the iPhone, but they could sell more than for example the new Amazon Kindle Fire and at a higher price.


Or nothing. He wouldn't be the first CEO to make a bad call. I'm not saying did not guess right, just that he made a gut decision based on non-Apple supplied info. It's like the articles state -- he is making a bet like putting a chip on red. We'll see if he gets a payoff in a few hours though.

Here's what I think Apple should do about leaks: Tell all the people in position to leak something: "If you are approached, tell us and we'll give you an iPhone to leak. It won't be like the real iPhone, obviously. Any bribes you can get out of them you can keep. On the other hand, should we catch you leaking details of the real iPhone, we'll cut your balls off".
 
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To the people saying "Apple won't disappoint us!" - Have you ever sat through an Apple product release at MacRumors before?

As a whole, this crowd is probably GUARANTEED to be disappointed by ANY Apple product release because the community here always hypes up the unreleased products into cancer-curing lightsaber-equipped devices that can pull down 90Gb/s over the new Apple cellphone network provided for $5/year... and now apparently even that's not good enough if it's not in a new case or redesigned body. :eek:
 
Stinks for CDMA users, but a good deal for AT&T and GSM users. EV-DO is limited to 3mbps. HSPA+ could be 21mbps/42mbps.

Of course, this means that AT&T can market their iPhone as being 4G capable and while Verizon and maybe Sprint will have the same exact model, it won't be 4G. Oh man this is gonna be a Apple salesperson nightmare when having to explain it to your typical customer.
 
No, the iPod Touch does not need an mute button!

Why? So you have to take out your ear buds, or jog the volume rocker down if someone talks to you while you're listening to music? It saves you from having to unlock, look at screen, and pause too. Actually, if they made it a mute/pause button, that would be nice.

I think the lack of LTE and WiMax were expected.

The interesting thing is WSJ isn not denying the redesigned iPhone 5 either. I would suspect that Apple would make a controlled leak/statement through WSJ before the event to say something along the lines of "our sources say that there is no redesigned iPhone 5".

Also to compliment this, 9to5 says that Hard Candy is making 50 000 cases for an iOS device with a 4.5" screen. It clearly can't be the iPod Touch because it's the same teardrop design we've been seeing for the rumored iPhone 5.

Apple has never cared about an anticipated/rumored redesign not being true. Every Apple product that is coming out gets hyped for a new design, and that rarely happens. So no. They aren't concerned about it disappointing people. If anything, they'd rather teach you a lesson for reading all the gossip sites.

Apple flat out said NO LTE till they were blue in the face, so if anyone thought it would be there and is disappointed, you deserve to be for this long trip you've taken on the river of denial.

Wi-Max however, I would have thought might be possible. The tech behind it wouldn't require compromises in design, but it would create manufacturing issues. For Sprint, that's a downer because having a 4G service (and no HSPA+) now has an issue when people come in and are between devices. Not that this won't get them traffic in the stores, or won't sell... but they'd be in the worse position with Verizon. Unless I'm wrong, Verizon does not offer HSPA+ either, right?
 
It's not about the hardware. It's about the biggest interface change since multitouch: talk to your phone.

"Let's talk iPhone"

i for one don't wnat to look like a dork talking to my phone when I want to change wifi settings or check email in a public place.this assistant thing is overrated.
 
Well, I guess that means my theory about the iPhone 5 being WiMax at first and LTE later might be wrong.

Meh. It happens.

So ... 4S only at the event, huh?
 
To the people saying "Apple won't disappoint us!" - Have you ever sat through an Apple product release at MacRumors before?

As a whole, this crowd is probably GUARANTEED to be disappointed by ANY Apple product release because the community here always hypes up the unreleased products into cancer-curing lightsaber-equipped devices that can pull down 90Gb/s over the new Apple cellphone network provided for $5/year... and now apparently even that's not good enough if it's not in a new case or redesigned body. :eek:

Exactly, the only thing guaranteed today is a whole lot of bi$#ing about the new specs. Followed by a wave of complaints at carriers that they are holding them to their ETF dates the agreed to and aren't eligible for the shiny new toy.

This has 3GS written all over it. An upgrade of internals and a few extra bells and whistles. But nothing that's a game changer. I'm sure that'll be the release next year when tons of people are rolling off their contract.
 
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