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No MacBook Pro Refresh Until Early Next Month?
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Why not sit tight for the next week and see what happens? If something is announced next week, you can decide if it is worth your while to return it or not.
Think there will be a price bump when the new design comes out?
Or will the 13" stay $1,199?
Do you think that the MBA 13" will take it's place and the MBP will only be 15" and 17"?
There is no Intel-hate here. I really don't care what CPU is in my Mac as long as it works right.
ARM represents a growing power, however, and quite conceivably a dominant supplier for Apple in the future.
http://www.wired.com/cloudline/2011...ure-of-the-ipad-and-possibly-the-macbook-air/
You don't need any credentials to see that MS is either a minor player or a non-player in nearly all the forward-looking, progressive consumer markets (save for gaming.)
On the very face of it, before any other analysis, anyone will notice that their smartphone platform is currently flopping, and has been judged as dependent entirely on Nokia's efforts from here on in. Beyond the WP7 situation, their Windows Mobile platform leaves behind a legacy of hard and fast failure, bordering on embarrassment.
Further, their tablet efforts have so far been a failure as well. Windows 8 on tablets is currently nothing more than a promise. There is no shipping product at this time. Sometime in 2012.
If you have a look at their quarterly results, you'll see some fairly disturbing trends that have already made themselves felt last year and were in the cards years before - trends which have put them firmly in Apple's rear-view and which have given Google far too much power and headroom on a silver platter. If you would like a point-for-point breakdown of where the issues are in their current quarterly report specifically, let me know.
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I think that's very possible. The 13" MBP is in an odd place vs. the 13" MBA, especially now the MBA has a backlit KB (which was recently, unique to the pro line).
The MBP 13 also doesn't have a better GPU (like the 15/17 pros), it has much slower storage performance (standard config), a _lower_ resolution display, and not much more in the way of ports. I'd also suspect that very few of them are ever upgraded over 4GB RAM, since it's kind of become the "entry level" machine for many people.
I'm probably going to sell the wife's and replace it with a 13" MBA, since she definitely is not using the optical, only need 4GB RAM and would really appreciate the improved portability of the Air.
I think if the 13" pro is going to remain, it needs to be a PRO. Update that display to at least the MBA spec, and stuff in a discreet GPU (I realize that last task is difficult because of space/heat/power issues...)
I see record profits and Windows 8 taking at least 25% of the tablet market within a year of release. Their smarphone market share will get a significant increase as soon as the Nokia phones get introduced to the market. Microsoft will instantly become a significant player in both of these markets. I'm not suggesting that they will overtake Apple, I just believe that they will take a big bit out of the tablet market and their smarphone market share will see a big increase-but that really isn't going to be hard to do since their market share is miniscule. A few million Nokia phones sold instantly double that.
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The 13" MBA is a great product, personally it is my favorite Apple product. I don't think you can go wrong with that purchase, and when the Ivy Bridge models are released, look out!!
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I still use a non unibody macbook from late 2007. But it's a beast as much as it can be, with 6 GB of ram, a 64 GB SSD and a 500 GB HDD. It has everything i need, and won't upgrade until apple gets some mSATA SSD + HDD inside.
I would hope they don't make it tapered like the MBA.
I say ditch the optical drive, enlarge the battery, cooling to get quad core, make a deal with intel to support SSD caching and offer three variants of MBPs
1. Just regular HDDs
2. Small (4-8 GB) SSD for caching plus regular HDD
3. Bigger SSD plus regular HDD.
I would hope they don't make it tapered like the MBA.
I say ditch the optical drive, enlarge the battery, cooling to get quad core, make a deal with intel to support SSD caching and offer three variants of MBPs
1. Just regular HDDs
2. Small (4-8 GB) SSD for caching plus regular HDD
3. Bigger SSD plus regular HDD.
early spring 2012 for Ivy Bridge MBP...
The Long Version: Apple must adhere to Intel's chipset release roadmap, and numerous public sources (1, 2, 3) have already confirmed that Ivy Bridge is due to arrive (initially for mobile computers) by Q2 of 2012, and since Apple usually has it's hands on an early batch of chips, barring any unforeseen manufacturing delays, all indications point to an Ivy Bridge powered MacBook Pro being released sometime between March-May of next year, most likely earlier within that timeframe than later.
Now, as for a new MBP form factor/case redesign is concerned, although most can't be 100% certain, based on Apple's product release history, it's most likely that the MBP will feature a new look, and in all probability similar to that of the MacBook Air. It's not a slam dunk that the "new look" MBP will debut as early as this coming spring, but it's most certainly going to occur at some point during 2012.
The Short Version: Yes, in all likelihood, by spring 2012 you can expected a total revamp of the MBP featuring Ivy Bridge.
The Long Version: Apple must adhere to Intel's chipset release roadmap, and numerous public sources (1, 2, 3) have already confirmed that Ivy Bridge is due to arrive (initially for mobile computers) by Q2 of 2012, and since Apple usually has it's hands on an early batch of chips, barring any unforeseen manufacturing delays, all indications point to an Ivy Bridge powered MacBook Pro being released sometime between March-May of next year, most likely earlier within that timeframe than later.
Now, as for a new MBP form factor/case redesign is concerned, although most can't be 100% certain, based on Apple's product release history, it's most likely that the MBP will feature a new look, and in all probability similar to that of the MacBook Air. It's not a slam dunk that the "new look" MBP will debut as early as this coming spring, but it's most certainly going to occur at some point during 2012.
The Short Version: Yes, in all likelihood, by spring 2012 you can expected a total revamp of the MBP featuring Ivy Bridge.
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With the rumored complete refresh next year coming probably in the Spring unless you just NEEDED a new laptop, I'd hold off.
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With the rumored complete refresh next year coming probably in the Spring unless you just NEEDED a new laptop, I'd hold off.
OMG, no update until next month? Did world just stop spinning for a minute?
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As long as it works as i want it to it makes no difference to me either.
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As long as it works as i want it to it makes no difference to me either.
So was I, notice the Smiley? People on here (especially LTD have been predicting the death of Microsoft for years.
Yeah same here, I'm waiting til next year even though I just got my current MBP back in May. I'm hoping they improve the keyboard backlight, way too much light leakage from the gaps around keys on mine, friends units, and several demo models I've seen. Apple dropped the ball on that one. I'm also hoping for flash storage or maybe even SSD!!!!
Agree
Not necessarily true. The Pro is for... the pro's and it will be more and more powerful. The Air is for mobility and it will be more and more portable. I don't think Apple will blur the distinctions. And that's what I hope too.
I myself like to have a Pro. Many others can afford both. Many even own both iPad 1 and iPad 2 at the same time (!?). And that's what Apple's investors love.
Cheers,
Nick
Personally, I'd like to see the MacBook line-up as follows; MBA 13", MBP 15", MBP 17". Apple just need to take it back to basics, because having the MBA, the 'White' and the 'Pro' models was just too much.
I need a new laptop in the next couple of months, so I'll be buying regardless, but I'm surprised that no one's hesitant to buy the next Ivy Bridge-based machines, given their rev-A status. IB sounds great on paper, and would tempt me if I had the choice of waiting, but with a new (rumoured) case design, I'd still want to wait until rev B. So, for me, it would be a case of buy now or wait 12-18 months, not buy now or wait until spring 2012.
The Ivy Bridge power consumption is going to be the killer feature of next year's model. I gotta hold out, which is extra painful because I just got a Thunderbolt display and can't use it with my 2010 MBP! Even with the monitor sitting idle I can't justify one of these mid-term refresh models when Ivy Bridge looks sooo good.
Sales are up for MS and doing just fine in office/windows etc.
So it is not consumers buying ultimately windows or office? Or those buyers are just not forward looking or progressive enough for you?
whats so amazing about the Ivy Bridge? is there a link that will tell me why its so good?
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That's why I specifically said "in all probability" as in it's not guaranteed to happen, but given Apple's m.o. it seems more likely than not that this will occur.
Also, I do understand your point about portability vs. power but, honestly, if you can have "the best of both worlds" of these two sensibilities fused into one system set-up, then what's not to like about that?
Personally, my money is on
revealing a 15" and 17" MacBook Air "Pro" in 2012. Finally.
That's why I specifically said "in all probability" as in it's not guaranteed to happen, but given Apple's m.o. it seems more likely than not that this will occur.
Also, I do understand your point about portability vs. power but, honestly, if you can have "the best of both worlds" of these two sensibilities fused into one system set-up, then what's not to like about that?
Personally, my money is on
revealing a 15" and 17" MacBook Air "Pro" in 2012. Finally.
Just noticed the upgrades are now showing on the online store (in the UK at least).
17" now 2.4GHz at same price as the old 2.2GHz with 2.5GHz CTO. Also graphics is now 6770M up from 6750.
17" now 2.4GHz at same price as the old 2.2GHz with 2.5GHz CTO. Also graphics is now 6770M up from 6750.
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