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You guys know that most computers bought within the last year or two qualify for iLife Up-to-Date, right?

It's only $19.95! Come on! New iMovie, iPhoto, and iDVD plus GarageBand for $19.95!

Plus, you can copy it from one computer to another (from CD or from new Mac), or borrow someone else's CD.

NOTE: THIS IS BREAKING THE EULA AND IS THEREFORE ILLEGAL.
 
Re: Re: I appreciate the link...

Originally posted by ipoddin
Those who bought Final Cut Express last year for $299 only have to pay $99 to upgrade to 2.0.

Actually, I'm irritated by this as well. I bought Final Cut Express for $99 only three months ago, and now I've got to pay an additional $99 to upgrade it? Ridiculous...

Why don't consumers have any rights as far as software is concerned?

Software upgrades should be free for the first 12 months after purchase.

Software upgrades should be reasonably priced (10-20% of the orignal price, at most).

Bug fixes and Patches should ALWAYS be free.
 
Re: Re: Re: Where will it end?

Originally posted by Torajima
And the version that came free on my Mac is broken. Why should I have to pay for Apple to fix it?

The iApps are not broken. They *do* have some limitations. All software does. Just because Apple adds or improves a feature, doesn't mean the previous version is "broken".

I wish the complainers around here would spend as much time complaining about *serious* problems in the world. Air pollution, political corruption, health care, etc.
 
Re: Re: Re: I appreciate the link...

Originally posted by Torajima
Software upgrades should be free for the first 12 months after purchase pricie.

Software upgrades should be reasonably priced (10-20% of the orignal price, at most).

Bug fixes and Patches should ALWAYS be free.

Well, when *you're* the CEO of a software company, I'll look forward to those policies.

On second thought, I won't hold my breath...
 
God your a sad bunch (well some of you), next week this forum wil be quiet cos' you'll of all paid 49 bucks and be happily discovering the many new features features of ilife, only to complain the week after when your new software does'nt work well. because you can't be bothered to maintain your system properly.
 
i was gonna point that out.
iMovie and iPhoto were advertised as "part" of Panther.
And since I paid for Panther, shouldn't I get the proper update for it?
I can understand about iDVD, but iMovie and iPhoto?
i don't care whether the price is right or not, it just doesn't make sense.

Originally posted by jouster
WRONG. It is specifically listed at the website as an OS feature.

http://www.apple.com/macosx/overview/

Read the side bar list on the right. What, is Java gonna be a paid app soon? Or Darwin? Or networking?

Hey, according to Apple, all of those, plus a lot more, are features.

Sure am looking forward to paying $49 for Darwin or Java. Hey, they're apps, given away when you buy the OS!
 
Re: Re: Expect to pay for Safari and iTunes next.

Originally posted by Ling
Ahem...iPod?

Yes, iPod. The iTMS is the only store you can download music from and play on your iPod.

Don't be surprised if Apple starts charging for newer versions of iTunes in order to pay for the store.
 
$50 is well worth it! All of the whiny, crying types here just make me sick.

I'll be ordering mine tomorrow. Thanks Apple for great software.
 
Re: Re: Re: I appreciate the link...

Originally posted by Torajima
Why don't consumers have any rights as far as software is concerned?

Software upgrades should be free for the first 12 months after purchase.

Software upgrades should be reasonably priced (10-20% of the orignal price, at most).

Give me a break. Software should cost what it costs developers to make it, plus profit to run the business and invest in future versions.
 
Apples Upgrade policy

This thread reminds me a lot of the dot Mac one when that broke cover. I was right royally pissed at losing my mac email address but Apple stuck to their guns and I stuck to mine. They never did get any cash out of me. I am over it now. Apple are relatively speaking a teeny company, far smaller than their reputation would suggest. These guys produce some great great software but they don't have a lot of financial breathing space. Their policy is that on the whole, upgrades will be bought and paid for as new products. No 'hey you can get this for 5 bucks if you bought the older one last month'.

We swallowed this pill with dot mac, and I am ok with it now. Having just spent the weekend going through yet another windows session with a close relative because the damn system wont work, I am very grateful Apple are out there. If you are a casual Mac user, you probably wont know that the updates are out there, or for that matter, macrumors.com. The guys who love it should have taken on board how the company plays the game by now and accept it, or go to the dark side. I spend far too much of my spare time hearing people run my Mac into the ground about an hour before they plead with me to fix their damn PC because it has died again. We need to keep that in mind. These apps are not made by tooth fairies, they are made by guys who have families to support, just like the rest of us.

Make do with what you have, like I do, or pay for the new version, or go with XP. That’s the choice....
 
Re: Re: iLife for Windows?

Originally posted by Some_Big_Spoon
"Free iLife" on all "new" macs is the bait for the switch.. for those of us that already purchased hardware (and the OS update) this is more money out of our pockets, should we choose to upgrade.

Does anyone here know the meaning of bait and switch, because that isn't it.

Bait and Switch means they advertise something and don't deliver it, instead coercing you to buy a different more expensive product.

Apple never promised lifetime iApp upgrades. They didn't bait anyone with something they didn't intend to sell. And they didn't attempt to coerce buyers into buying something else.
 
Man, Apple has got to be the only company I know of that can take software applications that were once free and start charging for them and then proceed to have minions of loyal mac users defend them for doing so.

They do have a unique and loyal customer base, no doubt.
 
Re: Re: Re: iLife for Windows?

Originally posted by hayesk
Does anyone here know the meaning of bait and switch, because that isn't it.

Bait and Switch means they advertise something and don't deliver it, instead coercing you to buy a different more expensive product.

Apple never promised lifetime iApp upgrades. They didn't bait anyone with something they didn't intend to sell. And they didn't attempt to coerce buyers into buying something else.

And on top of this, you still have the older versions to use. Apple delivered as promised, leave them alone.
 
Re: Re: Re: iLife for Windows?

Originally posted by hayesk
Does anyone here know the meaning of bait and switch, because that isn't it.

Bait and Switch means they advertise something and don't deliver it, instead coercing you to buy a different more expensive product.

Like say, advertising them as part of the $129 OS here then deciding that they're standalone apps, needing to be paid for, after all?

hmmmmm.....sounds like a bait and switch to me.
 
Re: Re: Re: Re: iLife for Windows?

Originally posted by jouster
Like say, advertising them as part of the $129 OS here then deciding that they're standalone apps, needing to be paid for, after all?

hmmmmm.....sounds like a bait and switch to me.

I'm sorry, they didn't promise you all future upgrades for free, is says that NOWHERE.
 
$49 for these apps is a STEAL

especially Garage Band, that was the show stopper today by far. I am in the market for a new mac, most likely an iBook G4, so I can still use my current ruby iMac with the older iPhoto. Some people just want everything for free--that's not the real world guys.
 
Re: Re: Re: iLife for Windows?

Read next time.. I posted a response to the post I quoted.. it was about the switchers campaign and wintel to mac switcher.. I then said that the iapps were part of the bait FOR THE SWITCH, not "bait and switch"..

lousy apple apologizers.. :mad:


Originally posted by hayesk
Does anyone here know the meaning of bait and switch, because that isn't it.

Bait and Switch means they advertise something and don't deliver it, instead coercing you to buy a different more expensive product.

Apple never promised lifetime iApp upgrades. They didn't bait anyone with something they didn't intend to sell. And they didn't attempt to coerce buyers into buying something else.
 
Re: Apples Upgrade policy

Originally posted by orangedv
This thread reminds me a lot of the dot Mac one when that broke cover. I was right royally pissed at losing my mac email address but Apple stuck to their guns and I stuck to mine. They never did get any cash out of me. I am over it now.

...

These apps are not made by tooth fairies, they are made by guys who have families to support, just like the rest of us.

Make do with what you have, like I do, or pay for the new version, or go with XP. That’s the choice....

Of all the comments criticizing the "whiners," yours is the most reasonable.

Both sides (Apple's and ours) are reasonable. We will all eventually get over it.

The people who simply don't see what the "whiners" are complaining about seem to me close-minded and much too impatient. At least the "whiners" recognize that there is room for disagreement over what is reasonable for people to expect. No one is suggesting upgrades for free for life -- everyone is qualifying their complaints by suggesting alternatives that would give Apple money while still making them happy (unbundle the apps, state definitively the period of time for free upgrades, don't advertise new iApps as part of Panther, etc.).

The people who summarily dismiss the "whiners" remind me of that picture of the crying baby. How dare we criticize Apple in any way! Go away to Linux! Don't play here any more! Wahhhh! Wahhhhh!
 
Re: Re: Re: Re: I appreciate the link...

Originally posted by hayesk
Give me a break. Software should cost what it costs developers to make it, plus profit to run the business and invest in future versions.

So, you think it's okay that consumers have absolutely no rights as far as software is concerned?

Generally:
You can't return software, even when it doesn't work properly.
You can't try it before you buy it.
You are forced to agree to whatever ridiculous user agreement they want to force upon you. Better agree to it, as it's too late to take the software back...
You are forced to upgrade, as often and at whatever price the companies arbitrarily set.
If you miss a single upgrade, you are often forced to repurchase the software at full price.
You must purchase multiple copies for both your desktop and laptop machine.
You must suffer thru painful copy protection schemes, even though they don't actully deter real pirates.

I could go on...
 
What was once a nice thing about owning a mac... having good tools built in to the OS. No more I guess. Bah.
 
Re: Re: Re: Re: iLife for Windows?

Originally posted by jouster
Like say, advertising them as part of the $129 OS here then deciding that they're standalone apps, needing to be paid for, after all?

hmmmmm.....sounds like a bait and switch to me.

Where did apple every say they were no longer going to bundle the apps with panther? im sure new discs will come with the new version. the new imovie was anounced 3 moths ago so you got what was avalable when you purchased panther.
 
"Idiots, Schucks, Morons and Whiners..."

- I just joined this board...but I'm now regretting that decision. I expected to see 'adult' debate and opinion here and instead it looks like many just want to insult those with differing opinions.

- What's the deal here? Can't we 'agree to disagree?' Isn't that what 'thinking differently' is all about?
 
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