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The picture quality is excellent. If you would have used it more than 2 minutes you would have noticed that Netflix starts out with bad quality and within a few moments clears up. The reason is so the show can start quickly before adapting to your connection quality.

I own both but we tend to use Roku most. We've found it to be the most reliable and it has vastly more content

Well it just wasn't Netflix. In fact I tried the roku3 on both my plasma and lcd TVs and the outcome was the same. Plus the netflix interface is just not as good as the ATV. Very satisfied with ATV over Roku
 
I love my AppleTV and it serves its purpose splendidly. But, rather like buying underpants, I can't get excited about it.

I have an AppleTV on each of my four tvs.
Who said the family unit was a thing of the past...?
 
channels are duds.

Really understand that Apple doesnt need to upgrade the Apple TV. There really is no competition that can compare to how easy and good it works. All it need is just some software upgrade, and I'm happy!
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Other than the stations available from every cable companies without the problems of WI-FI...."connecting"....indefinately.
Most of these little stations broadcast media not worth watching and many require a subscription.
This entire process of watching TV is just not ready yet plus no mention of 1080 P picture.
 
Yep, bonkers not to have iPlayer on it. BBC seem happy to work with anyone and everyone as well.

My understanding is that the iPlayer is 'catchup TV' funded by TV license paying customers in the UK. I think that is the reason why it is blocked outside the UK, and you have to use VPN or a similar workaround to get to it in the US, for example.
I don't see it being offered in the US App Store or on the Apple TV any time soon.
 
There really isn’t any need for that. Mac OS is an open system. Any content provider is already free to develop their own app without sharing any revenue with Apple. Or to develop a web-based interface that’s multi-platform. And of course Apple already has iTunes for the content they sell.

If Apple were to do it, I think it would just be a different UI mode in iTunes ideal for couchsurfing. Like Big Picture Mode on Steam, or even Apple's now-defunct Front Row.
 
Why is the Watch and an actual Apple TV two devices people all the sudden must have?

Because many of us already have just about everything else Apple makes and it would be nice to see something new.

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My understanding is that the iPlayer is 'catchup TV' funded by TV license paying customers in the UK. I think that is the reason why it is blocked outside the UK, and you have to use VPN or a similar workaround to get to it in the US, for example. I don't see it being offered in the US App Store or on the Apple TV any time soon.

There is a BBC iPlayer Global App for iPad available outside the UK. At the moment I think it's only available in some European countries, but I would expect the BBC to role it out elsewhere over time.

The BBC is under pressure to keep down the cost of the Licence Fee we are all forced to pay in the UK, hence they are actively looking for alternative revenue streams.

The problem is that the BBC sells the rights to broadcast it's programmes to networks in other countries (such as BBC America) so it's going to be somewhat complicated.
 
My understanding is that the iPlayer is 'catchup TV' funded by TV license paying customers in the UK. I think that is the reason why it is blocked outside the UK, and you have to use VPN or a similar workaround to get to it in the US, for example.
I don't see it being offered in the US App Store or on the Apple TV any time soon.

I am in the UK. Funnily enough there is more to the world than America.

As a UK customer I can't use any of the US geoblocked services. I also have zero interest in NBA or other US sports.

The UK is a pretty big market - I think it is the most valuable market for Apple outside the US.
 
Hoping we see an Airplay Direct (use similar tech to airdrop possibly, and the obvious NAS support.

How about a mega NAS-style genuine iTunes server box? Yes, we can do it now but it is not that easy for home users. Between that and and off-site iTunes Match Apple's advantage would be ubiquity.

External storage capability please! Really miss stored content like the first generation unit had.

Same here, I want external storage (on my internal network). Either directly connected storage (via the existing USB port), or network based.

I'd imagine quite a few of is would be OK with having to use an Apple Airport (which I do anyway :) ), and it providing the software layer between the storage and the consumption device (AppleTV, iOS devices).

Heck, they could easily implement this in their own product as well: Time Capsule re-engineered as a Media Capsule, you can connect to it through the network directly, or update iTunes where you can easily select your library storage location (and let it broadcast its availability).
 
This is actually the best case scenario for the owner of an Apple TV2G...don't have to buy new HW. UNLESS...the SW update ONLY works on the AppleTV3G.

Nah...Apple would never obsolete their own HW...:rolleyes:
 
Good article.Some interesting points:
HALF the Roku total was from the previous 16 months.Since it was introduced in 2008,that's a healthy acceleration.

Roku's figures are US only,Apple's are global.

Considering Apple's name recognition and ecosystem,and the fact that most people would say"What's a Roku",I'd say they are serious competition,but not huge.As I said,I have both.Their strengths and weaknesses compliment each other well.Both are great devices.

Not sure those figures are accurate, in May this year Apple claimed they'd sold over 13m AppleTVs, with about half in the last 12 months.

Either way, it's obviously a market that's rapidly heating up, for all the players involved. It'll be interesting to see what impact the next-gen games consoles - which obviously are part media-consoles as well - will have when they launch.
 
Not a single thing on your list would affect ATV performance whatsoever.

  • A6/A7 would allow you to...move your selector faster?
  • gigabit ethernet / 802.11ac would improve...nothing. Your broadband internet is the bottle neck (at roughly 5-50 Mbps)
  • more flash storage would...let you buffer more video in case your internet suddenly dies?
  • usb 3.0 would let you...do nothing that AirPlay can't already do.

The faster gigabit ethernet and gigabit wifi would allow AirPlay to work better. No Internet bottleneck there.
 
I am in the UK. Funnily enough there is more to the world than America.

As a UK customer I can't use any of the US geoblocked services. I also have zero interest in NBA or other US sports.

The UK is a pretty big market - I think it is the most valuable market for Apple outside the US.

Fair point. Apple really should differentiate ATV content based on country. In that case, a BBC iPlayer app on UK Apple TVs would be welcome.
 
What i'd like added to Apple TV

I'd like to be able to pick which cable channels I'd like to have streamed through Apple TV. I quit Time Warner cable because I got tired of being forced to buy packages of channels I'm not interested in just to see the one channel I am interested in. It would be nice to open iTunes to cable channels and subscribe to them on a monthly basis. Would be nice to see MSNBC, Free Speech TV or AlJazzera without having to be forced to buy a package with CNN and Fox.
 
If Apple were to do it, I think it would just be a different UI mode in iTunes ideal for couchsurfing. Like Big Picture Mode on Steam, or even Apple's now-defunct Front Row.

What business need would it serve for Apple, considering there’d be no buy-in from other content distributors?
 
I was hoping that version 3 would have been jailbroken by now. I'd like to stream my entire collection of videos from my NAS without having to convert them. Apple should open up Apple TV a bit like they did with the iPhone. Less reason to Jailbreak and more reason to get one for each TV set.

I believe Plex does that.
 
Amazon Cloud gives your 250K songs in addition to Amazon purchases. I have 115,000 songs in iTunes and desperately want to use Match but don't want to carve out different libraries. I would even pay $25 per unit of 25K songs if they would let me.

+1. I've been asking for this, repeatedly, since the day the limit came out. I subscribe to Amazon's program for this reason. Amazon works well once your music is on their servers, but the uploading software is a dog, there is NO syncing (change some metadata and you now have two copies of your songs), their web interface blows, etc. Let's hope that iTunes Radio suggests changes coming for Match.

How about a mega NAS-style genuine iTunes server box? Yes, we can do it now but it is not that easy for home users. Between that and and off-site iTunes Match Apple's advantage would be ubiquity.

People have asked for this for a very long time. I think it would be relatively easy for Apple to make an iOS-running NAS that served music/video throughout your home - but I don't see it coming as they want you using iCloud/iTunes/Match as your "home server". I have a Drobo 5N (with Plex) and it works great to everything BUT my AppleTV's. A Plex app on ATV would obviously fix this issue.
 
What business need would it serve for Apple, considering there’d be no buy-in from other content distributors?

It would just be a way to improve media watching on the computer, and thus, iTunes. A front row like interface makes more since now than it did when it was released, now that we have huge 27" iMacs.
 
My guess is that Apple will continue to slowly roll-out apps from each content provider. First it was ESPN and HBO/Cinemax, then Disney. Soon, The CW. Each provider gets used as pressure for the next provider to get on board. For now, you need to have these channels on your cable package, but this is laying the groundwork to rope in more and more content providers - and someday the providers start offering subscriptions a la carte ("free with your cable package or $X.99/month").

My hope is that Apple opens up an App Store and the floodgates burst. I think that a $199 ATV with 32GB of storage and an A7X would be amazing - especially if Apple releases a controller case that turns an iPhone/iPod touch into a BT (or WiFi) connected controller that puts the WiiU controller to shame. Rather than one dedicated $500 game system in one room, every TV in the house would have an ATV and you could just take your controller room to room. If you want to play multiplayer on separate TV's in the house, done.
 
Software Update is very good news. I recently bought an used Apple TV 3th Generation from ebay for 80€. I am very happy with it. I stream movies from my MacBook Air Late 2012 or games from my iPad 4.
 
My cable modem has 4 ethernet ports. I have my mini, my Apple tv and my airport express plugged into it.
Movies and music is all streamed from the mini and starts instantly because of the wired connection. But any other devices can stream and control the aTv over the wifi network from the express.
If your modem doesn't have ethernet ports, just get a 4 port router/switch and stick it between the modem and your express/base station.
yeh I thought about doing something like that but the problem is that my cable modem is in another room where my desktop computer is (not an uncommon situation btw). running an ethernet cable from there to the living room is really inconvenient as in order to keep it from being ridiculously long I'd either have to run it over the ceiling (looks really ugly) or cut through a few walls (too much trouble). So I've just been hoping that faster WiFi and bigger flash storage on new ATV would make all that unnecessary.
 
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