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NFC isn't needed, because Apple isn't adopting it's technolgoy yet. Thats why America isn't adopting it very well.

If Apple, the biggest innovator isn't going with NFC, than it's clearly not as good a technology as the rest of the world thinks, and it's probably better that this Major overhaul of the iphone doesn't include it.

Apple should invent their own standard and lock it down from everyone else. That way, you know everythign you do is completely secure as it will go through Apples own servers.

And Minor revision? hwo is the iphone 5 only a minor one? It's bringing us a whole new screen with all new dimensions not used in any other Apple product. I look forward to buying new versions of Apps so i can enjoy them in widescreen splendor.

And a new dock connector! Thats an insanely HUGE change. I'm excited to see all the brand new clock radio's with it.



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Unfortunately it makes this one look like a minor update...

It's plenty for me. I'm upgrading from an iPhone 4.

I'll get a better camera, faster processor, bigger screen, Siri, LTE, turn-by-turn directions, and 3D maps. All of these things matter to me, to varying degrees.

If they don't matter to you, then that's one thing that doesn't really matter to me.
 
If NFC will not find it's way into new iPhone, I will probably wait one more year for my first touchscreen phone. I live in the Europe and NFC is everywere - in a shops, public transportation, garage doors and parking meters, etc. I use it daily. Because almost all new Android phones have this feature I've beeh really hoping that next iPhone will have this as well. The problem is that I already holding purchase of new phone for almost a year and there is a high probability that I will be unable to wait more and will just buy something on Windows Phone 8 (I don't like Android). So is it look like the iPhone era is over and iPhone is not a best phone in the world?
 
I'm pretty sure it has NFC. Take a look at the Apple patent for NFC and you'll see a little rectangle right in the front, top of the phone.

http://www.patentlyapple.com/patently-apple/tech-nfc/page/2/

Tell me that doesn't look exactly like what we see in the leaked photos. And, it's not just one patent, it's several that depict it looking just like that.

Another possibility is the case itself. Note how the back panel is machined in a pattern that looks remarkably similar to an RFID chip. May be coincidence, I certainly do see the patent for that aspect, but it's something to consider.
 
If NFC will not find it's way into new iPhone, I will probably wait one more year for my first touchscreen phone. I live in the Europe and NFC is everywere - in a shops, public transportation, garage doors and parking meters, etc. I use it daily. Because almost all new Android phones have this feature I've beeh really hoping that next iPhone will have this as well. The problem is that I already holding purchase of new phone for almost a year and there is a high probability that I will be unable to wait more and will just buy something on Windows Phone 8 (I don't like Android). So is it look like the iPhone era is over and iPhone is not a best phone in the world?

The iPhone may not be the phone for you, but that doesn't mean the iPhone era is over. We'll hear about the sales numbers later this year, and your choice of which phone to buy will be one point among many millions.
 
It's plenty for me. I'm upgrading from an iPhone 4.

I'll get a better camera, faster processor, bigger screen, Siri, LTE, turn-by-turn directions, and 3D maps. All of these things matter to me, to varying degrees.

Better camera and faster processor is to be expected, You could buy the 4S and get the things you have listed. The bigger screen is a compromise and won't be any good until the apps are ready for it - some of them will look worse or have less information in landscape-mode. Siri is useless in most (if not all) of Europe. LTE will be good, if Apple doesn't ****** this up like the new iPad. The maps application may be ok if You are in New York or the 4-5 other cities it actually covers - it lacks so much functionality that it will take more than one update cycle (let's not kid ourselves - it will take years) to replace what is lost - take Tokyo as an example... going from this:
http://i.imgur.com/9YmhE.jpg
to this:
http://i.imgur.com/5NpYG.jpg

You really need to be drinking the Apple kool-aid if You think this is a step forward.

If they don't matter to you, then that's one thing that doesn't really matter to me.

Ok, I see you are...
 
Unfortunately it makes this one look like a minor update...

Although NFC would've been very nice addition, it is a chicken-and-egg type of feature. Without mass adoption, merchants will not adopt. Without merchant support, the feature is essentially useless.

And frankly, the ability to perform direct financial transactions with my phone is not something that is super high on my wish list. Things like LTE, faster performance, 1GB RAM, taller screen, improved battery life, and improved reception, on the other hand, would.
 
I'm pretty sure it has NFC. Take a look at the Apple patent for NFC and you'll see a little rectangle right in the front, top of the phone.

http://www.patentlyapple.com/patently-apple/tech-nfc/page/2/

Tell me that doesn't look exactly like what we see in the leaked photos. And, it's not just one patent, it's several that depict it looking just like that.

Another possibility is the case itself. Note how the back panel is machined in a pattern that looks remarkably similar to an RFID chip. May be coincidence, I certainly do see the patent for that aspect, but it's something to consider.

That is a good point. I guess if anyone is going to re-engineer the NFC antenna to make it work in a smaller space, it's Apple.
 
Although NFC would've been very nice addition, it is a chicken-and-egg type of feature. Without mass adoption, merchants will not adopt. Without merchant support, the feature is essentially useless.

And frankly, the ability to perform direct financial transactions with my phone is not something that is super high on my wish list. Things like LTE, faster performance, 1GB RAM, taller screen, improved battery life, and improved reception, on the other hand, would.

I don't disagree with you on that - and it's an update when compared to both the 4 and 4S. NFC is widely adopted where i am so it's a priority for me, and it would have the added benefit of steering me clear of Google. I still feel a little "cheated" about this one, also because the design is a mess.
 
The maps application may be ok if You are in New York or the 4-5 other cities it actually covers - it lacks so much functionality that it will take more than one update cycle (let's not kid ourselves - it will take years) to replace what is lost - take Tokyo as an example... going from this:
http://i.imgur.com/9YmhE.jpg
to this:
http://i.imgur.com/5NpYG.jpg

You really need to be drinking the Apple kool-aid if You think this is a step forward.



Ok, I see you are...

I'm guessing Google Maps will be available via a Map. I think they pretty much already said it would (too lazy to go look it up).
 
NFC payments in the UK are commonplace. PayPass technology found on most modern debit cards can also be applied to NFC enabled mobile devices.

In central London, pretty much ALL food retailers have it (Pret, EAT, Yo Sushi etc.) and about 50% of independent newsagents and shops have contactless payments set up now.

Also, not forgetting transport. TFL are already getting set up for NFC payments using its Oyster Card system.

So yeah, at least in relatively modern cities, contactless payments are pretty old-hat.

Whether or not Apple decide now is the time for them to get involved will be revealed soon enough, but I certainly don't think this is a technology that's going to fade away. The term 'cashless society' has been floating around for years and I think it's simply the next logical progression for smaller day-to-day transactions.

Feel free to put your head in the sand and shout about how you don't like it, but sooner or later, that's going to be how you pay for things whether you like it or not!

Anyway, back to the picture - there's plenty of tech smartarses round here, so if that chip isn't NFC what IS it?!

And what of the fact it's sat right next to that 'hole' that matches almost exactly that fingerprint reader that was flagged up a week or so ago?

In my neck of the Woods (Cumbria) I can't honest say I've seen any NFC payment equipment.

I did see in my local M&S store this afternoon that they have had new credit card terminals which I thought at first were going to allow a smartphone with an NFC chip to be able to pay for things with it. But from what I can gather they are for contactless payment via certain credit card and debit cards. I know if NFC payments were available in my area, then I would definitely use it.

Here's a picture of one of the terminals I am referring to.

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Another possibility is the case itself. Note how the back panel is machined in a pattern that looks remarkably similar to an RFID chip..

I noticed this as well. There are should be a reason why they decided to change CNC mill path in order to form that area. Maybe a case is thinner in that spot? If yes, then why? Could be a possibility that so thin case will be able to propagate NFC radiowaves? Or, perhaps, back side of the case made of some sort of ceramic?
 
Better camera and faster processor is to be expected, You could buy the 4S and get the things you have listed. The bigger screen is a compromise and won't be any good until the apps are ready for it - some of them will look worse or have less information in landscape-mode. Siri is useless in most (if not all) of Europe. LTE will be good, if Apple doesn't ****** this up like the new iPad. The maps application may be ok if You are in New York or the 4-5 other cities it actually covers - it lacks so much functionality that it will take more than one update cycle (let's not kid ourselves - it will take years) to replace what is lost - take Tokyo as an example... going from this:
http://i.imgur.com/9YmhE.jpg
to this:
http://i.imgur.com/5NpYG.jpg
I'm not in Europe very often (just a weekend or two a year), so that won't factor in my decision. Many of the Apps I use most often will be updated quickly enough. Since I like the bigger screen, I would regret locking myself into the 4S for another two years.

Apple's maps will suit my needs most of the time, and they will get better as time goes on. Since the integrated maps on the iPhone will be Apple's maps whether I get the 4S or the new iPhone, that doesn't influence my decision. I'll decide based on the differences, like LTE and the screen size. Possibly battery life. We'll have to see what Apple announces on the 12th.

You really need to be drinking the Apple kool-aid if You think this is a step forward.



Ok, I see you are...

I'm not drinking your grape Flavor Aid.
 
I'm pretty sure it has NFC. Take a look at the Apple patent for NFC and you'll see a little rectangle right in the front, top of the phone.
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Another possibility is the case itself. Note how the back panel is machined in a pattern that looks remarkably similar to an RFID chip. May be coincidence, I certainly do see the patent for that aspect, but it's something to consider.

You have a good point. Plus theyve moved the headphone jack which saves space and also the facetime camera. These could easily be innocent cosmetic changes but they both save space where the nfc chip is depicted in the patents
 
The bigger screen is a compromise and won't be any good until the apps are ready for it - some of them will look worse or have less information in landscape-mode.

Huh? How would a display with 1136x640 landscape resolution have less information than a display with 960x640?
 
In my neck of the Woods (Cumbria) I can't honest say I've seen any NFC payment equipment.

I did see in my local M&S store this afternoon that they have had new credit card terminals which I thought at first were going to allow a smartphone with an NFC chip to be able to pay for things with it. But from what I can gather they are for contactless payment via certain credit card and debit cards. I know if NFC payments were available in my area, then I would definitely use it.

Here's a picture of one of the terminals I am referring to.

Phones with NFC can be used with these systems once certified.
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Apple (or NFC) doesn't need to make it's own systems it can just use the ones the credit card companies are building out. They could just include the function and leave it up to 3rd Party Dev's to build the software to interface.

You can already buy a neat iPhone case with NFC. http://www.icarte.ca/

Funny thing in Australia a number of bank executives have been talking up NFC and contactless payment as part of a big push. All mentioning it will be built in to your next smartphone.
 
Sure looks like the front facing camera to me!

I would make much more sense that this is the front facing camera. If you take apart the iPhone 4 or 4S it is in the exact same position as it picture. Further more in order for Apple to make the iPhone thinner, some components will have to be secured to something other than the midframe assembly.

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With Apple having announced its new Passbook digital wallet for iOS 6, speculation regarding the potential for the incorporation of near field communications (NFC) in the next-generation iPhone has ramped up. The technology would allow for contactless payments that could be closely incorporated into the Passbook functionality. Rumors of NFC capabilities for the next-generation iPhone received another boost of speculation after photos of an assembled front panel surfaced showing an unknown square feature that Japanese blog Macotakara said was part of the NFC system for the device.

As part of an extensive analysis of likely features for the next iPhone, AnandTech laid out the case for why NFC is unlikely to appear in the device.
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Next-generation iPhone front panel with feature incorrectly claimed to be for NFC (boxed in red)
The well-connected Jim Dalrymple has now added his perspective on the matter, sharing a simple "Yep" confirming that AnandTech was correct in its conclusion: There will be no NFC capabilities in the forthcoming iPhone.

Article Link: No NFC in Next-Generation iPhone
 
I would make much more sense that this is the front facing camera. If you take apart the iPhone 4 or 4S it is in the exact same position as it picture. Further more in order for Apple to make the iPhone thinner, some components will have to be secured to something other than the midframe assembly.

Front facing camera is moving above the earpiece. It's not the camera.
 
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