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No NFC Payment System in iPhone 5, Pushed to iPhone 6?
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I took a small screen cap of your post and added an alert in iCal for mid June to remind me to IM you when the iPhone 5 w/ 4 inch screen is released. See you in three months.
Two things, first the product names are not final. Here is my take.
New iPhone for 2011: iPhone 4G, same form factor, new hardware and 4G chip-set
New iPhone for 2012: iPhone 5, new form factor, NFC and a few other surprises
Second, there is a lot of research being done on "non-fiscal / non-identity NFC" right now. Here are some prototypes you can read about on different websites.
* Business cards with NFC chips embedded in them so you can hand out a business card, tap it on a smart-phone and get photos, brochures and URLs from it.
* Stickers with NFC chips so you can tag a location and IO data from them.
* Parts or products with NFC chips built in so you can read a history of them.
* CD or DVDs with NFC chips embedded inside to verify it is the original factory print and not a ripped copy
RFID for transactions and identity has not been successful and the public is not giving way to allow it. Thus the basic technology (probably re-branded RF-data or RF-flash) is simply transferring data via radio waves at high speed across a very short range of less than an inch.
This will be huge. It is better to wait and get it right. I am actually looking forward to this for proximity based authentication instead of payments. Imagine just holding an iPhone the required distance from another iPhone and dragging a photo over to it.
QR codes can do all of that much cheaper. And are fake DVDs really that much of a problem?
Apple do need to put a lot of effort into the next iOS and iPhone. Android is catching up FAST, some even saying that it is already better than iOS 4.3. It would be really disappointing for Android to succeed iOS!!
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What if it isn't??? I think "jav5464" should add an alert in iCal to alert you if there isn't a 4" screen. However, it would be great to have one on the next iPhone!
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What features I-Phone 2011 will probably have
- 60% Near field communication
- 80% same casing size, bigger (seamless) screen
- 30% same screen, smaller casing
- 70% A5 processor
- 60% better battery
- 20% longer battery life
- 40% better photo camera
- 10% better video camera
- 0% no Home button
- 5% no Dock Connector
- 5% Thunderbolt port
- 10% Micro USB port
- 90% Micro USB per Dock Connector adaptor
- 40% Thunderbolt per Dock Connector adaptor
- 30% other digital AV out per Dock Connector
- 20% 100+ GB storage
- 5% SD card slot
- 95% iOS 5
- 60% better notification system
- 15% new GUI design
- 25% wireless syncing
- 5% week view in Calendar
- 10% Lion-only features
- 5% touch-sensitive back
- 5% (pseudo) 3D display
- 0% more HW buttons
- 0% matte (non-glare) display
- 0% integrated digital broadcast receiver (ATSC, DVB, ISDB, D[A|M]B[+], DRM, )
- 40% I-Tunes / Mobile Me media cloud
- 20% more expensive
- 60% same prices
- 20% cheaper
No NFC? What's the big deal? NFC can be incorporated into a SIM anyway which does have its advantages.
Yep. Been using the Octopus card in Hong Kong everytime l make a trip there. That way l just load up the money that I want to spend so I don't have to carry my cards, although I normally carry a credit card just in case.
NFC is old news in these countries while the west is playing catchup.
Good call! I was looking forward to NFC payment via iPhone to replace my Visa wave credit card, but if Apple are going to take a cut, it'll be hard to get my local coffee shop to accept the iPhone as payment
You can really tell the people who've been to these countries and understand that it is used apart from the people who have no clue.
NFC is needed if Apple wants to compete with Android
Apple needs to have this. In places like Japan, NFC is used often and are available in their Android phones and even their regular phones. Smartphones in Japan are taking off like crazy right now and Apple is already at a disadvantage not being on Docomo or KDDI au, so they need this.
Here are just a few of the Android phones in Japan that are NFC capable:
http://www.au.kddi.com/english/seihin/ichiran/smartphone/is04/index.html
http://www.au.kddi.com/english/seihin/ichiran/smartphone/is05/index.html
http://www.au.kddi.com/english/seihin/ichiran/smartphone/is03/index.html
That's only on au, there's still the biggest carrier, Docomo. With Lady Gaga pushing Android on au and Ken Watanabe and Darth Vader pushing on Docomo, there is stiff competition.
I'm not saying that the next iPhone needs these too, but many phones also support InfraRed and 1seg TV; two things that are highly used in Japan.
Apple needs to have this. In places like Japan, NFC is used often and are available in their Android phones and even their regular phones. Smartphones in Japan are taking off like crazy right now and Apple is already at a disadvantage not being on Docomo or KDDI au, so they need this.
Here are just a few of the Android phones in Japan that are NFC capable:
http://www.au.kddi.com/english/seihin/ichiran/smartphone/is04/index.html
http://www.au.kddi.com/english/seihin/ichiran/smartphone/is05/index.html
http://www.au.kddi.com/english/seihin/ichiran/smartphone/is03/index.html
That's only on au, there's still the biggest carrier, Docomo. With Lady Gaga pushing Android on au and Ken Watanabe and Darth Vader pushing on Docomo, there is stiff competition.
I'm not saying that the next iPhone needs these too, but many phones also support InfraRed and 1seg TV; two things that are highly used in Japan.
I'd rather see NFC become more common. At each moment you use your credit card physically, there's a risk of skimming. I think the system is honestly completely idiotic. You shouldn't need to physically use this stuff in devices that you are free to tamper with when personnel aren't paying attention. And it's getting common too.
The IT equivalent to this would be having to show a bank account user name and password to a cashier each time you were to pay for something. And hope the cashier was a good guy and no one had installed a webcam to record it (read: skimming equipment).
There's no thought of security anywhere, except where you pay by the chip on the credit card instead of the magnetic strip. Credit cards with magnetic strips should at least be outlawed. It'd save us a whole lot of trouble in the long run although the transition period would be annoying. But I'd personally be willing to put up with that.
Welcome to the club!!! We were waiting for you.
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NFC would be a great feature, but it is not a killer feature at least in North America. I would prefer 128Gb of Storage, but we might not see it this year.
does it have to be? It's a benefit, which Apple doesn't seem to figure out how attain in the upcoming phone. Others will have it.. they won't. As you can tell, Apple rarely does anything game-changing after release of 1.0 or a 2.0.
NFC promises to be an easier way to do business. Maybe from that aspect, it is a game changer. Card swipers on phones have helped some vendors tremendously. I'm sorry you don't understand how this can help.
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If not iPhone 6 then maybe iPhone 29?
This reporting is becoming laughable.
If not iPhone 6 then maybe iPhone 29?
This reporting is becoming laughable.
I can see that. I should have clarified. Every card I use has the RF chip. It's just a matter of taking out my little wallet sleeve that has my card, tapping it, and I am done. It's easier than taking out the phone, loading the app, swiping, etc... Plus, What if my phone runs low on battery?
I guess I can see it as an incremental step forward. But it's #1,000 or lower on my top things that would stop me from getting an iPhone 5...lol.
