The doubling of performance will be noticeable in apps that use it. If all you do is check email and surf the web, those pages will only render so fast.
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iPad No perceivable performance difference between iPad 4 and Air.
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Plastic back? What have you been smoking?[/QUOTE]
It felt plastic and didn't feel solid like my 4 and believe me I really like Apple products. I'll have to have another look when I'm back at the mall later in the week.
Plastic back? What have you been smoking?[/QUOTE
It felt plastic and didn't feel solid like my 4 and believe me I really like Apple products. I'll have to have another look when I'm back at the mall later in the week.
Yah i agree. It felt fragile and not too solid of a screen, and the screen was blueish all over. I'm returning it tomorrow. Going to stick with my ipad 3 until my Applecare runs out in March, then going to buy a refurb 4 from Apple directly (with the 1 yr warranty and new battery included). I love the more solid and substantial feeling of the 3&4's.
Yeah, don't listen to people nitpick, these will complain that water is too wet if they get a chance.
The stuttering is iOS 7 (the main one I notice is using the pinch gesture to go back to home screen from app). It's the same on a iPad 3 as on the 4 (a 2x difference also), so I'm not that surprised it's acting the same. I suspect there's a problem pre-drawing the home screen and it needs to read from flash storage (I don't believe its read access time has improved much, if any).
Compared to the 4, here the Air has a wifi range improvement.
I find tapping the Air screen does sound louder and lower quality.
Some sounds coming from the speaker also sound lower quality ,
the key clicks, camera shutter, lock sounds, etc.
Scrolling on the Air is slower or has more resistance in Safari compared to the 4 on iOS 6 but page loading is faster on the Air.
The brighter white theme of iOS 7 is a step back for night time use,
I end up going to accessibility and turning on invert colours just to tone down
the brightness.
One key program I use is iMovie. It's features have been greatly improved with the iOS 7 version and a quick 720p render test showed it to be very fast on the Air.
The size and lower weight is a big advantage of the Air but the 3 fold Smart Cover is less useful than the old 4 fold style.
So I do see clear differences between the 4 on iOS 6 and Air on 7.
I find tapping the Air screen does sound louder and lower quality.
Some sounds coming from the speaker also sound lower quality ,
the key clicks, camera shutter, lock sounds, etc.
Scrolling on the Air is slower or has more resistance in Safari compared to the 4 on iOS 6 but page loading is faster on the Air.
The brighter white theme of iOS 7 is a step back for night time use,
I end up going to accessibility and turning on invert colours just to tone down
the brightness.
One key program I use is iMovie. It's features have been greatly improved with the iOS 7 version and a quick 720p render test showed it to be very fast on the Air.
The size and lower weight is a big advantage of the Air but the 3 fold Smart Cover is less useful than the old 4 fold style.
So I do see clear differences between the 4 on iOS 6 and Air on 7.
Hmm I also thought about upgrading to the Air behause my
IPad 4 just is Not smooth and silk as my iphone 5s which is really incredible fast in ios 7.
E.g. The Animation in iMessage, Animation in Game Center, Animation in safari if You Set in google the search options etc...
So you experience this also on your air?
IPad 4 just is Not smooth and silk as my iphone 5s which is really incredible fast in ios 7.
E.g. The Animation in iMessage, Animation in Game Center, Animation in safari if You Set in google the search options etc...
So you experience this also on your air?
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It's fairly well known/rumoured that the iPad builds of iOS7 are lagging behind the iPhone ones in terms of stability and performance. I think Apple had more issues than they bargained on during the beta process and had to focus on getting the iPhone builds solid for the launch in September so the iPad wasn't focused on quite so much.
It would appear that these issues are still extant. The 7.0.1/2/3 releases were simply bug fixes and no major changes. I suspect there's a 7.1 build in the offing which will offer some fixes for the iPad performance issues.
It's clearly software rather than hardware. If you use both the home button and pinch gesture to return to the home screen, the former is perfectly smooth whereas the latter stutters noticeably.
It would appear that these issues are still extant. The 7.0.1/2/3 releases were simply bug fixes and no major changes. I suspect there's a 7.1 build in the offing which will offer some fixes for the iPad performance issues.
It's clearly software rather than hardware. If you use both the home button and pinch gesture to return to the home screen, the former is perfectly smooth whereas the latter stutters noticeably.
Still, more optimization are required to match the increase in hardware horsepower. This is the latest iPad and people expect no lag on it when scrolling and gesturing.
Pretty much my thinking as well as I walked away having decided not to buy one after all. It's not good when I'm turning the thing over in my hand, doubting whether I really knew what the new one looked like, thinking "This is one of the new ones, right? This isn't a display model of an old one that was left out?"
Mine not slow
My iPad Air wallpaper sets fast just like the iPhone 5s. My old iPad 4 sets slow even with latest iOS.
The car animation at the launch of Real Racing 3 was jerky on the iPad 4. Smooth on the iPad Air.
I ran various benchmarks including 3DMark and GFXMark. The iPad Air is in every way faster than the iPad 4.
My iPad Air wallpaper sets fast just like the iPhone 5s. My old iPad 4 sets slow even with latest iOS.
The car animation at the launch of Real Racing 3 was jerky on the iPad 4. Smooth on the iPad Air.
I ran various benchmarks including 3DMark and GFXMark. The iPad Air is in every way faster than the iPad 4.
Software is the bottleneck, not the processor.
What you should notice is improved loading times for apps and perhaps a smoother experience in some games.
What you should notice is improved loading times for apps and perhaps a smoother experience in some games.
The stuttering is an OS optimization issue. Expect it to be gone in a patch or two. The CPU is PLENTY capable of no stutters.
The glass on the Air, the last gen Mini, and all future tablets is the latest version of Gorilla Glass which is extra thin to save weight. That's why it feels this way. I expect you'll get used to it soon enough, but any new Apple tablet you buy is going to be this way.
Absolutely, the Air has almost the exact same stuttering, lag, and slow-downs with UI graphics. I've come to conclusion based on everyone else's comments that this is probably a matter of poorly optimized software (iOS 7).
It's not a deal-breaker as the form and weight is just perfect....I had just hoped to see the UI return to iOS 6-like smoothness with the marketed CPU/GPU improvements of the Air.
Pulling down the search bar stutters on every device, iPhone 5s/iPad Air included, sadly. iOS 7 really does need some smoothing out.
No perceivable performance difference between iPad 4 and Air.
Doubt it, countless others have the same issue. And plenty others can't or don't want to see it. I mean, people complained at length and in great numbers about this very issue with the iPad 3 and 4.
Doubt it, countless others have the same issue. And plenty others can't or don't want to see it. I mean, people complained at length and in great numbers about this very issue with the iPad 3 and 4.
People around here complain about a lot of things. Of the millions of iPads sold, only a very small fraction post here, and these type of sites attract people with issues.
My iPad Air is fine. No lag, no stuttering, no delays changing wallpaper, no screen bleeds, no dead pixels, no crackling speakers. It just works. Like most of the iPad Airs sold in the last two days. The "countless" others are just a tiny, tiny fraction of all the iPad airs sold.
Perspective. It's a beautiful thing.
No perceivable performance difference between iPad 4 and Air.
Great, now we all know your iPad is perfect. Do you also walk into hospitals and tell everyone how great you feel? I don't see the point of arguing with other people who have legitimate issues that you don't (or can't see).
Great, now we all know your iPad is perfect. Do you also walk into hospitals and tell everyone how great you feel? I don't see the point of arguing with other people who have legitimate issues that you don't (or can't see).
I would reset to factor and clean out the old code. Mine does not have any of the issues that you face but I agree with you, I do not notice a difference beween 4 and 5 in performance.