There's no event this year. It should be clear by now that it's not gonna happen! Some people have too much time to imagine things (such as Apple "tags"). As to the rumored 16-inch MacBook Pro, I don't see Apple releasing it this year. WWDC 2020 is my guess.
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No special event for this year?
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Oh, cool. You got this information directly from Apple?
Because you are coming across with enough arrogance that SURELY you have information the rest of us do not.
Please tell us your source.
I ask because of last year's data which shows event invites going out four days prior to the keynote. That would bring us to this Friday.
Even if there is no event, there is enough evidence out there that the 16" MBP has been in production. There's even an icon of it hidden in the new beta of Catalina.
But obviously you have information none of us do, so please, spill it...
gigatoaster
macrumors 68000
Right. I hate the arrogance of some people here.
NOBODY has the facts. NOBODY should be coming across as an arrogant pr*ck when they know nothing.
You are right that it doesn't matter if there is an event or not. All signs point to its imminent release and it could come in a simple press release.
No more events this year. Products will launch with a press release and press briefings.
Gruber expects: MBP 16”, AirPod Pro, and Mac Pro.
https://daringfireball.net/2019/10/will_apple_hold_another_keynote_event_this_year
Gruber expects: MBP 16”, AirPod Pro, and Mac Pro.
https://daringfireball.net/2019/10/will_apple_hold_another_keynote_event_this_year
That kind of makes the most sense now. However, everything is leaning to confirming the 16"MBP announcement is imminent.
I was not replaying to your post.
My "face it" is far from arrogant and definitively not addressed to you personally (if you feel offended you shouldn't) but rather to all of us posting here. It is reality checkpoint.
I am happy to wait Nov 2 and see who is right. I would REALLY like you are right and I am wrong.
I simply stopped believing new MPB16 is coming this year and have explained the reasons in my post.
I still stand behind it - NO new MBP16 this year. It is not an arrogant statement and I accept you (and the others) may have different opinion.
triangletechie
macrumors 65816
Mark Gurman also tweeted a few days ago that product launches are coming, with or without an event. There may also be a new Apple TV updated to tie in with the ATV+ launch.
What makes you think Apple is paying for a lot of repairs on the 2019 keyboard? I am seeing very few complaints about the reliability of the latest butterfly keyboard on this Forum.
Lobwedgephil
macrumors 603
You keep saying 4 days notice, and I am not sure why. Google the event from last year and see when the invites actually went out.
You are right. My mistake and apologies. They went out on the 18th, not the 26th.
Most likely a press release then, that is, unless date has been pushed back.
However, it is my opinion, based on what has been circulating, that the MBP will be out prior to 2020.
Lobwedgephil
macrumors 603
Not 2019 keyboard, Im talking about the butterfly keyboard since 2015. It is well known that the butterfly keyboard is very fragile.
turbineseaplane
macrumors Penryn
No need for an event necessarily.
Just this last Spring they released
- New iMacs
- New iPad Mini
- New AirPods (v2) with Wireless Charging Case
- New Accesorries
- New iPad Air
All released done with just press releases and no special event.
The event was the following week and not about those products -- in fact they released them in advance to clear the decks *for* that event and not distract it's focus.
investorplace.com
Just this last Spring they released
- New iMacs
- New iPad Mini
- New AirPods (v2) with Wireless Charging Case
- New Accesorries
- New iPad Air
All released done with just press releases and no special event.
The event was the following week and not about those products -- in fact they released them in advance to clear the decks *for* that event and not distract it's focus.
Apple Event: All the New Hardware Apple Released Last Week
Apple stock got a boost from a series of new releases this week before Monday's Apple event, including new iPads, Macs and AirPods.
investorplace.com
No need for an event necessarily.
Just this last Spring they released
- New iMacs
- New iPad Mini
- New AirPods (v2) with Wireless Charging Case
- New Accesorries
- New iPad Air
All released done with just press releases and no special event.
The event was the following week and not about those products -- in fact they released them in advance to clear the decks *for* that event and not distract it's focus.
Apple Event: All the New Hardware Apple Released Last Week
Apple stock got a boost from a series of new releases this week before Monday's Apple event, including new iPads, Macs and AirPods.
Like I said before, those products arent whole new products instead of updating their line ups.
iMac still has the same design with different parts. Not a whole new one.
iPad Mini has identical design.
AirPods arent that new especially with a same design. Airpod Pro is expected to announce this year.
iPad Air is new? Same design.
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More rumors suggesting the Mac Pro release is soon. If the MBP 16" were to happen, they'd likely happen together. Looking a bit like if it were to happen, it will be soon, probably within a week.
And lots of noise in this thread. Remember folks this is a macRUMORS forum. Very little point in arguing about if something is definitely or definitely not coming and being right. No one knows for sure, that's what a rumor is. And just because one side will be right in the end, it doesn't somehow validate your stance because you didn't know it. Its like calling heads when a coin is in the air and then gloating about being right when it falls heads. Somehow you knew it would be heads because of the rotation of the penny, the density of the air, the distance to the table? Please, you read the same rumors and guessed right, or wrong, nothing more.
And lots of noise in this thread. Remember folks this is a macRUMORS forum. Very little point in arguing about if something is definitely or definitely not coming and being right. No one knows for sure, that's what a rumor is. And just because one side will be right in the end, it doesn't somehow validate your stance because you didn't know it. Its like calling heads when a coin is in the air and then gloating about being right when it falls heads. Somehow you knew it would be heads because of the rotation of the penny, the density of the air, the distance to the table? Please, you read the same rumors and guessed right, or wrong, nothing more.
turbineseaplane
macrumors Penryn
I'll go with Gruber on this.
This sort of knowledge of how Apple does things is right in his wheelhouse
Right. Apple has had a lot of problems with the older butterfly keyboards. But, if the 2019 keyboard is reliable, why change to a scissor mechanism for new models?
The 2019 keyboard is only partially more reliable, and from what i read it was only meant to be a placeholder till the new models go back to the scissor mechanism which had no issues. The 2019 keyboard is the same butterfly mechanism as before just with a slight material change and we still don't know how well it will actually hold up long term as it still has the same flawed design overall. So it's mainly just there so Apple can say they "fixed" it until Apple releases the MBP that returns to the scissor mechanism which is already known to be far more reliable both short and long term. When they do it they likely won't call attention to it because it means admitting fault.
I think, because of all the negative press the keyboards have received. It is true the 2019 keyboard is fine. I am using it on this year's 13" MBP. However, there is no argument that customers want the old scissor keyboard or something with a bit more travel. Apple is giving its customers what they want.
He is normally right.
And given the icon of the 16” it isnt a massive design change but an update, which doesnt really need a keynote speech.
I agree with others on here, the Mac Pro and 16” will probably launch on the same day with a pro launch press release or small press talk.
a new keyboard isn’t something to shout about as it is an admittance of failure, and they dont normally do that [mac pro accepted]
the cpu will be the same as the current top end MBP
the GPU is the only unknown really, but it better be a big improvement otherwise I am not buying.
Changing the material on the dome part of the switch might have been an important fix, since it could have solved a fundamental part of the problem with the old mechanism. And, to be clear, there really is no evidence (anecdotal or otherwise) that the 2019 Butterfly keyboard is less reliable than a standard scissor mechanism keyboard. In other words, there is no guarantee that changing the mechanism will result in more reliable keyboard. So, why do it?