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Nokia Broadens Attack on Apple With New Lawsuit Targeting iPhone and iPad 3G
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Here's a preliminary article about it:
http://www.businessinsider.com/noki...nkGuillen+Buzz&utm_content=Google+Feedfetcher
http://www.businessinsider.com/noki...nkGuillen+Buzz&utm_content=Google+Feedfetcher
in a legal perspective it makes sense since the iPad 3G is just a big iPhone that cannot make phone calls. The same components that went into an iPhone are in the iPad so if Nokia is suing apple on the iPhone it makes sense to do the same on the iPad.
True, but there in lies the crux of this debacle. Nokias patents pertain to the phone part of this whole deal.
If Nokia does have a good patent that is being violated, Apple should pay.
Nokia Broadens Attack on Apple With New Lawsuit Targeting iPhone and iPad 3G
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Nokia today announced that it has filed a new lawsuit against Apple alleging patent infringement by the company's iPhone and 3G-capable iPad products.
Article Link: Nokia Broadens Attack on Apple With New Lawsuit Targeting iPhone and iPad 3G
Nokia today announced that it has filed a new lawsuit against Apple alleging patent infringement by the company's iPhone and 3G-capable iPad products.
Nokia first filed suit against Apple in October 2009 alleging infringement of its patents by the iPhone, and later increased the scope of its claims to include "virtually all" Apple products. Apple has fought back with lawsuits and International Trade Commission complaints of its own as the two companies continue to fight for position in the competitive mobile phone industry.
Article Link: Nokia Broadens Attack on Apple With New Lawsuit Targeting iPhone and iPad 3G
Can't Nokia just give up?
If they're suing because of lost profits, how about using their own products on a daily basis and find out.
If they're suing because of lost profits, how about using their own products on a daily basis and find out.
Well what's strange is that other companies have reproduced apple like features in their smartphones as well. So if Apple truly infringed on Nokia's patents then why are they not going after HTC and other makers as well?
So how do you explain Apple suing HTC?
By your logic, Apple fears lost sales to other companies that are more innovative.
And you'd be right in both cases. Both Nokia and Apple are clearly worried.
Other companies supposedly license certain GSM patents from Nokia. Supposedly in the licensing negotiations with Apple, Nokia also wanted licensing of some of apple's patents in the deal. Apple refused. Or at least that's the points I remember from Oct. The Nokia vs Apple lawsuit is based around GSM patents.
It's all about how well the Claims portion of the patent is defendable. Anybody have links to the patens in question?
Barring that, I do detect the distinct stench of SCO here...
Barring that, I do detect the distinct stench of SCO here...
Nokia patent lawsuits eh?
Good luck with that.
Meanwhile, Nokia shareholders are wondering why Nokia Executives have been sitting and watching as their once dominant position in cell phones is vaporized.
Good luck with that.
Meanwhile, Nokia shareholders are wondering why Nokia Executives have been sitting and watching as their once dominant position in cell phones is vaporized.
just buy them out already, Apple.
From the Nokia presser -- "Nokia has invested approximately EUR 40 billion in research and development and built one of the wireless industry's strongest and broadest IPR portfolios, with over 11,000 patent families."
So, buy them out, take the "portfolio", then put the squeeze on HTC, Motorola, et al....
From the Nokia presser -- "Nokia has invested approximately EUR 40 billion in research and development and built one of the wireless industry's strongest and broadest IPR portfolios, with over 11,000 patent families."
So, buy them out, take the "portfolio", then put the squeeze on HTC, Motorola, et al....
Hypocracy
I love how the majority of people here uprank and approve of Apple suing HTC and Google and everyone else under the sun, and going so far as to patent the iphone's external design (should be a copyright) and patent using more than one finger on a screen, and then, when another company does EXACTLY the same thing back to them, the majority call foul...
Keep drinking that Koolaid.
I don't blame any of these companies as much as I blame a broken patent system.
I love how the majority of people here uprank and approve of Apple suing HTC and Google and everyone else under the sun, and going so far as to patent the iphone's external design (should be a copyright) and patent using more than one finger on a screen, and then, when another company does EXACTLY the same thing back to them, the majority call foul...
Keep drinking that Koolaid.
I don't blame any of these companies as much as I blame a broken patent system.
I'm so sick of these companies that feel the need to sue Apple over infringement. I just have to wonder if this was Apple back in 1999 with an iPhone would Nokia be pulling this crap? They're just annoyed because the droid and their app store isn't catching up rapidly enough to the iPhone and the iTunes app store. I have a couple of friends who bought the droid and are sorry they did. The droid app store doesn't have the same good quality of apps as what can be bought for the iPhone and the droid phone feels cheap.
GO AWAY NOKIA!
GO AWAY NOKIA!
Head over to AppleInsider. They'll remind you every damn time. It's got to the point where they might as well say the sky is blue and s*** stinks.
So when Apple sues others for alledgedly violating one of their "generic" iPhone patents everyone applauds, but when others sue Apple for alledgedly violating one of their patents, everyone screams outrage. Do you guys realize how ridiculous you all are? 
Bottom line is that none of us have the expertise to judge a patent lawsuit, so what's the point of all this except being a fanboy and blinding assuming everything that's "against Apple" is wrong and everything Apple does is right.
Personaly, I hate ALL patents that are not specfic in both concept and DETAILED EXECUTION. Patent law is mostly ridiculous, whether it's Apple's patents or anybody elses. And Apple is just as guilty of submitting patents that are just scribbled drawings of some generic "concept" that is mostly self-evident without any technical way to yet implement. This needs to be stopped.
Tony
Bottom line is that none of us have the expertise to judge a patent lawsuit, so what's the point of all this except being a fanboy and blinding assuming everything that's "against Apple" is wrong and everything Apple does is right.
Personaly, I hate ALL patents that are not specfic in both concept and DETAILED EXECUTION. Patent law is mostly ridiculous, whether it's Apple's patents or anybody elses. And Apple is just as guilty of submitting patents that are just scribbled drawings of some generic "concept" that is mostly self-evident without any technical way to yet implement. This needs to be stopped.
Tony
I wouldn't say it has vaporized... Nokia leads the competition in smartphones by a 2-1 ratio to it's closest competitor, RIM. Compared to Apple, Nokia leads 2.5 to 1.
In the cell phone industry, Nokia has for years been a big innovator, and with that, they have invented quite a lot of stuff. IMO, Nokia isn't trolling here... they're (possibly) legitimately protecting their IP. The legitimacy of the claims will be tested by the courts or they'll settle.
Of course, with Apple also being a big inventor, it would behoove Apple to also see if Nokia is borrowing some of their inventions to strengthen their stance.