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I see. I don't know the answer. If you approach AT&T with a phone you brought yourself, I suspect they do make you do a 2 year contract. If so, that sucks.

Actually, no, they don't. You can sign up contract-less with any of the cell services, they simply charge you full price for the phone. Thus, if you have your own phone, there isn't any penalty. It's just so rare (because people usually want to get new phones, because they're "free" or flashy and cool), that the salespeople don't always even know it's possible. It can definitely be done, though.

jW
 
Actually, no, they don't. You can sign up contract-less with any of the cell services, they simply charge you full price for the phone. Thus, if you have your own phone, there isn't any penalty. It's just so rare (because people usually want to get new phones, because they're "free" or flashy and cool), that the salespeople don't always even know it's possible. It can definitely be done, though.

jW

Sorta. However this info might be old - it's from a 3G page on AT&T.

http://www.wireless.att.com/cell-phone-service/specials/iphone-info.jsp#0faqSection1
We now offer a offer a no-commitment option of $599 for 8GB and $699 for 16GB to existing AT&T postpaid customers in stores only. Certain restrictions do apply. Please visit an AT&T Store for details.

I have an original iPhone and would like to activate it. How does the monthly service cost?
A two-year service agreement is required to use the original iPhone or if you are already an AT&T customer, a renewed two-year service agreement.

Sounds like, that if i was a new to AT&T Customer (which i would be), i would have to have a 2 year contract - even if i brought my own phone. So a person might as well take the subsidy.....

Not that it seems fair to lock someone into a contract if they didn't take the money.
 
I don't get these companies. I mean this is the 3rd iPhone. Did Nokia just realize the featues? Why all of a sudden for a lawsuit?

Answered in all the other threads on this topic:

It's not a question of "just realizing".

Nokia tried for years to get Apple to pay. For whatever reason, Apple did not pay. So Nokia finally sued and Apple countered. Now it'll be up to a Delaware jury.
 
Actually, no, they don't. You can sign up contract-less with any of the cell services, they simply charge you full price for the phone. Thus, if you have your own phone, there isn't any penalty. It's just so rare (because people usually want to get new phones, because they're "free" or flashy and cool), that the salespeople don't always even know it's possible. It can definitely be done, though.

jW

They have been cracking down in the data in pre paid plans (because that is basically what the carrier sees you as). In AT&Ts case you could get a voice plan and have that work with an already activated iPhone, but to activate one properly requires a two year agreement. I think a lot of that has to do with Apple choosing to force you to activate the phone through iTunes. Usually an unlocked GSM phone just needs a SIM...
 
They have been cracking down in the data in pre paid plans (because that is basically what the carrier sees you as). In AT&Ts case you could get a voice plan and have that work with an already activated iPhone, but to activate one properly requires a two year agreement. I think a lot of that has to do with Apple choosing to force you to activate the phone through iTunes. Usually an unlocked GSM phone just needs a SIM...

Actually, that's also not true. You can activate as a postpaid plan, without a contract, without any of the issues you think you know so much about. You do have to get the data plan with an iPhone, but still no contract required. I'm not sure where you're getting your information from, but it's from neither Apple nor AT&T.

jW
 
And the majority of people don't want/buy an iPhone or other touch screen phones.

Correct. They long for a bowl of rice and a cloudy cup of water, hopefully not from the sewer, which itself is the local pond and a few gutters going to it.

The rice is paid for by your tax dollars, BTW.

The majority of COMPUTER buyers now buy smart phones more than laptops, and FAR more than desktops.

Apple makes the most premium price and feature "smart phone" out there. In exchange for that strategy they have something like over 60% of profits for the entire industry. The goal of business is not unit volume or market share. It is profit share and volume, with a dose of margin and growth.

By those metrics Apple has NO peer.

Apple owners, employees, and users are not eating rice except as a side dish and only occasionally. Rice is not their #1 thing to "wish" they owned.

The good news is they cannot have what they wish for either: an Apple Tablet today. :)

Rocketman
 
cases

According to Bloomberg, there are 2 cases http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601204&sid=atRnVl.Kq3rM

"The ITC case is In the Matter of Electronic Devices, Including Mobile Phones, Portable Music Players, and Computers, 337-2702, U.S. International Trade Commission (Washington). The Delaware case is Nokia Corp. v. Apple Inc., U.S. District Court, District of Delaware (Wilmington)."

I can't find anything on the ITC case - is there any info???

The Delaware case to a non-lawyer looks fairly simple. Nokia wil be compensated for fair licencing fees of patents required to implement standards, just as all other licencees. This will cause no bother to Apple. Part of Apple's legal strategy is to get Nokia to agree to such terms out of court. Apple does not want to give away any IP non-essential for standards technology and presumably the court will agree.
 
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