Nokia Launches Lumia 925 Advertisement Bashing iPhone Camera

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Or any other digital device made by anyone else.

I'm sorry, but this tired excuse wears thin after a few years. Because other companies use the same manufacturers with horrible labor laws and now polluting the environment in staggering amounts means it's ok, since xxxxx company does the same.

I love the other excuses; "Well, it's a better life than not having a job" or "that's a lot of money for them". Maybe they would be better off working near their home and not leaving their family to work ungodly hours in sleeping quarters next to their factories so we can boast, complain, moan and fight over electronic devices that [frankly] we don't really need. There was a time, long, long ago, when human beings didn't have mobile devices, and would actually meet face to face. Wow!

 

[guerro]

:Yaaaawwwnnn:

 

[pirg]

When you consider all the "Apple hater" and "Samsung Troll" posts that have been posted time and time and TIME again around here, it's easy to lump your response in with all those others. Your reply is one similar to all the others that usually come up in that context.

...but since you or anyone else didn't EXPLICITLY STATE "Apple Hater" or "Samsung Troll" within the thread, you're gonna harp on it like it somehow proves something.

Seriously. It's tiresome. You don't discuss, you don't argue, you make broad claims, then look for the smallest literal detail in someone's response that you can exploit and run with.

How is that different from what you're doing? You're making broad generalizations aren't you? Be true to yourself.

A wise man once said remove the log from your own eye before trying to remove the speck from another mans. Seems fitting here.

 

[Taz Mangus]

It is actually NO! -kia.

I always also thought the same thing. Apparently not the case according to the commercial.

 

[Renzatic]

How is that different from what you're doing? You're making broad generalizations aren't you? Be true to yourself.

Show me where?

 

[aristotle]

Were any of those dark shots using HDR or simply with the flash off? I suspect that it was with the flash off and no HDR on.

The apple HDR mode is similar to the night shot modes on Sony cybershot cameras and the next iPhone should have even better night or low light photo and video with its amber LED flash.

I had a Sony video/photo camera which had an amber led flash for use in its "museum" mode. It used that flash in addition to taking multiple exposures to fill in the shadow giving a much better photo experience.

If the rumours are true, the new iPhone 5S should have great nighttime shooting.

 

[pirg]

Show me where?

Your "rule number one!"rant. You were generalizing there, are you going to lie again and say you weren't?

 

[Glideslope]

Please......

Read this. There really should be no more questions. I know it's a lot, but try.

http://www.fosspatents.com/2013/07/one-itc-chief-found-samsung-to-fail-to.html

 

[thekev]

4. Get vetoed by Obama.

I still find the misuse of the term "vetoed" disturbing.

But the whole quantity vs quality aspect doesn't make sense. Unless Nokia is suggesting Apple built a crap camera in to their phone so they could sell more phones.

I find myself tuning out a lot of marketing, as it seems like the marketing people rarely understand the engineering of what they are selling.

Everyone is trying to encroach on Apple's market share and marginalize it, and the only way they know how is by bashing it.

Apple did the same thing. I suspect it's because it works on some level. You see it in a lot of things where one thing is pitched as the second incarnation of a competing product. To me it says less about the product and more about their marketing team.

I'd rather have a 5 megapixel f/1.8 than 12 megapixels.

F-stop is a lens ratio. If they're constrained in terms of size of the lens, they would achieve that by going with a smaller sensor. It would mean a lot of refactoring overall. Well... maybe not so much. I know it's a significant design change. Focal length to angle of view would shift. I don't know enough of what they would encounter in refactoring or how much of it involves commodity parts.

 

[pubwvj]

"Nokia has taken a page from Microsoft's advertising book and has today launched"

Hmm... I wonder if Nokia will be as successful as Microsoft's Zen, phone and tablet (Surface) campaigns? Microsoft just admitted the Surface has been very disappointing and wrote off a billion dollars, dropped prices 30% and then dropped prices another $100. The Zen (iPod wannabe) and phone were similar failures to launch.

 

[slash7844]

Usually when a company bashes another company's product, is because their own product is not good enough to sell on its own.

If you truly have a product that is better, it will sell itself. This is what Apple is doing.

That's why Apple had Mac vs PC ads?

 

[ctdonath]

Lumia 1020, which offers an impressive 41-megapixel camera

If that's actual pixel count, it's absurd to have such a large imager in a platform which cannot spare enough space for a lens big enough to match it (never mind so many pixels that you'd need five 4K displays to show it pixel-for-pixel).

If that's interpolated, shame on them for misrepresenting the hardware specifications when it's a software application (from that perspective, the iPhone has a 41MP camera too - or any size you choose to approximate).

 

[auero]

Tried a Nokia 1020 this weekend. The camera on the 1020 and 925 are extremely impressive. There is a night and day difference between them and my iPhone 5 in not only the video quality but the camera features. Windows Phone is still lacking for me to switch over though.

 

[Jalopybox]

exactly, i want a camera that takes sharp photos even when i standing shivering in Antarctica, those motion blur kills the 12MP, 16MP or whatever MP they have. phone cameras don't have tripods

Low lights photo should be improved. phone cameras are mostly used for casual photos where lighting is not appropriate or professionally done

i don't know what iphone 5s will have but i hope it to go in these directions.

For this we need larger sensor.

 

[cclloyd]

rule #1 learned in business school: never bash your competitors to promote your own product


Nokia doesn't know how to sell its products other than comparing it to the iphone 5, what a bunch of amateurs

I guess M$ didn't go to business school.

 

[GSPice]

Great camera. Maybe it will finally be able to get a good picture of Apple's market share

 

[Jaredly]

Just have 1 question:

Why are companies (with the exception of Samsung) comparing their products to apple? I thought Samsung was the front runner and that they were the number one selling smartphone manufacturer. Also why don't any of the windows phone ads compare the os to android since android is the clear market leader for mobile devices.

 

[Taz Mangus]

I'm sorry, but this tired excuse wears thin after a few years. Because other companies use the same manufacturers with horrible labor laws and now polluting the environment in staggering amounts means it's ok, since xxxxx company does the same.

I love the other excuses; "Well, it's a better life than not having a job" or "that's a lot of money for them". Maybe they would be better off working near their home and not leaving their family to work ungodly hours in sleeping quarters next to their factories so we can boast, complain, moan and fight over electronic devices that [frankly] we don't really need. There was a time, long, long ago, when human beings didn't have mobile devices, and would actually meet face to face. Wow!

It is even a bigger problem then mobile phones, for instance textiles. Chaining the doors closed so that people could not leave and then having a 8 story textile building collapse, killing more then a thousand of workers. And how do you think that 8 story building, that was not permitted to be built, even got built in the first place. When it comes down to it, cheap wages trump peoples health and their safety. Just look at the mining industry all over the world.

 

[Tech198]

What..... People can't take "second best"

Just be thankful, there's a camera there at all of the iPhone, and be happy it takes great photos. But if its not up t peed, don't use it. I know carrying more than 1 device around is deemed now-days "a waste of time, where a single device should be able to do this, and more", i guess you have to sacrifice somewhere right???

 

[linuxcooldude]

You have to admit, when third party manufacturers produce a lot of iPhone camera lens and add-ons to improve its quality then something can't be right.

Can't agree with you there. Its a smartphone. It can do a lot of things well, not necessarily perfect. It has gone a long way in making improvements to the camera and will continue to do so.

People tend to use smartphones to capture pictures when they don't expect too or at the last minute. They are more worried about documenting that point in time rather than quality. And the quality is more than good enough for that.

If they are going to a planned event and want quality they tend to bring more high end cameras before hand.

 

[reden]

Companies that bash their competitors almost never works. Look how well it worked out for Microsoft lately, and Cadillac when they ran their campaign against BMW. I don't own an iPhone anymore, and it wasn't any commercials bashing competitors that had me purchase the HTC One, it was me making an informed decision myself to purchase the device. There are better marketing strategies.

 

[Applefan4]

Pretty pathetic, to be perfectly honest. Making ads like that just shows how threatened they feel by Apple. All those 'rival' companies like Samesung and Nokia try so hard, it's almost cute.

 

[bocomo]

They certainly cranked up the exposure on the Lumia photo. It's not clear the dynamic range is any better though…the photos is pretty blown out. If they're serious about doing this comparison, they should at least do similar exposures on the two cameras (with a slightly higher shutter speed on the Lumia to take advantage of its slightly faster lens).

and the Nokia one isn't sharp

i only pay attention to photo websites when comparing cameras (even on phones)

 

[jimbo1mcm]

"Now rounding the final turn, coming down the stretch, it's Samsung in the lead, followed by Apple with HTC and Nokia nose to nose. It could be a photo finish!!"

 

[zorinlynx]

The "iPhone" photo is merely underexposed. Tapping on a darker area of the image on the screen before taking the photo would have fixed this.

Funny how misleading companies can be in trying to convince you their product is better. The iPhone is excellent in low light; you just need to know how to use it first.