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Nokia Unveils Android-Powered N1 Tablet With iPad Mini-Inspired Design

So who records revenue for the sale of this product - Nokia or Foxconn? Ben Bajarin seems to think its Foxconn.
 
HiVolt said:
LOL, Lava Grey??

They are really grasping at straws when naming these new "colors".

If I recall Lava is not Grey, even when solidified its quite dark nowhere close to what this is...
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You can't make this stuff up. Google "Lava Grey." It's an AUDI color :rolleyes:. All I can muster is that this thing should have a release date of April 1.
 
It's not nokia who's making it, they've licensed their brand name to foxconn who makes it. It's effectively a foxconn tablet that will be sold in china under nokia brand.
 
Though USB type C is quite cool. Apple should adopt it since it will soon be compatible with everything.
 
I remember a while back when I said this about the Samsung verdict and almost everyone told me I was crazy:

Not gonna lie, this ending kinda bothers me.

I think most would agree that Samsung has made 10's of billions in profits already because of things they stole from Apple. They also have the potential to make hundreds of billions, perhaps trillions, in future profits because of this theft. The timing of the theft was at such a critical time in the maturity of the market that the value here is truly massive. Samsung successfully connived their way into a leadership position.

I know many of you will think this is utterly ridiculous but I don't think a ruling in the realm of 20+ billion in damages would have been out of line here. In fact, it may have still been worth it for Samsung to willfully infringe even paying that much.

The most amazing thing to me is that Android fans will defend this when it's hurt the other Android vendors even more than its hurt Apple. Samsungs tactics have basically killed companies like HTC, Motorola, and LG. They have killed the variety and choice that is the greatest strength of Android. Weird that people who "hate the iPhone" are unanimously choosing Samsung (the closest thing to iOS that Android has to offer).

Now don't get me wrong. I think at this point Samsung has, to some extent, been able to differentiate itself. That being said, the stealing at such a crucial time, the marketshare gained at such a crucial time, and more importantly the mindshare gained at such a crucial time, has created value well beyond anything they had to pay in court. Basically Samsungs immoral strategy worked and it kinda bums me out.
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What I think is common sense is that the punishment should fit the crime. My point, and what should be common sense, is that a punishment of 1B in a scenario where the profits are in the 10's of billions isn't going to stop the crime. How is that hard to comprehend?
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No, I'd say my common sense about the punishment fitting the crime is still pretty basic and logical.

BUT... Congratulations, after 3 posts you have finally made an actual point. Your contention is that Samsung has only benefited (or stands to benefit in the future) around a billion dollars from their copying and therefore the fine was appropriate for the crime. That's a point; a very bad and shortsighted one in my opinion, and you failed to provide any supporting details, but a point nonetheless.

It's a bad point because we are talking about a global smartphone market worth over 200B. The current global cellphone market is even larger. The global mobile computing market of the future is estimated to be in the trillions. In a market of this size 1B is almost always going to be immaterial. Just 1% of the current 200B market is 2B in revenue.

More realistically though, if we were to really get into the future prospects of the industry as well as a more realistic percentage that the infringements helped Samsung get you could easily get into damages far exceeding anything Samsung was ever going to be charged. For example a fairly conservative estimate of just the smartphone market at 400B and a fairly conservative estimate of 10% puts the revenue damages at 40B.

Basically, by making the statement that Samsung only benefited by the amount of the damages awarded (less than 1B) you are effectively saying that Samsung only gained about .2% of the market profits from their infringements. I find that to be a very tough position to defend but I'd love to hear it.
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Looks like Lenovo and Nokia finally figured out what Samsung knew a long time ago.
 
I actually think it looks very different. The shape of the edge, predominantly the lack of the chamfer, gives it a totally different look and feel. Much more 2000s Apple than current Apple.
 
Intruiging

So they copied the Apple TV design to be the box of the N1 which is a copy of the iPad Mini being displayed on their site which is a copy of the Apple Website. Yup, I think they just surpassed Samsung.
 

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Yes because no one besides Apple has ever used the term forward thinking. Nobody, ever. So therefore, it is Apple's. As well as anything that could resemble the same idea.

:rolleyes:
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I didn't say that . It's like saying samsung and others didn't copy Apple when they made a gold phone because there were gold phones before the 5s. Of course there was but all those companies "suddenly" started to make gold flagship smartphones after the succes of the gold 5s . Same for the slogan here. The term was of course used before, but not as a slogan for a tablet or a phone.
 
People have gotten so lazy these days. But that is a good sign for Apple if the best their competitors can release is copies of their stuff
 
huh?

iPad inspired design? Really? Because when last I checked Android was in the 7 inch tablet space long before Apple.
 
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Well.....

It's different enough to thwart any suit. It will be interesting. Nokia has a achieved a nice standard with the Lumia Devices. I'm actually fond of the WIN8 Lumia's.

This tablet was neutered from the start unfortunately. WIN8 Mobil was never an option. It's just another Android Tablet. Just like many others, but with better build quality I imagine.

iOS is not going to be Androids problem. WIN10 Mobile will. Microsoft is on a roll, and innovating with the new Boss.

Google will slowly become less relevant in an Apple/Microsoft dominated market. I predict 5 years tops. :apple:
 
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