Become a MacRumors Supporter for $50/year with no ads, ability to filter front page stories, and private forums.
When I got my 4S (which I still have) my only 2 complaints were the small screen size and lack of 4G speeds so I was never one to say that the 3.5" was 'adequate'....
 
No idea to be honest.

I'm just curious if there is anything in the same size class that could actually be considered an upgrade from an iPhone 5/5s. The trend overall is toward bigger phones, and while I think there are some small Android phones they aren't generally "flagship" phones.
 
Timing is everything.

Ada Lovelace wanted to build a multi functional machine which could complete countless tasks. She was about 100 years too early.
 
Somehow I could not find a way to do a poll post so that this post would be easier to be analysed.

Creating and Participating in Polls

To create a poll when you post a new thread, simply click the 'Yes, post a poll with this thread' checkbox at the bottom of the page, and set the number of possible responses you want to include.

When you click the submit button, you will be taken to the poll creation page, where you can specify the question and the list of responses you want to include.

You may also want to specify a time limit for the poll, so that (for example) it stays open for voting for only a week.

----------

By the way, how can I edit the title of this post since I have some spelling and grammar error?

Forums FAQ: How do I edit or delete my post?

To edit a post you have already made:
  • Click the Edit button below your post.
  • Edit the text in the Message box.
  • If you would like to preview your changes or use the full set of editing features, click the Go Advanced button.
  • Click the Save or Save Changes button.
As a courtesy to other members, we ask that you not change posts in a way that interferes with a discussion by other members.

To edit the post title, you will need to go to advanced mode, where you will see an editable textfield containing the title. Don't forget to save your changes!
 
I have a Note 3. Which is entirely too big as a phone. I do not plan on getting a 6+ either.

I don't even know if I want the regular 6.
 
Timing is everything.

Ada Lovelace wanted to build a multi functional machine which could complete countless tasks. She was about 100 years too early.

Not even the same comparison.

We're not talking about companies building holographic displays that project in 3d.

Its just a larger screen. How are you going to compare 100 year ideas with 1-2 year ideas.

So what has Apple done so magnificently well with their 5.5 in screens that couldnt be done 1-2 years prior with other companies?

Nothing.

Its called being a hypocrite. Apple has had a long history of hypocrisy and their users have been conditioned this way.

Remember when NFC and large screens were ridiculous and useless?

Until a feature is not in an Apple product it is ridiculous and useless. Once it finally arrives, only then would it have been "properly" utilized.

And the cycle continues.
 
Remember when NFC and large screens were ridiculous and useless?

I think you might be overstating your case a bit. NFC has been more or less useless for most people up until now -- even Android users. And if Apple Pay takes off, it will indeed be a case of Apple doing it later and better. It's just like with the iPad. It certainly wasn't the first tablet, but it was the first good tablet because of the way Apple implemented it.

With regard to big screens, though, I agree that Apple is playing catch-up and hasn't really provided anything new that suddenly makes having bigger screens make more sense than they might have a year or two ago.
 
So Samsung can say the same thing. Samsung can say that they did not copy Apple's iphone look with their earliest phones (the ones that Apple sued Samsung) because they needed "a few months" to perfect the look. Now Samsung can say the same thing about the metal body of the Alpha and the Note 4 because before these two phones the "metal frame technology was not there yet" and that they want "to do it right". Apple is known for making excuses and justifications. Remember the "you are not holding it right?"

Well Id like to believe there was a real set of challenges that took this time.

Not because the leadership made the wrong choice.

Not because they didn't understand what the people/the masses wanted.
 
Well Id like to believe there was a real set of challenges that took this time.

Not because the leadership made the wrong choice.

Not because they didn't understand what the people/the masses wanted.

You might like to believe that (and I'm sure Apple would probably say that the bigger screens weren't up to their standards in some way or adversely affected battery life). But I do think the bottom line is that they were caught a bit flatfooted by the trend toward larger screens, and frankly I think that's the only thing that really helped Samsung get a foothold in the market. Look what's happened to Samsung's profits now.
 
So Samsung can say the same thing. Samsung can say that they did not copy Apple's iphone look with their earliest phones (the ones that Apple sued Samsung) because they needed "a few months" to perfect the look. Now Samsung can say the same thing about the metal body of the Alpha and the Note 4 because before these two phones the "metal frame technology was not there yet" and that they want "to do it right". Apple is known for making excuses and justifications. Remember the "you are not holding it right?"

Well Id like to believe there was a real set of challenges that took this time.

Not because the leadership made the wrong choice.

Not because they didn't understand what the people/the masses wanted.
 
Not even the same comparison.

We're not talking about companies building holographic displays that project in 3d.

Its just a larger screen. How are you going to compare 100 year ideas with 1-2 year ideas.

So what has Apple done so magnificently well with their 5.5 in screens that couldnt be done 1-2 years prior with other companies?

Nothing.

Its called being a hypocrite. Apple has had a long history of hypocrisy and their users have been conditioned this way.

Remember when NFC and large screens were ridiculous and useless?

Until a feature is not in an Apple product it is ridiculous and useless. Once it finally arrives, only then would it have been "properly" utilized.

And the cycle continues.

Time makes us all hypocrites. Samsung's large screen phones were terrible, and Apple waited and came out with a phone you can actually use all day on one charge.

My GS3 was stupid bad for battery, as was my Nexus 5. My iPhone 6 has been running since 7 AM with regular usage and still has 90% battery.

TIMING is EVERYTHING. This is why the iPhone 6 is called a 2012 phone, when, in fact, it is better than all the "2014 phones" on the market. It's not even close.
 
I'll go out on a limb and fully confess my hypocrisy. I always made fun of big phones until I tried using one and then realized the advantages. My main thoughts have to do with the fact that I realize that I rarely use my iPad, mainly just for reading and browsing the internet, but I really like it for reading. It occurred to me that it would be great if I could just rely on that for one device and not have to worry about syncing files, etc. I am definitely a recent convert.
 
Time makes us all hypocrites. Samsung's large screen phones were terrible, and Apple waited and came out with a phone you can actually use all day on one charge.

My GS3 was stupid bad for battery, as was my Nexus 5. My iPhone 6 has been running since 7 AM with regular usage and still has 90% battery.

TIMING is EVERYTHING. This is why the iPhone 6 is called a 2012 phone, when, in fact, it is better than all the "2014 phones" on the market. It's not even close.

You ever use Galaxy Note2? Because you would know how stellar the battery was. Note 3 stellar battery as well.

That was released 2 years ago.

So how is Apples large phone/screen magically better?

----------

I think you might be overstating your case a bit. NFC has been more or less useless for most people up until now -- even Android users. And if Apple Pay takes off, it will indeed be a case of Apple doing it later and better. It's just like with the iPad. It certainly wasn't the first tablet, but it was the first good tablet because of the way Apple implemented it.

With regard to big screens, though, I agree that Apple is playing catch-up and hasn't really provided anything new that suddenly makes having bigger screens make more sense than they might have a year or two ago.

But the thing is NFC is heavily used around the world. In Asia its more ubiquitous than cash.

So it.really isnt anything new.
 
You ever use Galaxy Note2? Because you would know how stellar the battery was. Note 3 stellar battery as well.

That was released 2 years ago.

So how is Apples large phone/screen magically better?


http://www.techradar.com/us/reviews/phones/mobile-phones/samsung-galaxy-note-2-1093688/review/9

The note 2 was said to have "Average" battery life or a "Good effort".

The iPhone 6+, the note equivalent, kills it, lasting nearly two days.

This isn't even taking into consideration the iPhone 6 lasts significantly longer than any "2012 iPhone" and rivals most "2014 phones".

You're sad that Apple is continuing to make a better product, and Samsung continues to decline as it is far and away the worst Android OEM and that's understandable. But don't make up facts about the note 2.

The iPhone 6+ isn't "magically", it's demonstrably and obviously better.
 
Last edited:
I find huge phones awful to use.

I find the 6 awful to use.

I dropped iOS as my daily driver phone as a result of the size of the 6, and moved to a smaller Android device.

No hypocrisy here.
 
But the thing is NFC is heavily used around the world. In Asia its more ubiquitous than cash.

So it.really isnt anything new.

The NFC battle has very little to do with Apple or Google. It has everything to do with the political nature of Credit card companies, so it's not really worth mentioning as an instance of Apple "catching up".

Fact is, Apple does NFC correctly.

----------

I find huge phones awful to use.

I find the 6 awful to use.

I dropped iOS as my daily driver phone as a result of the size of the 6, and moved to a smaller Android device.

No hypocrisy here.

Buy whatever you want. There's not hypocrisy in doing that.
 
The NFC battle has very little to do with Apple or Google. It has everything to do with the political nature of Credit card companies, so it's not really worth mentioning as an instance of Apple "catching up".

Fact is, Apple does NFC correctly.

----------



Buy whatever you want. There's not hypocrisy in doing that.

don't know about that statement that apple does nfc correctly. when i have both phones in front of me and have tested nfc on both. and my android device works on way more places than my apple device. so to say it's done correctly is just plain stupid. you need to do some real world test on both devices before you post your non-tested opinions jmo.
 
guilty. my sister in law and i have had several heated (but not really) debates about ios vs android and phone size differences (she has the note 2).....needless to say that was before the 6 plus.............
 
don't know about that statement that apple does nfc correctly. when i have both phones in front of me and have tested nfc on both. and my android device works on way more places than my apple device. so to say it's done correctly is just plain stupid. you need to do some real world test on both devices before you post your non-tested opinions jmo.


I meant specifically with regard to security
 
guilty. my sister in law and i have had several heated (but not really) debates about ios vs android and phone size differences (she has the note 2).....needless to say that was before the 6 plus.............
yea just like all the other debates with the widgets, multi-tasking, swipe keyboards. all of which were either gimmicks,insignificant, or not done right/polished. until apple started using them. now all of sudden they are magical lol..apple fans crack me up. they always give me a good laugh with thoes minions.
and jmo but i still think android does a better widget, swipe keyboard and true multi-tasking. so to say apple's version is more polished is just a joke

I meant specifically with regard to security

well right now that would be a wash, since nether of these nfc systems has been compromised yet.
 
I'm just curious if there is anything in the same size class that could actually be considered an upgrade from an iPhone 5/5s. The trend overall is toward bigger phones, and while I think there are some small Android phones they aren't generally "flagship" phones.

The z1 compact is a great phone. And 4.3" screen. The z3 also great spec. But no whilst it's called compact to me a 4.6" screen makes it no longer compact.

We all know spec wise there are plenty of android phones that on paper are better than any iPhone. But we also know spec sheets don't mean a great deal in terms of real world usage.

The way the market is the options for a smaller phone with flagship spec are pretty few. The only two I can actually think of off the top of my head are the 5s and the Z1 compact.
 
Which iPhone 5-sized Android phone would you be buying if you didn't get the 6?

I had the original Moto X. It was a bit larger than the iPhone, but the curved plastic back felt good to hold and I felt my thumb could reach the whole display. I didn't care for the camera and other features of the phone. The current Moto X is larger, but I think the Moto G might still be the smaller size. The Sony Z3 compact is an impressive compact phone. It's hard to find good small phones; people like me who like them are in the minority. I ended up getting an iPhone 5s and like it every much; it's so easy to hold. I hope Apple continues to support this form factor; I don't mind if it's a year old, especially if it's cheaper as well.
 
I suppose I was one of those people that made fun of phablets, now I'm waiting on a 6+. Part of it was maybe that going from a 3.5 inch screen to 5.5 was too big of a leap, maybe it was my usage changed, but I would say I suppose I was a hypocrite
 
Had the 4, loved it, have the 5, love it too. 6 on order just cause while I am happy to be going over 4'' I think the 6+ (and Note) are too big for me. I always liked the Galaxy S4 and 5 in terms of screen size, just preffered staying with ios. So hypocrite or not? :rolleyes:
 
Register on MacRumors! This sidebar will go away, and you'll see fewer ads.