You heard it here first folks! Apple computers are expensive!
You heard it here first folks! Apple computers hold a higher perceived value and you get what you pay for continues to regain legitimacy as Apple continues to grow.
You heard it here first folks! Apple computers are expensive!
But they did nothing wrong. Just they got a boost because a lot of unaccounted for money got added in. That was my understanding. It explain the over billion dollar unexpected jump. Nothing illegal about it just it makes the numbers look bigger in a burst.
You're right. Cadillac uses much better parts these days...
Absolutely. Premium price, same parts. BTW, Asus (the Kia of computers) has a lower fault rate than Apple. Maybe Apple needs to inspect their factories more often.CPU is CPU and RAM is RAM. Apple or any other company has no control over production of computer components. The only thing Apple or any other company has control over is overall design and also they can inspect factories and demand level of quality.
You heard it here first folks! Apple computers hold a higher perceived value and you get what you pay for continues to regain legitimacy as Apple continues to grow.
Like I said 5 years ago high end was 2k. now it is 1k. That tells me the market is shifting downward so what is consider premium is moving down with it.
I think 90% of people paid too much for their hardware then. People buy iMacs because they are all in one, shiny and look nice in their home - there is nothing wrong with this. The specs however are absolutely appalling compared to the current stuff coming out that you could put in a $1000 PC.
For that sort of price on the PC you are looking at i7, HD 5850, USB 3, Blu Ray, 8 GB Ram etc... And if anything needs changing you just open it up and upgrade.
Yes Snow Leopard is good, but so is Windows 7.
I think people would definitely give a thought to buying an iMac if Snow Leopard was available for any system.
Prices reflect state of economy that's it.
You heard it here first folks! Apple computers hold a higher perceived value and you get what you pay for continues to regain legitimacy as Apple continues to grow.
Absolutely. Premium price, same parts. BTW, Asus (the Kia of computers) has a lower fault rate than Apple. Maybe Apple needs to inspect their factories more often.
Absolutely. Premium price, same parts. BTW, Asus (the Kia of computers) has a lower fault rate than Apple. Maybe Apple needs to inspect their factories more often.
you wanna check those $999 price points again..you'd be amazed.
btw. the Mac experience isn't better per se. Its better for some, worse for others but for everyone..its' different.
That is your argument.....Sorry that does not work. I can point out how prices have been dropping for over 10 years and speed and power have been increase.
Speed has gone up and memory has gone up and prices have been dropping.
10 years ago it was not unheard of to see an entry level computer was 1200. 15 years ago entry level was near $1500-1600.
Sorry it is not the economy on why that is the way it is. That is the way computers are. A bad economy just cause sales of the high end stuff to general drop. Not the price point.
Go tell those other companies to get a better marketing department or those Apple have a 100 percent monopoly on marketers?gee this should be fun... what are you paying for then?
Ive's razors?
Schillers' burgers?
Cook's speech lessons?
Jobs ego?
The constant yellow screen repairs?
new iPhone cases?
Apple has created a club like mystique about their products that appeal to a certain demographic of consumer, they sell an image and a vision of 'ease' which is rarely matched by the product itself.
The are perfect for the modern world... shiny and cool sells.
There are companies out there with better products and better prices that just don't know how to sell them or create that image.
I applaud them for their business acumen. Getting this many people to believe the hype is a feat of true awe.
the products...not so much. I can buy cheap chinese crap anywhere, I just expect them to be..ya know...cheap.!
But that's the point. In a free market goods will sell for what the seller can get. The "worth" of something is reflected in the price. The fact that Apple can get 5-10% of the market despite charging so much says something - Acer, HP, Dell, etc. would price their machines over $1000 if they could get away with it.
This sounds like a ridiculous statistic.
Most PCs aren't overpriced like macs, so it's obvious that PC buyers don't need to spend as much for the same level of performance.
CorrectIf the NPD numbers tell us anything, it's that Apple computers are more expensive than other PC's,
Not necessarily the case. This is your interpretation of the data. My parent have a Dell notebook and the value proposition of that is nothing like that offered by my MacBook Pro.Iand that Apple is over-charging for what they offer.
You can thank AMD/ATI for the most part on the GPU side. nVidia was king with the G80 (Scary 8800GTX prices). The G92 sold out and hit $309 at worst point. Then ATI came out with the HD 3800 line at $179/219 on launch day. They hit again with the HD 4800 line with half of the transitors of nVidia. ATI sets a point for power consumption and builds a scaleable GPU to that point. Anandtech has a good story on the road to RV 770 and it's still very true today.I think that is my point. 5 years ago a $600-700 computer was consider entry level. Now that is mid range. Mid range 5-5.5 years ago was $1500. I built my PC 5.5 years ago at a cost of around $1500 for the tower and all and all it was just a mid range computer back then.
The monitor was $500. 5.5 years a go a high end 17in LCD monitor was $500. That should give people here an idea on how quickly prices drops.
I would not be surpised in 5 years time to see apple market to have shunk. a $1000 is premuim now. That puts $2000+ top of the line area. 5 years ago that price point was $3000. As top of the line prices start heading down it starts showing.
Yeah which is why there is a far outcry from iphone users outside America. You know 60 percent of iphones are sold outside the shores of America. How the **** do you Blackberry users on AT&T aren't complaining. Maybe because no one gives a damn about the blackberry. The iphone coughs and its nightly news on CNN!280m computers will be sold worldwide, Apple will take 12m of that...work it out.
not many people really.....for record numbers.
highest satisfaction ratings..?
well seeing as the survey sample will be small, a few things to consider...
1/ Are PC users, when stating their happiness or not comparing the OS or the hardware or both..?
2/ Mac users are rarely rational. There was a guy who had his logic board replaced 5 times (another MR thread) on his MB and was still delighted with it.!
3/ iPhone issues are really just AT&T issues despite no BB complainers and they sell more!
listen fella, I know I won't change your mind, I'm not trying to. I hope it all works out well for you.
just wanted to let you know that there's a dozen or so of us over here laughing like mad at you with your Mac obsession.
You know when people say they hate Mac users? look in the mirror....its you!
I'm still on my first laptop, from 2007 ish but definately before june 07, and it's running Vista, quite strong. I built this laptop specifically for my need.
My XP netbook has been relatively trouble-free, but it is pokey. However, I bought it for its size and its 9-hour battery life, not its performance. I rest easy taking this thing with me on weekend road trips, both because I know the battery will last and also that if anything were to happen and my netbook were damaged or stolen, I'm only out a small amount of money and my files are still safely at home.
There was, however, the one virus incident that I had to clean up. Not sure how that happened, but that discovery was roughly coincident with the time I let my friend's teenage daughter use it to surf for a few hours...
....not good for us. Why are we so 'happy' that Apple can retain high prices? Give me an Apple....at a PC price!
Considering most of them were at one time Windows users and *are* Windows users in the workplace. When, exactly, did the irrationality kick in? Was it on the 6th or 7th re-install of Windows? How many spyware cleanings does it take? Etc.
Other manufacturers must be having a freak!
Exactly Microsoft is making all the profits while the hardware companies are struggling to get buy. No wonder many are folding up shop are getting bought up. We've seen this with Compaq, Packard Bell, Getway, and IBM. More and more PC manufacturers will be folding up shop or getting bought. Scrapping at the bottom for scraps can only take you so far.So how does this help the PC manufacturers? The average selling price is going down, despite Windows 7 OEM licenses being more expensive than the XP licenses they have replaced, which means they earn even less now. MS having good sales due to accumulated 9 years of pent-up demand is not exactly great news, especially since Apple still grows at twice the rate of the market as a whole.