Geographically speaking yes, but what good is that as a statistic?
Europe has over TWICE the population of the United States.
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NY Times Confirms Verizon iPhone for Next Year
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Geographically speaking yes, but what good is that as a statistic?
Europe has over TWICE the population of the United States.
CDMA does exist outside the US. Canada, Mexico, parts of South America, New Zealand, Israel, China, South Korea, I could go on.
In 2005 i roamed in New Zealand with my Sprint Treo. Worked perfectly.
I have to wonder...too little, too late? It's barely October and yet it won't be for sale till "early next year" which likely March-June sometime...which would also make the iPhone 4 a bit old (updates usually in June/July).
We've all been hearing/hoping of the Verizon move for 2 years now. But I'm not sure if there will be much allure for the iPhone 4 next year with all the Android competition.
Sure, there'll be huge amounts of ATT people that switch (like me next Sep) to Verizon simply because Verizon blows away ATT for coverage (I'm in New England). And the people (like me) that wanted an iPhone 4 yet ATT has be price gouging me to "upgrade" even though I'm more than 12 months into my 2-year contract. So those are 2 examples of why folks will leave ATT...but it's not really new iPhone customers. Sure, Apple will "sell" more iPhones but at the end of the day the "number of people using an iPhone" may not go up as much as folks think.
Hate to sound like Mr. Negative but I think for a lot of reasons, it will be exciting news (when Verizon ACTUALLY happens) for about 2 weeks.
We've all been hearing/hoping of the Verizon move for 2 years now. But I'm not sure if there will be much allure for the iPhone 4 next year with all the Android competition.
Sure, there'll be huge amounts of ATT people that switch (like me next Sep) to Verizon simply because Verizon blows away ATT for coverage (I'm in New England). And the people (like me) that wanted an iPhone 4 yet ATT has be price gouging me to "upgrade" even though I'm more than 12 months into my 2-year contract. So those are 2 examples of why folks will leave ATT...but it's not really new iPhone customers. Sure, Apple will "sell" more iPhones but at the end of the day the "number of people using an iPhone" may not go up as much as folks think.
Hate to sound like Mr. Negative but I think for a lot of reasons, it will be exciting news (when Verizon ACTUALLY happens) for about 2 weeks.
I used to get psyched when I heard Verizon rumors. Then I bought a MiFi through them and guess what...same crappy customer service, strange billing practices, and random dead spots as AT&T.
Maybe we should hope for Sprint or T-Mobile to get the iPhone. But I'm guessing they're the same too.
I'll just enjoy my iPhone for being awesome in itself and not sweat the carrier since they all probably equally blow.
Maybe we should hope for Sprint or T-Mobile to get the iPhone. But I'm guessing they're the same too.
I'll just enjoy my iPhone for being awesome in itself and not sweat the carrier since they all probably equally blow.
I wonder if this was a sanctioned and 'approved' leak by Apple to let the masses know what's happening and to foil the holiday sales of Android devices and other smart phones, if the masses knew they could get the iPhone on Verizon in a few short months?
+++ this is the answer. I won't be upgrading my rooted Eris now; I will wait for the iphone. So will a lot of Verizon smartphone consumers. YMMV. (I live in Western Virginia and AT&T service is unusable unless you never leave metro areas. And there are not a lot of metro areas.)
Get the lawyers out, Steve!!!!
Someone has to be sued - I have no idea who - but someone... someone out there needs to be sued!
It's the Apple way, after all!
(yes - this is a sarcastic post)
Someone has to be sued - I have no idea who - but someone... someone out there needs to be sued!
It's the Apple way, after all!
(yes - this is a sarcastic post)
i just want to see what happens with data rate plans. more carriers with the iphone will mean competition to lure customers, hopefully resulting in lower plan rates. thethering in specific is ridiculously expensive.
I have difficulty believing that Apple would go through the trouble of making a special CMDA iPhone just for Verizon (the company that originally snubbed Apple's iPhone proposal), when LTE is only a year or so away. With both Verizon and AT&T adopting the same LTE standard, Apple could make just one phone for both networks. At that point, it would make sense for Verizon to carry the iPhone.
Plus, doesn't Verizon have the CMDA problem of not being able to handle data and voice simultaneously? It seems like that would make FaceTime inoperable (when Apple allows it to work over cell networks).
Plus, doesn't Verizon have the CMDA problem of not being able to handle data and voice simultaneously? It seems like that would make FaceTime inoperable (when Apple allows it to work over cell networks).
Hopefully they will put the 4G LTE chip in the phone. If not, it is going to lagging bad on Verizon's 3G network. Verizon needs to hurry up on their data speeds they are lagging behind AT&T on the 3G side.
That would be nice. Many of Verizon's smartphones over the past year or two have been dual mode CDMA + GSM. However, I cannot see Apple agreeing to do that. (Unless you meant CDMA + LTE.)
One of the interesting things Verizon has said recently, is that their first LTE handsets will use CDMA for voice, allowing simultaneous data usage.
They did say that such handsets would not arrive with the LTE debut this Fall, but in early 2011. Hmm. Right around rumored time.
I keep half joking that any such CDMA+LTE iPhone would be called the "iPhone V", a word play on Verizon and Roman numeral "5". Lots of ad possibilities.
Not a good example, because it's incorrect.
She absolutely can flip over to another (non-Internet) app while on the Incredible's speakerphone. I just tried it.
She'd do it in almost exactly the same way as on the iPhone: either click Home and then the Nav icon again, or hold down Home (similar to double-click Home on iOS 4) and choose Nav from the list of running apps.
Either way would've brought the still-running GPS app to the foreground for her, from which she could've read directions for her friend.
You can't really say that when you have no concept of what's really going on behind the scenes. For all we know, AT&T's and Apple's contract could have been one of 2 years, with Apple engaged in negotiations with Verizon ever since 2009. You just don't know.
What hell are you talking about? Changing the app makes no difference when there is no internet service to find. If you're on a call, on Verizon, GPS is done until you hang up. These are all AGPS modules after all, and need the internet to function, even if the maps aren't being downloaded (which they are, usually). Worst concept for a modern smartphone, and the fact that its not yet fixed shows a lack of commitment to customer needs. Its coming is not an answer, as their root technology prevents it. Verizon is also arrogant enough to try and downplay this feature, as if it would be no big deal if the Verizon iPhone couldn't do it for a year or so...
I hope Apple tells them to go scratch.
LMAO, it's pathetic to see some of these butthurt, whining fanboys cry about "Bwaaahhh! No way can iPhone come to another carrier, and therefore be accessible to more people, and therefore others can have the same phone I have! Bwaaaa!!!"
Like, does it really effect your life that much, for the iPhone to be on Verizon?
Get a life.
I think some of them just worry about market saturation to the point where people start to turn away from something. Some people want everyone to carry the same phone and look the same. Some people want to look different and have different choices others operate on a herd mentality.
As for me I think I will stick with Android for awhile and see where it is going. I already have an iPod Touch and an iPad so that gives me enough iOS devices to play with. I might as well have a phone that is different to play with.
If the Verizon iPhone launches (I'll believe it when I see it) there is a good chance that Android handset builders will be hurt severely. Not because there are not great Android phones, but because sometimes people operate with a herd mentality when it comes to gadgets. If Apple can get the iPhone on enough carriers there is a chance they could get at least 70-80% market share. That is all fine and dandy, but at that point we all become dependent on Apple and people will just buy the product because everyone else owns one. It will be interesting to watch.
We do know this:
4 generations of iPhones have launched without a mention of Verizon.
Apple is not going to launch an iPhone that is anything less than what Steve Jobs says an iPhone is.
Verizon is an arrogant company that makes poor decisions that affect is customer base. This is way they do not already have the iPhone.
Seems to me, a Verizon iPhone is a very unlikely thing.
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My question is, what model iPhone would they use to kick off their debut? The current iPhone 4?
If so, early adopters will (like always) be pissed when the iPhone 5 hits the market a few months later. :/
My question is, what model iPhone would they use to kick off their debut? The current iPhone 4?
If so, early adopters will (like always) be pissed when the iPhone 5 hits the market a few months later. :/
Yea ok. You keep on that one.
Apple makes a successful product that people WANT to buy, rather than crap plastic android garbage, it must be a herd mentality. It could never just be better than every other option on the market.
Good grief.
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You aren't subtracting all of the area taken up the mountains, hills, and hillbillies!
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You aren't subtracting all of the area taken up the mountains, hills, and hillbillies!
Always waiting for the next thing.
Does anyone live their life in the moment anymore?
1) Go lookup VoRA and SVDO. Verizon has multiple options available to bring simultaneous voice+data to the iPhone.
2) Facetime doesn't use a voice channel, it's 100% data.
No, they are 2 different technologies so one will not affect the other being locked or not. Even if they were on the same technology, our #### carriers in the US wouldn't allow them to be unlocked.
Yea ok. You keep on that one.
Apple makes a successful product that people WANT to buy, rather than crap plastic android garbage, it must be a herd mentality. It could never just be better than every other option on the market.
Good grief.
Looks like you bought into it. The iPhone is great today only because there is good competition coming from Android phone makers. If enough people follow what their friends do and buy an iPhone and Apple can take something like 80% of the smartphone market do you really think they are going to keep innovating at the same pace? Nope. Why? Because it won't matter. Everyone will buy an iPhone just because it is an iPhone.
But then there's another side to the coin.
Rumors of a Verizon iPhone have been mentioned each generation, only gaining in preponderance. There's a reason for that.
Arrogance has less to do with it at this stage. Verizon knows the iPhone is a money maker. They want to make money. Apple knows they need to tap into other carriers to remain evermore current. Apple loves its mobile market share. To prevail at the same level as Android, Apple knows it needs to spread out. Verizon will assure prevalence.
So sure, Verizon was arrogant with the iPhone's genesis. But that has all changed.