NYPD Expected to Replace 35,000+ Windows Phones With iPhones Starting This Year

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  1. MacRumors macrumors bot


    Apr 12, 2001

    Less than a year after completing a rollout of Windows Phones to its entire police force, New York City Police Department officials plan to begin replacing them with iPhones by the end of the year, according to the New York Post.

    Image: NYPD via YouTube

    The report didn't specify whether the NYPD will opt to use one of Apple's latest iPhone models, or an older model like the iPhone 6. Apple is also widely rumored to announce the so-called iPhone 8 with an OLED display in September, although the high-end device may be out of the department's price range.

    In October 2014, New York City mayor Bill de Blasio and other officials announced plans to roll out 35,000 handheld devices to every NYPD officer for the first time ever, along with tablets for every patrol car. De Blasio said the major $160 million initiative would help bring the department into the 21st century.

    The NYPD's smartphones of choice were Nokia's Lumia 830 and Lumia 640 XL, released in October 2014 and March 2015 respectively. The since-discontinued devices run Windows Phone 8.1, which Microsoft ended support for in July to focus on its newer Windows 10 Mobile platform and cloud-based services.

    The devices provide police officers with expanded search capabilities, including access to the majority of NYPD databases, and the ability to conduct various record checks from the field in a timelier manner. The devices also provide real-time 911 call data, often prior to radio dispatch, the department said in 2014.

    The NYPD's choice of Windows Phones raised some eyebrows given iOS and Android combined have over 99 percent market share of smartphone operating systems, according to research firm IDC.

    The department insisted on Microsoft-based smartphones in part because it was already using Microsoft software to run the video-surveillance program at its Lower Manhattan Security Initiative Command Center, according to the New York Post. The devices were also more affordable than iPhones.

    A spokesman for the NYPD said the department wouldn't comment on the matter until its Deputy Commissioner of Information Technology Jessica Tisch returned from vacation later today, the report said.

    Update: The New York Police Department has confirmed it will begin transitioning to iPhones for its 36,000 police officers in the fall. It also said its mobility initiative has made NYPD police officers "more agile" in their response to 911 calls, with response times down more than 8 percent.

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  2. tcgjeukens macrumors regular


    May 16, 2007
    Esbeek, the Netherlands
  3. rpe33 macrumors regular

    Jul 19, 2012
    Ah, so they were the ones still using Windows Phones.
  4. 0023828 Suspended

    Jul 1, 2014
  5. TroyBoy30 macrumors 68020


    Jun 9, 2009
    Atlanta GA
    im just amazed there are still windows phones in use
  6. tsrail macrumors newbie

    Nov 21, 2011
    Next year, I hear they are going to switch to Blackberry.
  7. bjoswald macrumors regular


    Jul 21, 2016
    Why did they bother with Windows Phone to begin with?
  8. NIKKG macrumors 6502


    Feb 23, 2012
    Microsoft screwed this up big time. It's amazing they still make alot of money these days.
  9. Jax44 macrumors 6502a


    Jul 24, 2010
    Carmel, California
    Because it worked better with their new horse and buggy patrol vehicles.
  10. Anijake macrumors 6502


    Oct 19, 2008
    Brooklyn, NY
    This is NYC, there was probably a kickback or payoff to someone.
  11. Mdec96 macrumors newbie

    Aug 28, 2017
    Funny you should mention that. The windows phone replaced black berry for the NYPD!
  12. DevNull0, Aug 28, 2017
    Last edited: Aug 28, 2017

    DevNull0 macrumors 68000

    Jan 6, 2015
    Not sure exactly what you mean.

    How many times has the average person on this forum, myself included, paid for an iPhone? I bought the first gen iPad maxed out with 64 gig of flash and the cellular version; hardly being cheap there. And just a couple of years later it needed to be replaced.

    NYPD apparently bought windows phones a few years ago in 2014 paying $160 million for 35,000 units. iPhone would have been in the same ballpark, they hardly took the cheaper way out, it's time to replace them now and they're choosing to buy iPhones. What does this have to do with a cheap person paying twice?
  13. akadafni macrumors regular

    Nov 8, 2015
    It's a lot easier to have the officers use dept issued devices that can be setup with Mobile Device Management Software. They can deploy many more devices at once. All devices will have the same software. They can keep personal vs company issues completely separate. They would all be capable of FT/IM. Just a few things.
  14. Joe Rossignol Editor

    Joe Rossignol

    Staff Member

    May 12, 2012
    Is that true?

    It was my understanding that Windows Phones were the NYPD's first-ever smartphones, at least for the entire force.
  15. Mdec96 macrumors newbie

    Aug 28, 2017
    It was the first phone issued to every officer, but Blackberry had been the standard for executives and quite a few other ranks depending on assignments
  16. DevNull0 macrumors 68000

    Jan 6, 2015
    They're quoting him from 2014 when they bought the windows phones, saying the windows phones will bring them into the 21st century. That was back when they introduced 911/dispatch info as well as police databases to the phone. In 2014. That quote is not talking about going from the windows phone to the iPhone now.
  17. marco114 macrumors 6502


    Jul 17, 2001
    I am sure if they talked to Apple directly, they could get a deal on those phones.
  18. 576316 macrumors 601

    May 19, 2011
    Imagine being forced to use a Windows Phone. Blurgh. :p
  19. napabar macrumors 6502


    Jun 12, 2008
    The article specifically mentioned the Windows phones were cheaper. Did you even read it?

    Hence, if you go the cheap route, you'll pay more in the long run.
  20. Scottsoapbox macrumors 6502a


    Oct 10, 2014
    Because then you have to support a bunch of different devices and more than one OS.
  21. tcgjeukens macrumors regular


    May 16, 2007
    Esbeek, the Netherlands
    This may be true for non-sensitive (data) applications controllable by MDMS. The police will run most of their applications in a secure bubble device independent environment (a kind of VM). Runs on all devices/ platforms.
    Best to create an environment independent of vendor software update cycles. As a business you don't want to get stuck by non functioning apparatus simply because the manufacturer pulls the plug (because Tim or Lee wants you to buy a new device).
  22. benroberts3 macrumors member

    Oct 18, 2012
    Kansas City
    What an absolute waste of tax payer dollars to have choosen windows phones.

    This is the type of clueless leadership that doesn't clearly think through how to future proof their technology requirements and better equip officers with stable and functional tools.
  23. BeefCake 15 macrumors 65816

    BeefCake 15

    May 15, 2015
    near Boston, MA
    But iPhones have the evil encryption they're all fighting against!
  24. magbarn macrumors 68000

    Oct 25, 2008
    No the TAXPAYER pays twice
  25. mdelvecchio macrumors 68040


    Sep 3, 2010
    What is the name of this “secure bubble” software for mobile apps that you’re referring to? What sort of mobile VM is there that runs on all the mobile OS platforms?

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