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What now? They snap chat and instagram every time they pull someone over?

(During robbery event)
Cop woman1: "do my hair look okay?"
Cop woman 2:"you look so cute."
-bang- -bang-

Cop 1: let's snap -snap- look I got 1k followers.
 
Is that true?

It was my understanding that Windows Phones were the NYPD's first-ever smartphones, at least for the entire force.

I can't speak for NYPD, but I can for certain tell you at DHS our Windows Phones, issued around November of 2015, replaced our BlackBerry devices. And we had those for almost seven years.

Honestly, the only reason Research in Motion lasted as long as they did was because of pricey Verizon contracts and poor judgement (along with IT laziness) from the United States Government.
 
Most MDM/EMM solutions include a containerization solution that separates corporate and personal data. These are dedicated apps that provide access to corporate email, file storage, etc.

This is done, not only to protect corporate data from loss/leakage out through the user's personal apps or services; but also to provide the ability to perform a "selective wipe" instead of having to factory reset the whole device should it be lost, stolen, or the employee leave the organization.

Here is Airwatch Container, the industry de-facto standard for MDM, containerization solution: https://www.air-watch.com/downloads/resources/airWatch_container_brochure.pdf
While this is true, concerning the functionality of EMM/MDM, it fails to mention that additional development that would be required for the other platforms.The containers do not provide cross-platform apps, but rather the API/SDK's to secure the traffic from the end points.
 
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I can't speak for NYPD, but I can for certain tell you at DHS our Windows Phones, issued around November of 2015, replaced our BlackBerry devices. And we had those for almost seven years.

Honestly, the only reason Research in Motion lasted as long as they did was because of pricey Verizon contracts and poor judgement (along with IT laziness) from the United States Government.

Not all the government we're cycling of BB and moving to iPhone in my little part of fedgov
 
Not sure exactly what you mean.

How many times has the average person on this forum, myself included, paid for an iPhone? I bought the first gen iPad maxed out with 64 gig of flash and the cellular version; hardly being cheap there. And just a couple of years later it needed to be replaced.

NYPD apparently bought windows phones a few years ago in 2014 paying $160 million for 35,000 units. iPhone would have been in the same ballpark, they hardly took the cheaper way out, it's time to replace them now and they're choosing to buy iPhones. What does this have to do with a cheap person paying twice?

Changing an entire computing platform for a major organization like NYPD after just one year is not the same as you personally buying a new iPad just because you wanted something a little faster and lighter. It is such a false equivalency that it barely merits rebuttal.
 
so lets say they switch to iPhones... does that mean they will upgrade the entire force every year to the next newer model up or do they keep them for a few years first?

There's no way in heck they'd upgrade the phones every year! Maybe every 3 years or so.
 
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What is the name of this “secure bubble” software for mobile apps that you’re referring to? What sort of mobile VM is there that runs on all the mobile OS platforms?

We use the Good suite of applications which is now owned by Blackberry. Works very well and works across iOS, Android and Windows phone.
 
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No the TAXPAYER pays twice

Actually, even if the NYPD paid once the taxpayer would have paid the same...and the NYPD could have done something else.
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Clearly NYC and the NYPD weren't thinking of future proofing due to the fact they chose WINDOWS phones. Also many municipalities dont update their technology and software as rapidly as other types of organization. Allowing BYOD does not guarantee interoperability, software compatibility or future proofing. IMO

This was likely years in the making. They're a MS shop, and MS's consultants should have known better.
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I can't speak for NYPD, but I can for certain tell you at DHS our Windows Phones, issued around November of 2015, replaced our BlackBerry devices. And we had those for almost seven years.

Honestly, the only reason Research in Motion lasted as long as they did was because of pricey Verizon contracts and poor judgement (along with IT laziness) from the United States Government.

The same team of people who pushed your Windows Phones at DHS pushed these at NYPD, by the way.
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Not all the government we're cycling of BB and moving to iPhone in my little part of fedgov

The next step will undoubtedly be BYOD, before even all of the government has moved to another platform.
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BYOD sounds fine for email or something. But I'm not sure I'd want a police force having "random" ability to perform their job- hey I couldn't use this resource because my daughter updated my phone to iOS 11 beta 3, which makes Stop&Frisk.app crash...
When you enroll a device in BYOD, you're going to have to treat that device responsibly. A cop doesn't let his/her kid play with their radio, gun, or badge. And this will be no different.
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If Google/Alphabet ever comes out with a desktop version of Android, Windows will be toast.

It would take a decade for an Android desktop OS to be capable of replacing Windows in the Enterprise if it launched today. It's likely never, ever going to happen.
 
Money talks (well, cheapness of devices).

Until, after use, they turn out to be crap.
 
They should have gone with Android. It's such a no brainer. Lots of quality, affordable sets and even rugged options like the Galaxy active series. Windows phone never had a future. They were too late to the party and by then both iOS and Android were the only real game in town. They should have invested in surveillance software on Linux/Android instead but Windows still has a stranglehold in enterprise. It's also the OS that most people are comfortable using since it never required buying proprietary hardware to run it.
 
Changing an entire computing platform for a major organization like NYPD after just one year is not the same as you personally buying a new iPad just because you wanted something a little faster and lighter. It is such a false equivalency that it barely merits rebuttal.

2014 was not last year.
 
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Not sure exactly what you mean.

How many times has the average person on this forum, myself included, paid for an iPhone? I bought the first gen iPad maxed out with 64 gig of flash and the cellular version; hardly being cheap there. And just a couple of years later it needed to be replaced.

NYPD apparently bought windows phones a few years ago in 2014 paying $160 million for 35,000 units. iPhone would have been in the same ballpark, they hardly took the cheaper way out, it's time to replace them now and they're choosing to buy iPhones. What does this have to do with a cheap person paying twice?
That saying means if you buy something crappy, you'll end up paying again for something else. If they all bought iPhones they wouldn't be replacing all of them right now ... so they're paying again ... it's not a hard concept.
 
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That saying means if you buy something crappy, you'll end up paying again for something else. If they all bought iPhones they wouldn't be replacing all of them right now ... so they're paying again ... it's not a hard concept.

So if they bought iPhones back in 2014 when they bought the windows phones, they wouldn't be replacing them right now?

Somebody needs to notify Tim Cook, 3 years is too soon to replace iPhones. His reliance on a 2 year update cycle is a disaster and Apple is Doomed.
 
Why not a more modern BYOD approach?

these phones would have internal access software on them that they won't want anyone accessing off hours. plus what if the officer lost his phone, he's not going to be happy about IT remote erasing it and all his pics of his kids, which you know he never bothered to backup
 
Probably budget had some part on the decision by the NYPD.

But, from my enterprise experience, I place the blame squarely on: Untrained pseudo computer-science technicians.

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Technicians don't steer enterprises. Executives do. While there are certainly platform zealots in technical roles, executive, C-level employees should definitely be beyond such things.
 
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