Canada's getting the iPhone, it's all up to Rogers right now. They have the deal with Apple but there Data Plan rates are expensive. Don't understand the whole SJ likes seeing Canadian's suffer.
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O2 to Launch iPhone in Ireland
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Canada's getting the iPhone, it's all up to Rogers right now. They have the deal with Apple but there Data Plan rates are expensive. Don't understand the whole SJ likes seeing Canadian's suffer.
It might have something to do with Ireland being the richest non oil producing country?
And not really island, I assume they got them in the North when the UK got them
I thought something out. If the iPhone is launched on March 14th, for 399 and 499, don't except a price drop at the Apple Event March 6th
There is no official tariff chart yet on the Ireland O2 site. At least none that I could find (apart from the iPhone prices).
If it is not on that when they publish it it would be very strange.
It would be very strange if they don't offer Visual Voicemail but I'll count on it that they will!
There is no official tariff chart yet on the Ireland O2 site. At least none that I could find (apart from the iPhone prices).
If it is not on that when they publish it it would be very strange.
Correct, they've had them in the North since the UK launch. Plus there are a lot of people using unlocked phones here. It's so cheap to get to the US now and the Dollar is so weak that they are a bargain there. 399 Dollars or 399 Euro?!
Our tarrifs are robbery here. As is everything else, cars especially. I'll give you an indication.
Take the new BMW M3. US$57,000. Here? €110,000!!!
Their website says that Visual Voicemail wont be supported.
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What the hell... Ireland, population 4.2 million, Canada, population 34 million... you would think that the Northern neighbor sharing the same landmass as Apple's hometown would register higher up on the priority scale for getting the iPhone launched here...
My god those are stingy tariffs!
Want our German tariffs in exchange?
Ok lets just make this news in one post.
Crapp tariffs, 1GB data, no visual voicemail and expensive euro vs getting one from the US.
Dont buy this people, get one from the US and unlock. I never thought I'd say it but **** Apple
Crapp tariffs, 1GB data, no visual voicemail and expensive euro vs getting one from the US.
Dont buy this people, get one from the US and unlock. I never thought I'd say it but **** Apple
Thanks! I was looking for that earlier but couldn't find it.
That is a bummer.
Funny thing is that if they do introduce it later they will probably charge for it.
Domestic generally means as long as you stay in the country, but I can see them basically putting in the same rules as Suncom has. And yeah, $99 for the whole family for unlimited talking wasn't going to happen (at least yet), so that's no surprise. Even if you have to stay in a 'local' calling area to get unlimited voice that's still generally a pretty good deal, especially if you get some amount of roaming minutes with it.
I just checked ATTs site and it says 'nationwide' unlimited voice. Bad advertising?
Rate Plan Details
Anytime Minutes Unlimited
Night & Weekend minutes Unlimited
Mobile to Mobile minutes Unlimited
Long Distance $0.00
Roaming Charges $0.00
Additional minutes $.00 per minute
One-time activation fee $36.00
Contract length 2 years
You'd have to be drunk to sign up for an iphone in Ireland with those tariff prices but having recently moved to County Donegal I've realized that even getting the internet itself at speeds more than 8 Meg line is a challenge in of itself. I used to think UK prices where a complete rip off but having moved over the border into the south it’s a bloody joke. For example, talk talk in the UK offer FREE internet at home on 'up to 8meg' line however down south in the republic they offer a standard of 1meg line and that's not even Free...
I think I’ll just stick to my unlocked iPhone for now and hope the new SDK will offer some options for VOIP.
I think I’ll just stick to my unlocked iPhone for now and hope the new SDK will offer some options for VOIP.
I've had my iPhone since launch day here in the US and I've only used 550MB down and 103MB up. 1GB of data is a lot more than people think. I think you would have a seriously hard time trying to use 1GB of data per month.
Me want to live in Ireland
These tariffs are so much cheaper than the German ones.
What bugs me most about the German tariffs is that once T-Mobile has f*cked you over good, they charge .29 for each additional minute. Competitors charge .10/min with NO monthly fee.
Bear in mind, this is not Apple's fault. T-Mobile screws all customers with this plan: flat-rate, no rollover and don't dare to reach excess minutes or we will triple-charge you!
These tariffs are so much cheaper than the German ones.
What bugs me most about the German tariffs is that once T-Mobile has f*cked you over good, they charge .29 for each additional minute. Competitors charge .10/min with NO monthly fee.
Bear in mind, this is not Apple's fault. T-Mobile screws all customers with this plan: flat-rate, no rollover and don't dare to reach excess minutes or we will triple-charge you!
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Wow! Apple tries to rip-off totally! And client has to pay for iPhone first, then monthly fee.... oh my...
There is no iPhone in Finland yet (smile Nokia ), but with such plans only few would consider to buy it.
An example of my plan:
500 mins calls
100 sms
extra minutes: 0,09 eurocent
extra sms: 0,08 eurocent
20
+ unlimited data (up to 384 kb/s) - 10
It makes 30 for the whole thing.
Extra sms packages also available (cheap).
Let's say I want Nokia N95 8GB (or coming soon N96) I will have to pay additionaly 15 monthly with 2 years contract! But I don't have to pay 500 extra in the beginning ;-)
Hopefully Apple will reconsider its iPhone price politic (and all european Apple store prices - AppleTV 229$ in the US - 299 in Europe).
Wow! Apple tries to rip-off totally! And client has to pay for iPhone first, then monthly fee.... oh my...
There is no iPhone in Finland yet (smile Nokia
), but with such plans only few would consider to buy it.An example of my plan:
500 mins calls
100 sms
extra minutes: 0,09 eurocent
extra sms: 0,08 eurocent
20
+ unlimited data (up to 384 kb/s) - 10
It makes 30 for the whole thing.
Extra sms packages also available (cheap).
Let's say I want Nokia N95 8GB (or coming soon N96) I will have to pay additionaly 15 monthly with 2 years contract! But I don't have to pay 500 extra in the beginning ;-)
Hopefully Apple will reconsider its iPhone price politic (and all european Apple store prices - AppleTV 229$ in the US - 299 in Europe).
Which data tariff are you on Vodafone ES?
I'm seriously considering getting an "black-market" iPhone and i'm currently on Vodafone ES so I would prefer not to change to Yoigo's 1eur/day data plan.
But you forget the dataplan, With Base in Belgium you pay 25 euro for the first GB and 0,10 per extra MB (= 100 euro/extra GB). O2 is asking 'only' 0,02 per extra MB = 20 euro per extra GB.
Belgium is way to expensive for a data hungry iPhone, we need a 3G iPhone and new tariffs.
It's not too surprising that it's launching so soon in Ireland, with O2 already having rolled the iPhone out in the UK, going with the same operator here presumably simplifies the wheeling 'n' dealing side of this.
The fact that Ireland is one of the richer European countries, and one of those with very high mobile ownership (well over 100% mobile-contracts to population ratio) probably helped too.
Pity it's such a rip-off though. 1GB is simply inadequate. I've been using the mobile-broadband for a few months (a 3G modem with price-plan) and have been struggling to keep my usage below 10GB, never mind 1GB!
That said, a 2G (or 2.5G) is slow much slower, it'll take a lot longer to hit that limit!
The fact that Ireland is one of the richer European countries, and one of those with very high mobile ownership (well over 100% mobile-contracts to population ratio) probably helped too.
Pity it's such a rip-off though. 1GB is simply inadequate. I've been using the mobile-broadband for a few months (a 3G modem with price-plan) and have been struggling to keep my usage below 10GB, never mind 1GB!
That said, a 2G (or 2.5G) is slow much slower, it'll take a lot longer to hit that limit!
well this is interesting .. no visual voicemail. It might seem like a small thing, but VV is one of the things Apple touted as making the iPhone different when it was introduced (and I don't necessarily disagree, it sounds like a very good feature). It seemed to me at the time one of the arguments for Apple to actually 'partner' with someone instead of just releasing an unlocked phone.
Is there anything which phone unlockers lost from the whole designed iPhone experience apart from Visual Voicemail? I kind of thought that was pretty much the only thing which didn't work.
So, if this is true, what's the difference between an unlocked iPhone in Ireland and a legitimately released one, apart from some peace of mind?
I read the comments in the other article about why apple paired with one carrier on release (impractical to ship a GSM and CDMA version of the phone) and how they aren't wedded to one business model. I put both of these things together, add in the reportedly failed negotiations for revenue sharing in China and possibly other countries, the prevalence of one standard (GSM) in other countries and think that Apple is going to change course on the way it sells iPhone. Visual Voicemail was pretty much the only thing a carrier had to support to be different, I think they're going to start just selling the phones to be used on any GSM platform and letting the market dictate success.
Is there anything which phone unlockers lost from the whole designed iPhone experience apart from Visual Voicemail? I kind of thought that was pretty much the only thing which didn't work.
So, if this is true, what's the difference between an unlocked iPhone in Ireland and a legitimately released one, apart from some peace of mind?
I read the comments in the other article about why apple paired with one carrier on release (impractical to ship a GSM and CDMA version of the phone) and how they aren't wedded to one business model. I put both of these things together, add in the reportedly failed negotiations for revenue sharing in China and possibly other countries, the prevalence of one standard (GSM) in other countries and think that Apple is going to change course on the way it sells iPhone. Visual Voicemail was pretty much the only thing a carrier had to support to be different, I think they're going to start just selling the phones to be used on any GSM platform and letting the market dictate success.
Dont buy this people, get one from the US and unlock. I never thought I'd say it but **** Apple
Leaving the retail cost of the 'phone aside, I think the ones you need to blame here are O2. If it was the margin that Apple are charging, surely the UK tariffs with the same company would be higher?
I'd imagine that O2's Irish network just won't support visual voicemail at this point and that they'll roll it out later. Of course, they might not bother....
