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Maybe I'll tweet to support them.



Boohoo, you got a subsidised phone and have to fulfill your contracts before getting a new one. Oh the horror.

What makes any of you so special that you think Apple or O2 should take a financial hit just because you want their latest phone?

Yes, it's an expensive phone and that's the closest thing to an outrage here. I can't afford it but I'm not out bitching at Apple and mobile carriers over it. I really can't get over some of the collective audacity here.

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I agree in the most part with that, As a 1st gen owner who has been happy to sit through the agreed contract i'm just a bit annoyed that this iphone is so much dearer than the last AND they are adding 6 months onto the contract duration. Greed gets you nowhere.
 
Well maybe if you had an iPhone and you had spent what most of us have spent, you could understand why we are bitching, and just to clarfiy i can afford to buy it!
What you have spent on previous contracts that you have signed up to has nothing to do with anything.

If you thought then, and think now, that the price is too much for you, don't buy it, or wait.

I hope o2 stick to their guns, you're all void of reality.
I agree in the most part with that, As a 1st gen owner who has been happy to sit through the agreed contract i'm just a bit annoyed that this iphone is so much dearer than the last AND they are adding 6 months onto the contract duration. Greed gets you nowhere.
That is a perfectly reasonable critique. Unique in this thread!
 
Well maybe if you had an iPhone and you had spent what most of us have spent, you could understand why we are bitching, and just to clarfiy i can afford to buy it!

How do you know I haven't? And what difference would it make if I had or hadn't? I know a bunch of entitlement issues when I see them.
 
I agree in the most part with that, As a 1st gen owner who has been happy to sit through the agreed contract i'm just a bit annoyed that this iphone is so much dearer than the last AND they are adding 6 months onto the contract duration. Greed gets you nowhere.

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Same here… My original contract with O2 expired last month and I am/was ready to get into another 18 month contract.

But the prices they are asking are very steep.

It just makes me reconsider my spending priorities. :eek:
 
Nobody wants the N97. Everybody wants the iPhone. Key difference, and everyone involved knows it.

The N97 is supposed to be the most hotly anticipated phone of the year so far - according to several news websites.

Since when did the popularity of something justify setting a ridiculous price tag anyway? If people are going to spend over half a grand on a phone, they're going to want the best of the best in both hardware and software.
 
Already on the £30 Contract.

Decided from now on to pay the bit more for a Pay&Go One, and get a Simplicity Sim with Unlimited Data. Will allow me to upgrade every year.
 
You're still paying for the cost of your 3G, and you're doing this bit by bit, month by month until your contract is up. At which point you're free to do as you please.

But if they terminate the contract early they pay off the rest of the subsidy and they pay for all the minutes and texts they will not use. Then they pay again for minutes and texts that they do use in a new contract.

Perhaps there should be an option to pay the off the rest off the subsidy but not pay for the unused minutes and texts on strict condition that a new 18 month contract is entered into.

I didn't want to get into all this so I bought a Pay and Go iPhone so I could upgrade whenever I want to.
 
You crack me up. You guys will never be happy. You've become so used to the concept of getting a crappy incremental Nokia upgrade for absolutely nothing that you've forgotten what you're getting with an iPhone.

When you buy a laptop, or a computer, or a car - or really anything do you go back a year later when a better one comes out a cry that you want special treatment because you want the new one now.

No. Fact - stuff costs money. If you want the latest stuff when it comes out you're gonna pay for it. If you don't then make do and stop crying.

****ing losers... (You weren't booing into your tea when Apple heavily subsidised O2 so you could have a 3G when it came out...) GROW UP!!

Again i think the point of this post is lost on you lot who dont even have an iPhone! and we didnt and do not expect a free upgrade we dont mind paying a price just not the price O2 are saying we are happy to sign up for another 18mths contract and that alone should be worth a cheaper upgrade cost
and yes a customer should be given better treatment if they are loyal to the brand
 
I have no idea how anyone can expect to upgrade their phone after not having it even a year.

It's pretty mind-boggling.

Me? I waited my two years and I'm upgrading at subsidized pricing. That's how it works.


What is so hard to grasp we are expected to upgrade after a year we are Apple fans and you are missing the point we dont want it for free!!! we will pay but why should we pay up our contract? we want to extend it,, imagine a top flight football player with 6 months left on his contract well you can guess the rest the club would do their upmost to get him to sign on the dotted line!
well drop the buy out of contract ***** and let me sign!
 
I have a car that's a few years old. There's a newer one and I like it better. Guess what, I still have to pay off my old loan AND get a new one if I want that new car. Goddamned car companies and banks.

Oh and if you don't have the exact same kind of car as me, you can't possibly understand what I'm saying either.

Bleedin'eck!
 
What is so hard to grasp we are expected to upgrade after a year
No, you're not expected to upgrade after a year. A newer model is available, but that does not mean you are expected to upgrade to it. You can load OS 3.0 on to your existing handset, for free.
we will pay but why should we pay up our contract?
Crazy notion, but maybe you should pay it up because that's what you signed up to?
 
Well maybe if you had an iPhone and you had spent what most of us have spent, you could understand why we are bitching, and just to clarfiy i can afford to buy it!

I have an iPhone. I've spent a lot to have one. I can afford it (lucky me). I have no idea why you are bitching. I have a lot of theories but I don't want to get banned.

Basically: you signed a contract. Either you honour that or you pay your way out. That's the way the real, adult, grown-up world works.
 
Maybe I'll tweet to support them.

I've been thinking the same thing. Of all the mobile carriers I've ever had, O2 treated me best, sometimes better than they were contractually obliged to. Did this lot not read their contracts?

Again i think the point of this post is lost on you lot who dont even have an iPhone! and we didnt and do not expect a free upgrade we dont mind paying a price just not the price O2 are saying we are happy to sign up for another 18mths contract and that alone should be worth a cheaper upgrade cost
and yes a customer should be given better treatment if they are loyal to the brand

I have an iPhone, so hush your pus. You signed a contract, you are now being held to that contract. Face up to it. If you were outraged over the PAYG cost or the crappy contracts then I'd sympathise, but this upgrade situation is standard on O2's contracts. I suggest that next time you read before you sign.
 
I have a car that's a few years old. There's a newer one and I like it better. Guess what, I still have to pay off my old loan AND get a new one if I want that new car. That's how it works.

Oh and if you don't have the exact same kind of car as me, you can't possibly understand what I'm saying either.

Bleedin'eck!

Silly comparsion, if however you had that car on a lease and you wanted to swap it for the new model then you would pay a little deposit and then carry on paying your monthly payment which would be the same as you had paid all those months before! if however you were charged to get out of your lease then pay again i dont think you would be very happy!
again you are missing the point we dont want something for nothing
 
I have an iPhone. I've spent a lot to have one. I can afford it (lucky me). I have no idea why you are bitching. I have a lot of theories but I don't want to get banned.

Basically: you signed a contract. Either you honour that or you pay your way out. That's the way the real, adult, grown-up world works.

Wow agian point lost on you also
 
imagine a top flight football player with 6 months left on his contract well you can guess the rest the club would do their upmost to get him to sign on the dotted line!
well drop the buy out of contract ***** and let me sign!

You are not a top-flight football player. You are just another (very small) number on O2s bottom line. In the, very badly flawed, analogy you present would you expect the club to not have to pay out the remaining 6 months and then the new extension? Because that's what happens. And that's all you are being asked to do. You don't want an extension (that would get added to the end). You want to break your existing contract for free and sign a new one. Well, sorry, but this is the real world, not some unrealistic, sense-of-entitlement driven fantasy.
 
again you are missing the point we dont want something for nothing
You don't grasp the fact that you do want something for nothing. You don't own your iPhone 3G yet, you're still paying for it. Until your contract ends, or you pay up early, this will be the case.
 
I've been thinking the same thing. Of all the mobile carriers I've ever had, O2 treated me best, sometimes better than they were contractually obliged to. Did this lot not read their contracts?



I have an iPhone, so hush your pus. You signed a contract, you are now being held to that contract. Face up to it. If you were outraged over the PAYG cost or the crappy contracts then I'd sympathise, but this upgrade situation is standard on O2's contracts. I suggest that next time you read before you sign.

all small print was read and understood again you are missing the point O2 needs to review the pricing and wording buy out your contract is not the right thing to say..how about please extend your contract with us and we will drop the price again to stress the point we dont want something for nothing
 
What is so hard to grasp we are expected to upgrade after a year we are Apple fans and you are missing the point we dont want it for free!!! we will pay but why should we pay up our contract? we want to extend it,, imagine a top flight football player with 6 months left on his contract well you can guess the rest the club would do their upmost to get him to sign on the dotted line!
well drop the buy out of contract ***** and let me sign!

It's a bit of a flawed analogy because football clubs can sell players who are in contract but not those who aren't so they get them to extend contracts so they don't lose out on any potential transfer fees.

However, coming back to the iPhone, are you saying you would be happy to extend 18 months beyond the current end of your contract? (which would be two years from now). What would you do next year?
Extend another 18 months onto a contract that still has a year to run?

Then another 18 on top of one that has 1.5 years to run, etc, etc
Or are you saying just because you sign up to a new 18 month contract (i.e. not extending your current one) you should get it cheap?

That would make it a 12 month contract then, though and the subsidies are calculated over an 18 month, not a 12 month time period.

I guess O2 should consider 12 month contracts for the people who simply must upgrade every year, but the phone would be more expensive then because they have you tied up for less time...
 
You are not a top-flight football player. You are just another (very small) number on O2s bottom line. In the, very badly flawed, analogy you present would you expect the club to not have to pay out the remaining 6 months and then the new extension? Because that's what happens. And that's all you are being asked to do. You don't want an extension (that would get added to the end). You want to break your existing contract for free and sign a new one. Well, sorry, but this is the real world, not some unrealistic, sense-of-entitlement driven fantasy.

No again point lost we do not want to break our contract for FREE! we will pay but not the price O2 are stating
 
all small print was read and understood again you are missing the point O2 needs to review the pricing and wording buy out your contract is not the right thing to say..how about please extend your contract with us and we will drop the price again to stress the point we dont want something for nothing
But if they just sign you up to a new contracts without you honouring past contracts they will never make money. It's you honouring the entire contract (or buying it out) where the price of the iPhone is covered with profit. Prematurely letting people out of contracts just means that they're losing money on the iPhones they've given you. You would be the one profiting.
 
No again point lost we do not want to break our contract for FREE! we will pay but not the price O2 are stating

Then how much are you proposing to pay to break your contract? That is pay in addition to the subsidised cost of the new iPhone + new contract?
 
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