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Bit off topic, but how are you finding the htc magic? is the battery life better than the G1?
Exactly, mobile phone contracts have always been a bit of a kick in the teeth. You either sit their enviously as a new model's announced or you watch as price plans drop and you're stuck getting less for more.
The only way to deal with this is buy PAYG, use a 30 day rolling contract then sell your PAYG phone when a new model's released and use the money to upgrade.
Use a thesaurus often to make your points? Because using a thesaurus in place of a vocabulary doesn't always work out so well. The point of communication is to understand each other. When I hear right-wing, I think political and I would wager so do most people.
But if you insist on being snarky
and one more for the cheap seats in the back:
Is there any reason why I can't just buy a full-priced pay-as-you-go 3GS and swap the SIMs over so the contract transfers to the new phone, and the old 3G then turns into pay-as-you-go?
It would seem fair to be able to do this, as I'd be buying a new unsubsidised phone, so O2 wouldn't lose anything. In fact, they would probably make a profit on the new sale as well, and I would continue to pay for my contract which would cover the cost of the subsidy on the original phone.
Any ideas?
It would seem fair to be able to do this, as I'd be buying a new unsubsidised phone, so O2 wouldn't lose anything. In fact, they would probably make a profit on the new sale as well, and I would continue to pay for my contract which would cover the cost of the subsidy on the original phone.
Any ideas?
As far as I am aware there is no reason you can't do that. In fact, despite the huge cost, I am considering it.
I would call O2 about it but that sounds reasonable, I would think you should be able to. You are completing your contract either way.
If you want to upgrade early then consider a Pay&Go iPhone and then when your contract's up, switch to a Simplicity sim. They do one for £19.58 with the same minutes but more texts than the £35 iPhone tariff and you can choose the unlimited web bolt on for free. If you were getting a brand new contract, the Pay&Go+Simplicity deal would only cost £10 over an 18 month contract but you could upgrade at any time without any problems.
Because u think political when right wing is used is your own downfall, not mine. You are trying to portray the point of communication is to understand each other, yet the latter part of your post makes no sense to me, only that it is a lame attempt at oneupmanship.
Any educated person could see the context of right-winged view in this thread, yet you cant. It says alot. Terms are used in conversation everyday that dont reflect the original intent of the saying, but if you insist on being pedantic on the matter to support your points then so be it.
I just Twitterd O2 and asked. The response was that it should be possible to do this, but to call them to make sure.
Although it's a whopping £538.40 to do this, it would actually be cheaper than buying out the contract for me, and I would not be starting a new 18 month contract. I'd therefore be free to buy the next new iPhone in 2010!
I could also sell the old one on Ebay, and they seem to be going for around £300, so the net cost would be about £250. Not too shabby!
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Whatever, troll. Congrats, I can't be bothered with you any more.
Surely the most sensible thing for 02 would be to charge a fee that pays back their subsidy of the phone.
So if, for example, 02 subsidized the phone by £300, and you had used 12 months of your 18 month contract, then you would have to pay £100. That way, the customer would be happy because they could upgrade for a reasonable cost, and 02 would be happy because they would have locked you in as a customer for a longer period.
They are legally entitled to do what they want, but it shows disrespect to the customers to claim that this is just about the phone subsidy (as they have on Twitter), but then to claw back such a disproportionate amount of money.
I think what really upsets people is that they are being asked to spend all this money just to be entitled to spend more money with them!
So if, for example, 02 subsidized the phone by £300, and you had used 12 months of your 18 month contract, then you would have to pay £100. That way, the customer would be happy because they could upgrade for a reasonable cost, and 02 would be happy because they would have locked you in as a customer for a longer period.
They are legally entitled to do what they want, but it shows disrespect to the customers to claim that this is just about the phone subsidy (as they have on Twitter), but then to claw back such a disproportionate amount of money.
I think what really upsets people is that they are being asked to spend all this money just to be entitled to spend more money with them!
This is a forum, people are entitled to their own opinions and views. Why are there so many nasty people on here? Even long time users here seem to be sarcastic and abusive. I stick to lurking/reading since, if you post something that isn't in agreement with the 'in crowd' you get flamed. Maybe everyone should agree, would be a fantastic foundation for discussion.
People are annoyed with o2's upgrade policy. Paying out your contract AND paying the full unsubsidised price PLUS having to sign for another 18 months(meaning you will pay off the subsidy of the iPhone, even though you've paid the full price anyway, in affect paying twice for one phone!)
You should be able to pay out your subsidy. The £35/£45 a month is calls and the subsidy on the iphone. If you take off the price of the equivalent PAYG calls/texts/date the subsidy you will have paid is probabaly around £15-£25. That x the number of months remaining, plus the price of the iPhone that is being offered to new customers would be fine in my opinion.
People aren't wanting a freebie or a crazy low price, just something that seems fair and the currebt upgrade deal isn't fair.
As for tethering, don't get me started!! Luckily(unluckily) it's of no use to me anyway, since I rarely get 3G coverage.
My advice is to not upgrade and wait to see what happens. Things will get interesting and better for the consumer once o2 loses it's exclusivity. I will be first to leave o2 and join a network that has decent 3G coverage (i.e. any other UK network!)
Thank you Mr Skill at last someone who gets our point!!! hats off to you for being one of the very few to understand my orginal post
Wow, misinformation much? If you pay off your existing contract you can get a new iPhone at subsidised price with a new 18 month contract.
Good work! That sounds like an option that is well worth looking into
It does look like an option. My guess is that O2 are going to revise their position on these. While an early upgrade fee is to be expected, their costs are too high right now. The fact that you can get the same deal kind of deal with O2 simplicity without an 18 month contract shows that they're not really subsidising the phones that much in the first place. In my opinion, a reasonable contract would be £279.99 for the 32GB phone + 12 Month £45 contract. The phone is only worth about £100 more to Apple than an iPod Touch with the same storage space after all.
o2 are in no way unique in this aspect. As far as I know, upgrades work pretty much the same way across the board.
...which is what makes everyone's surprise all the more surprising to the rest of us. This is all nothing new.
And also a big thank you to you yes you are right there are some nasty people in here who 1, dont get the point and 2, go way off topic
thank you for understanding me!
Sorry, maybe I was misinformed. Is there any need to crucify me?
No worries
I was told that this was a friendly forum!!
I just called O2, and they confirmed that you can indeed buy a Pay & Go 3GS and just swap over the SIM cards with your 3G, so your contract just continues on the new phone. I need to give this one some serious thought!
Had I wanted to do that I'd have got some timber and rusty iron nails. I personally thought my response was polite, concise and proportionate.
Well, this is a British thread, sarcasm's to be expected
You're not paying the unsubsidised price for the 3GS. If you choose to sign up to another contract you once again pay a subsidised price for the phone. The only 3GS price that is unsubsidised is the price of the PAYG phone.
But what everyone who doesn't agree with you is saying is that this is not the contract you agreed to, therefore O2 is not in anyway obliged to provide this. Additionally, I haven't ever heard of another provider going down this route either (feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, just personal experience).
It makes bad business sense, you signed their contract therefore they can make you honour the monthly payment. Nothing in the contract says they'll give you the option to buy out the contract at only the cost of the remaining subsidy. There are arguments that they will lose customers in the long run through this, yes, but the fact remains that you are not entitled to anything. If you don't like it you shouldn't have signed the contract.
Harsh, but true.
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