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Completely off topic.

Sorry to post something so off topic as I'm goint to right now, but I just saw something funny.

This is from Creative's Zen Sleek product page:

Vertical touch pad
No more going round in circles to find the song you want, we all know that the quickest distance between two points is a straight line. Zen Sleek's vertical touch pad and touch sensitive controls are designed to be intuitive so that searching through songs or playlists is easy, quick and fun.
And later it says this:

Accessorize your player
Available separately, the wired remote gives you access to your music when your player is in your backpack and the docking station allows you to charge your Sleek while you transfer music.
Their first statement is proven to be wrong. iPod's scroll wheel (and now click wheel) works like a charm. Much better than scroll vertically, where you have to point, drag-to-scroll, reach the bottom of the scroll strip, have to move your finger back to the strip's top again, and repeat it. We all know how the iPod's wheel works, so I won't go into detail about it here.

Now, the second statement is just plain hilarious. Accessorize your player? With, all counted, two accessories? Wow, amazing! I want one!

:D

Now, someone get back on topic, please.
 
One more good thing......

I think the "one more thing" is going to be the annoucement that martha stewart omnimedia has taken apple in a hostile take-over. Amung the product lines is a hand crochet's covers for the ipod mini's (proceeds going to women's charities). The new powerbook with an expresso attachment. And finally Itunes will shuffle recipes instead of songs.
 

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let's clarify a few things.

First, like it or not Intel macs won't be hear until 2006, and pro-intels won't be out until 2007. Steve said it himself at WWDC this year. Also, developers were told they had until 2006 to get their apps to intel, Apple wouldn't jump the gun on this, and especially without the support of a few big names such as Adobe and Microsoft.

Second, people always seem to question Thinksecret, what they don't realize is that 99% of the time Thinksecret is right. The site has an incredible track record. Anyone remember when the iMac g5 was supposed to come out according to AI, TS laughed at them and said it wouldn't be ready for some time. They nailed it on the head, TS has established themselves as the dominate rumor site on the web, they should be taken at face value with every post they make.

Last, Apple still makes the majority of its profits from selling computers. The Powermac and the Powerbook lines are both out of date, as we have seen by the tons of users complaining every day on the forums. If Apple is true to its word, and doesn't release pro intel macs until 2007, then having new spicy Macs to sell for this holiday season might be just the right thing.


Let's recap for all those people to lazy to read all of my thread ;)

- There is absolutely no way Apple will jump the gun on Intel Macs

- Thinksecret has the best cred of any rumor site, and until they mess up we have no reason to doubt anything they say

- Apple's main profit comes from selling computers, not iPod's. With both the Powermac and Powerbook lines out of date, new versions make complete sense
 
SiliconAddict said:
No. $500 to watch ripped Netflix movies (That are deleted once you are done.) that you take with you on the go while you wait in a airpoint, or on the bus, or killing time while a server installs a OS, or waiting for the router to move the firmware across a slow *** connection cable. yah. No market what so ever.


Yea, the same 5 people who have a PSP? (and hold it up to their faced while watching)

Yea, $400+ to kill 20 minutes? Yea, those few hundred people who fly enough and are board enough and have enough money to spend $400+ to watch movies on a matchbook. Yea, you're right, no market what so ever.

I keep forgetting, there are millions of college kids who fly back and forth daily that have $400+ to spend on a matchbook video player. Or the millions of high school teens who are waiting for a router moving firmware.

After all, it's those highschool and college kids who are Apple's iPod generation, not those in business class on Delta or IT guys wasting company time watching that movie on their business card iPod.
 
madmaxmedia said:
I agree with this one. Also, for Apple to send out an invite with Steve's catchphrase means something big is coming. There's no need to figure out whether 'One more thing' means in addition to Nano or ROKR, or 'one more PPC', etc., it's simply a reference to Steve's famous way of saving the best for last.

That's what I would think. But when I saw the nano invite I thought, "Revolutionary New Product!" not "1000 songs in the CHANGE pocket that the camera is focusing on!". But I was wrong. SO don't discount the curtais or the phrase.
 
From the topic on the original iPod
elitemacor said:
It's now at the online Apple Store!

$400 for an Mp3 Player!

I'd call it the Cube 2.0 as it wont sell, and be killed off in a short time...and it's not really functional.

Uuhh Steve, can I have a PDA now?

[Edited by elitemacor on 10-23-2001 at 02:33 PM]
It may be so funny looking back on it now, but some here will look equally as stupid in a few years. Us in the pro-video camp may be wrong as people gravitate towards a different technology or even brand of portable video device. Those in the anti-camp would look pretty stupid if it was launched next Wednesday and sold a bucketful before Christmas and went on to be a massive hit, changing people's viewing habits.

Either way, I want to revisit this topic when the next huge iPod-type technology, (whatever it could be), to laugh at our fighting and arguments for and against.
 
Scratchbc said:
I dont think a PowerBook G5 will come. I just cant see that right before a major switch to intel apple would have spent the time and money in R&D for A G5 PB and then go straight to and then start all over again with a intel PB.
Eggsactly.
 
ksz said:
Jobs has publicly stated that a video iPod is a bad idea. It is one thing to play MTV-style music videos on an iPod, but quite another to watch movies.
This is inaccurate. Steve has never said it's a bad idea. He's simply stated that the market isn't ripe for it yet and that video players now on the market suck. The key issue is content, and if anyone can get content providers on board, it's Apple.

Jobs took some time to discuss video on personal devices, like the much-rumored Video iPod. While some companies are making moves in the video market, Jobs said that the market isn’t yet right for personal video devices.

"You can already download movies on the iTunes Music Store, and some albums offer video as an incentive to buy the music,” said Jobs. “We also offer video podcasts, but will people buy a video device just to watch this video? So far they haven’t. No one has been successful with that yet

“Making a component for the living room is easy to do, but it is the go to market strategy that is difficult,” said Jobs. “It’s not a technical problem, it’s a go to market problem."


http://www.macworld.com/news/2005/09/20/jobsparis/index.php
 
mo0805 said:
you're all wrong.
steve is bringing back the Newton, with fully-featured OS 10.4 and video playback capability. it'll have a 4" widescreen with resolutions up to 1024x768, airport extreme, playback to a television with an included cable, and a laser with a range of 3 feet that can cut through anything.
I wish. I would even settle for a model without the laser thingy. ;)
 
alas, high-end (functional/everyday/cheap/on demand) video useage is still quite a ways off. a vpod would be akin to those first vcr's. remember them? (top loaders, two units, $1,000, wired remote control) psp is 'blazing' a new video trail, a vpod would continue that vision, but i doubt it would 'end' the discussion in the same way the ipod did with music.

i agree though, all the updates in the ITMS would suggest an attempt on apples part to create a unit (ipod/vpod) to coordinate that media system.

but i swear to dobbs, the PBs need updating in the worst possible way. i need a new PBook. bad.
 
Kid Red said:
After all, it's those highschool and college kids who are Apple's iPod generation, not those in business class on Delta or IT guys wasting company time watching that movie on their business card iPod.

That's why I hope the event is less about PowerPC products. They will cost far more than my wallet could bear. Hopefully Apple has a cool new product that will sell like mad for the holidays. How many kids would get a $1500-3000 gift from Santa versus a gift in the <$500 range?

I think Apple's target is holiday sales. PowerBooks aren't priced to sell in volume for the holiday season.
 
Steve Loves It.

Can you imagine how much fun Steve Jobs is having with all these rumors floating around? The man is a genius at getting free advertising.
 
insidious7 said:
I think the "one more thing" is going to be the annoucement that martha stewart omnimedia has taken apple in a hostile take-over. Amung the product lines is a hand crochet's covers for the ipod mini's (proceeds going to women's charities). The new powerbook with an expresso attachment. And finally Itunes will shuffle recipes instead of songs.

I've worked in and managed coffee shops for over five years now. I can't let it slide. It's "eSpresso" not "eXpresso". :)
 
Kid Red said:
Yea, the same 5 people who have a PSP? (and hold it up to their faced while watching)

Yea, $400+ to kill 20 minutes? Yea, those few hundred people who fly enough and are board enough and have enough money to spend $400+ to watch movies on a matchbook. Yea, you're right, no market what so ever.

I keep forgetting, there are millions of college kids who fly back and forth daily that have $400+ to spend on a matchbook video player. Or the millions of high school teens who are waiting for a router moving firmware.

After all, it's those highschool and college kids who are Apple's iPod generation, not those in business class on Delta or IT guys wasting company time watching that movie on their business card iPod.
You guys are looking at this from the wrong angle. It's not about a $400 portable video player with a 3" screen. It's about a $400 ipod that ALSO does video. No one thinks of the current iPods as "photo display & storage devices." There are dedicated devices do that better. But it's an added feature.

If this video podcast thing ever takes off, I'd love to watch a 5 podcast on my ipod (assuming the screen is a decent size) while i'm riding the subway. TV on demand.
 
dongmin said:
This is inaccurate. Steve has never said it's a bad idea. He's simply stated that the market isn't ripe for it yet and that video players now on the market suck. The key issue is content, and if anyone can get content providers on board, it's Apple.
Agreed; let me qualify my statement by saying that Jobs believes a video iPod is a bad idea *now*.

If the market wasn't ready a month or two ago, it is ready now? I don't think so.

Watching full-length feature films on a tiny device may not be a good idea anyway. As I said, it's unlikely I will do that again on my PDA with its 3.7-inch screen.
 
Ah, this is reassuring. :) An iPod video would be awesome, but let's face it... the nano was released just about a month ago and a new iPod would totally steal some sales from it. But a dual-core Power Mac G5, now that's what I have been waiting for! I still expect an iPod video to be unveiled either before Christmas or during MWSF 2006.
 
ColoJohnBoy said:
I've worked in and managed coffee shops for over five years now. I can't let it slide. It's "eSpresso" not "eXpresso". :)
That's one of my pet peeves too. Not far behind people who call a PIN a Personal Identification Number number.
 
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p0intblank said:
Ah, this is reassuring. :) An iPod video would be awesome, but let's face it... the nano was released just about a month ago and a new iPod would totally steal some sales from it.

I don't agree. The Nano is about size, a video iPod would be about video on a regular iPod as opposed to just an iPod photo.
 
Would an iPod video be cool?
Sure.

Was the iPod photo cool when it came out last year?
Sure.

Did the iPod photo sell well? (hint: Apple slashed its price several times starting at $600, it's now at $400. Which iPod was always reported to be in stock last December?)
...

Do I like my iPod photo (which I bought because I cracked the screen of my 3G one)?
Sure. I also like the build in address book. To be clear, what I like is the colour screen. Having the possibility to store and display photos is just an add-on like the address book.
 
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