FWIW...
I just spoke with an apple rep, before even checking the forums here (not that that really matters), but this guy told me that UTD orders will be received on the 26th . I made him repeat himself after distinguishing between UTD and regular orders, and he still confirmed that UTD orders will be received on the 26th. I'm not saying that he is correct, all I'm saying is that he said that we UTDers will be in receipt of Leopard on the 26th. We'll see.
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hey randal my name is Mike
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i have a question regarding leopard's up to date program
I'm happy to assist with that.
2 questions actually.
first, is it the same as if i bought the 129$ retail copy?
Yes, it is the same version.
will i get the box and manuals and all?
Yes, everything you needed would be included.
awesome...also when i preordered the up to date copy it said all preorders will be delivered on the 26th....but on the order status of my copy it says that it still has not yet shipped........Will i recieve it on the 26th?
Yes, if you have ordered it already you will receive it on the 26th.
thanks...do you have any higher access to my order to see if it has shipped yet?
No, we do not have access to that over chat. The most up to date info can be found at http://www.apple.com/orderstatus
thanks for all your help Randal...1 day, 20 hours, 57 minutes, and 30 seconds!!!
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i tried to copy the link but for some reason when i right click and copy it, it doesn't open up the same page as when i simply click on it...sorry!
no i waited like 3 minutes from that same place..and it never shows up?> it must know im Canadian and apple hates Canadian
but back to UTD
mine says "ships by 26th
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I have a question about the Up to Date program for Mac OS X 10.5 Leopard
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Okay. The Up to Date page was a little confusing to me, so I am looking for a straight answer. Is the UTD disc the exact same thing I would get as if I ordered the $129 Single User Version?
Or is it an "Upgrade" Disc. That is, I have to have Tiger installed already in order for it to run?
That would be correct.
It is just being offered at 9.95 for customers who may have bought a Mac on or after 10/1/07
Okay. So just to clarify, the $9.95 Up To Date disc is the exact same thing as the $129 Single User version. Down to the Manuals, Box, and functionality of the Install DVD?
That is correct.
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So yeah....it looks like we're getting a lot of answers that say we'll be getting a full retail copy of Leopard. Let's hope thats true
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Lori A: Hello
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You: Hi I just ordered the "Up to Date" version of leopard and I was wondering if there was any difference from the full $129 retail version?
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Lori A: No difference.
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You: Great! One more question...
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You: I saw on your site that the regular version of leopard was supposed to be delivered on the 26th of October... Will the "Up to Date" version also be DELIVERD on the 26th? Or will it come later?
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Lori A: You can log into My Account to find out when you will receive that.
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Lori A: You will also receive an email with that information.
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You: Right now, it does not say anything about delivery (I have ordered from Apple before and it usually says when it will be delivered). All it says it that "Ships by: OCTOBER 26TH"
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Lori A: It should update as that status changes.
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Lori A: You can also call customer service if you have more questions.
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Lori A: The number for Customer Service and Sales Support is 800-676-2775.
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People, people! Unless Apple have made a major change in policy since Tiger, the UTD disk will be:
a) Shipped USPS and not turn up on the release day
b) Shipped as a DVD only, with a few pieces of paper, with no box.
c) Be an upgrade DVD, not a full stand alone version.
Personally I don't believe anything these phone/internet support guys are saying, but I'm sure we'll find out soon enough. I certainly would love my points a-c to not be true!
The 9.95 DVD allows you to upgrade your recently purchased Tiger machine to Leopard. What more do you want? I fail to see how its "crap".If that's the case i'll burn the full copy from my friends. the 9.95 = Crap then.. if u can install the full OS without having Tiger... or pervious OS..
The 9.95 DVD allows you to upgrade your recently purchased Tiger machine to Leopard. What more do you want? I fail to see how its "crap".
Even more advanced users know that that "bloating feeling" is purely in the users mind, and that Apple upgrades work perfectly fine.well, for one, if you ever need to restore, you first have to install tiger, than you have to upgrade to the Lepoard. So its not very intuitive. Most advanced users like not have have stacked OSes on their system. Giving it a bloated feeling.
The concept that the system is "slower due to left over files from the old OS version" is completely without merit, and if you really were a "advanced user" who understood how Mac OS X actually worked, you'd know that.If you looked at other poll threads you will see that more than 50% of the users like to do fresh OS installs vs. upgrades, which tend to make the system slower due to left over files from the old OS version.
and yes.. that does suck if u ever wanna reinstal u gotta reinstal Tiger THAN upgrade cd a PAIN in the ***
talked to anther one..pretty intresting one 2... lol
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Carnice C: Good evening
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Carnice C: How may I help you today?
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You: i got the UP TO DATE program LEOPARD..nd i been hearing various of different things... bout the shippin does the UTD program get DELIVERED on 26th like the rest of the pre-order Leopards that cost 129 ?
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Carnice C: Not sure, you would need to check the verify/edit page of checkout.
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You: is there any of finding out?
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You: please? i need to know
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You: it's really unfiar if the UTD gets shipped on Oct 26th and everyone elses get theres on 26th NOT FAIR AT ALL
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Carnice C: How so? Are you not getting the software free(save the cost of the CD)?
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Carnice C: And again, you can check via the order status page if you have already ordered or the verify/edit page if you have not ordered.
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You: doesn't matter, the fact is that i get it 1 week later just cuz i got it for FREE... that makes no sense.
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You: i talked 2 difference surpvisors they both gave me 2 different answers... not everyone knows anything seems like.
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Carnice C: Just another minute...
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Carnice C: They are not the same disc, you do know that, correct?
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You: ok
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You: they told me they are exactly the same DISC
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Carnice C: You need to have Tiger installed to use the up-to-date disc.
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You: that's not wut the other reps/supervisor said
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You: all of u giving people different answers it's very frustrating
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Carnice C: Then go by what they said.
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You: then y r u givng different answer?
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Carnice C: I can only say what I was told
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You: so it's not a FULL CD then.
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Carnice C: It is a full CD, but it checks for Tiger.
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You: and if tiger not installed it will not install the OS
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Carnice C: Correct.
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Carnice C: Have you ordered your C Dyet?
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Carnice C: CD yet?
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You: YES
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You: on oct 16th
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You: paid 9.95
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You: and was told it was the EXACT AS THE 129 ver,
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Carnice C: Ok, and your order status page shows a delivery of what?
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You: not yet shipped
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Carnice C: So you do not have an estimated arrival date?
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You: not
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You: no* says Ships by: oct 26th
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Carnice C: I am really sorry for keeping you waiting, I'll be just another moment.
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You: ok
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Carnice C: Ok, so if it says ships by that is the latest it will ship, it may ship tomorrow.
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Carnice C: IT is not definite.
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You: okay. and it's a UPGRADE CD not FULL ..
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Carnice C: It is a full disc, but it checks for Tiger.
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You: does it give me the option to Earse and Install the Full OS..
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You: easre tiger and install LEOPARD?
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Carnice C: It should, that is what I am hoping for.
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Carnice C: I too am anxiously waiting for my dics.
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You: I C. so it might ship tomorrow then... since i am in cali..
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Carnice C: disc*
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You: did u order UTD?
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You: or FULL ?
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Carnice C: I ordered UTD
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You: ah so we are on the same page here... lol
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Carnice C: And yes it may ship tomorrow, but as I am not connected to the shipping or ordering systems I cannot give you a definite date.
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You: alright
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Carnice C: Yes we are.
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You: lol
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You: =) heh.. i hope it ships tomorrow otherwise it'll be really unfair!!! others recivce theirs and we wait another week
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Carnice C: I don't mind waiting, I figure it the price for free, but then again I am not confrontational.
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You: lol alright i'm very impatient as u can tell... so i can't wait
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Carnice C: My curse.
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Carnice C: Understandable.
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You: lol
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You: k thanks i'll keep checcking tomorrow.. hopefully it'll ship i'll try to contact u again tomorrow...
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You: nope that's it for now. thanks!
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