Office 2004 Screenshots

[bdkennedy1]

Live Word Count is on by default in Word 2004.
It's not just that, it's overall sluggy. For example, Word v.X starts in 2 bounces. I loose count of how many Word 2004 takes.

On my 867MHz G4 Word 2004 uses ~20% of the CPU time, it once jumped to 50% while typing, but only once.
Also, it uses ~12% CPU time just sitting there doing nothing, which is a shame

When LWC is off, it makes little difference, in the order of ~3%

AppleMatt

Ummmm, let's see. It's still in BETA so yeah performance is going to suck.

 

[Wonder Boy]

Here it is!

the note pad template is awsome!

 

[AppleMatt]

Please circle one answer for those that have seen the preview:

Long File Names:

YES NO


Thanks. I'd really appreciate an answer on this.

I just saved a file that's title was 56 chars no problem.

AppleMatt

 

[iEric]

does anyone have MSN Messenger 4 Beta? I'd love to try it out

When is office 04 coming out?

 

[mustang_dvs]

Turn off your 3rd party applications!

nevermind, didn't see there were other pages.

 

[achmafooma]

I thought that MSN messenger didn't work with the Mac. At least that is what it says in the advertisements by Verizon.

MSN messenger works fine with the Mac (if you're into that kind of thing). The Verizon thing (presuming you're talking about DSL) is for the whole MSN application ... browser, email, messenger, etc. all in one... AOL style.

Verizon DSL has some kind of a marketing deal with MSN, where the service comes with the PC version of MSN. They claim that the MSN part doesn't support Mac. Don't know why (since I think there is an MSN for Mac).

Verizon DSL itself works just fine with Macs, and I'm probably glad it didn't auto-install all that MSN crap when I got it.

 

[surfkw]

LOL.
There's a clue in your screen-shots.

AppleMatt

Yeah, takes one to know one

There are many that recongize that file icon on the desktop, even if it is blurred out!

 

[marmotte]

What about the autocomplete function?

In Excel X, when the autocomplete function is on, the suggested autocomplete value appears as a contextual menu above the cell. You then have to use the keyboard to select the value you want and then, when you hit return, the next cell is selected. However, it is the cell below the one you were editing, which, in 99% of the cases, is not the one you want. So you have to go to the cell you want: the one to the right of the cell you were editing, on the same row. All of this is a lot of mouse clicks, selections.

On Windows, the suggested autocomplete value shows us directly in the cell, so when you hit return the value is taken, and the next edited cell is the one to the right, the ne you want. It's only one key.

As you can see, the Mac OS X usability implementation is terribly innefective. When you repeat this over 10-20, 100 cells, the Mac user is much less productive than the Windows user.

Has this been fixed in Excel 2004?

Thanks

MM

 

[GetGo]

Does Office 2004 open and run faster then previous versions?

 

[NeoMayhem]

Does Office 2004 open and run faster then previous versions?

Yes, it does.

 

[vpalvarez]

Forgot to say, a nice addition is the preview in the print dialogue;

AppleMatt

Why hasn't anybody thought of that before. Damn wish I had, its almost brilliant

 

[vpalvarez]

I just saved a file that's title was 56 chars no problem.

AppleMatt

I don't see why anything longer is really necessary, oh well maybe its a quirky thing

 

[Ratatoskur]

I'd like to know about Unicode support in Word, Excel and Powerpoint.

If someone could try it out using the Icelandic (Unicode) keyboard setting that would be great.

 

[Fukui]

I don't see why anything longer is really necessary, oh well maybe its a quirky thing

ProjectNumber-ProjectName-Customer-Propoasal-Revision-Date.doc

for example....

2315-Trinity-Apple-DevelopmentAndDesignGoals-23a-1999.03.21.doc

Its actually very important for some people who organize things in one folder, or like to search for thier files using keywords etc.

 

[rlw]

Unicode

I'd like to know about Unicode support in Word, Excel and Powerpoint.

If someone could try it out using the Icelandic (Unicode) keyboard setting that would be great.

Yes, please let us know if it supports Unicode.

Thanks

 

[sstrasser]

entourage

Does the new entourage suport imap better than the previous version?

 

[AppleMatt]

Ummmm, let's see. It's still in BETA so yeah performance is going to suck.

ummm let's see. Office v.X has had 3 major updates, the first of which containing over 1000 performance enhancements and fixes, and it uses ~12% of the CPU when idle, which if you'd bothered to read the whole thread you would have seen. Explain that away.

Regardless, it's info on the Office 2004 beta, which is what people want. Positive or negative, and most of my posts have been very positive.

AppleMatt

 

[mikeyredk]

word

word has lost its define window NOOOOOO...

hopefully it will come back in the final version

 

[pimentoLoaf]

From the "I don't really have a clue" department:

Salesguy at an Apple Store in Wisconsin says July is the target date for Office 2004.

Microsoft's site says April.

 

[bennetsaysargh]

i think they said summer of 04 at the keynote, so im gonna go with that.

 

[superfunkomatic]

sorry, maybe i'm missing something, in all the "excitement" but...
what is the big deal with this release - exchange support that was supposed to happen shortly after the 2000 version? MSN messenger, huh? everything looks the same except now microsoft has created "projects" for tracking everything - which frankly is a concept lost on me. how do any of these features increase your productivity or justify the cost of another 600 dollar hit. it's the same software - just a shine on a turd.

maybe they should strip things back to the essentials and create useable, reliable software.

 

[Arnold]

Receipts are a non-standard mail feature that is provided by the SERVER (Exchange, in this case), not the CLIENT (Entourage). Therefore, unless you happen to be using an Exchange server and Entourage 2004 PROPERLY supports Exchange, then no.

Thank you very much for your answer. However, a nice freeware exists and generate this feature with Entourage X client. It's called "Return Receipt Script". It works fine with Outlook, Outlook Express (Windows), IncrediMail, Netscape (Mac/Windows), Mozilla (Mac/Windows/Linux), Mozilla Thunderbird (Mac/Windows/Linux), and some others.

The only problem is that it works with Entourage and Mail, only if your correspondant also has that script installed.

If anybody is interested, this script is located here:
http://www.weatherradio.info/rrscript/

 

[pdgnyc85]

More Entourage Questions

OK, let me chime in here for a minute regarding the Exchange support in Entourage 2004.

• It's different than the Exchange support (lack thereof) that was introduced in Entrouage 10.1.4.

• Entourage 2004 now uses OWA (Outlook Web Access) to talk to the Exchange server. Can you say web mail via http?

It's a mixed bag if you ask me. First and foremost, it's not a true MAPI client. However, since OWA uses MAPI to communicate to the Exchange server you're getting a client that can talk to your Exchange server that doesn't require IMAP or SMTP.

I've been using it in our large scale Exchange environment for a week now and fine it useful. I would like it to be a little faster, but functionality over speed is the comprimise.

The calendar is still limited to free/busy so you can schedule a meeting against Exchange and make sure all attendes can make it, but you can't lookup someone else's calendar and find where they'll be for the week.

Basically, anything you can do with OWA you can do with a nice GUI wrapper in Entourage 2004. Course your admins have to enable OWA.

Does this give you full functionality for address books and calendaring? this is the biggest pain in my.... dept. I'm trying to support a group of creatives in a MS oriented comany. I'm desperate to get them calendaring and address book functionality.

Any more details about the Entourage/Exchange issue would be great.

Thanks

 

[bitfactory]

OK, let me chime in here for a minute regarding the Exchange support in Entourage 2004.

• It's different than the Exchange support (lack thereof) that was introduced in Entrouage 10.1.4.

• Entourage 2004 now uses OWA (Outlook Web Access) to talk to the Exchange server. Can you say web mail via http?

It's a mixed bag if you ask me. First and foremost, it's not a true MAPI client. However, since OWA uses MAPI to communicate to the Exchange server you're getting a client that can talk to your Exchange server that doesn't require IMAP or SMTP.

I've been using it in our large scale Exchange environment for a week now and fine it useful. I would like it to be a little faster, but functionality over speed is the comprimise.

The calendar is still limited to free/busy so you can schedule a meeting against Exchange and make sure all attendes can make it, but you can't lookup someone else's calendar and find where they'll be for the week.

Basically, anything you can do with OWA you can do with a nice GUI wrapper in Entourage 2004. Course your admins have to enable OWA.

and let me chime in real quick to say OWA sucks.

folks, Entourage in 2004 is NOT a real exchange client. Outlook 2001 in Classic is still the closest you're going to get.

 

[impierced]

Does this give you full functionality for address books and calendaring? this is the biggest pain in my.... dept. I'm trying to support a group of creatives in a MS oriented comany. I'm desperate to get them calendaring and address book functionality.

Any more details about the Entourage/Exchange issue would be great.

Thanks

Contacts syncing works great. Calendars are limited to the functionality of free/busy.

You can check and see if Tom and Sally are free or busy at 2:00PM, April 1, 2004 and shedule a meeting accordingly. However, if say Sally is busy at that time you cannot find out where she will be, just that she isn't available at that time.