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jtquick2001 said:
you should have kept the OSX interface. I personally think the whole thing is fake.

It's VERY safe to say that you're wrong. It is a real copy and if you know where to look it's easy to get.
 
Forget OneNote, get NoteTaker

Zaty said:
Actually, OneNote is the only app I'm missing on my PB. It's great a move from the MacBU to integrate OneNote's functionality into Word! I can't wait to get Office 2004 (I qualify for the step-up).

Forget OneNote. Aquamind's NoteTaker is well ahead of OneNote in terms of features. It's a great app that doesn't lock you in to Microsoft stuff.

Aquamind's Website
 
Macnerd1984 said:
Does Entourage's Address book now use the Apple Address book or is it still separate? It's a real pain to have to keep the two synchronised and as far as I can gather synching up Entourage's address book using iSync is impossible (although I may well be wrong). I guess it would be too much to ask for M$ to make things that easy for us "standard" users.........
:rolleyes:

No, it doesn't. It does allow you to import all your folders, sigs and preferences from the Apple Mail client, but not the address book.

Entourage does have a Junk Email feature that is very similiar to the junk email feature found in the Apple Mail program.
 
Can it read and write OpenOffice file formats (without MS' embrace-and-extend behavior)? Is it free like OpenOffice? Can it export to PDF in one-click (okay, since OSX can, the point's moot, but if you were stuck with Wintel...)? Does it have a built-in vector graphics drawing program?

Is it $479 better than OpenOffice?

(Note that a full Mac version of OpenOffice is about one year off, but NeoOffice/J -- www.neooffice.org/java/ -- is usable today.)
 
... I think it's a fake.

Oh no, it's quite real.
From when I first got on the net (one of AOL's first few thousand customers) some of you might remember "IMME". It progressed through various delivery apps, and it now resides quite out in the open.
I don't mind saying, becauase I'm so freaking legal and proud of it. (I just bought 600 copies of Office v.X with 3 years free upgrades, and I get one of course)
Since I don't want to come right out and say anything, and I want to play along with the thread, I'll give you a hint on the two "easiest" places (there are five major carriers that I know of): "EfNet/#macfilez" and "llcm>seep101"
There, I said it. The cat (Wrrroooowww!) is out of the bag.
I hang around in all the wrong places looking for info on what kids (mostly kids for sure) know about network/computer security, but it's getting harder to pretend to be one of them as I (sadly) grow older. I'm happy to say they know little, but think they know a lot, so on occasion it's quite entertaining.
Have fun.
 
pimentoLoaf said:
I only hope that there is an upgrade price for those of us who have Entourage only. Currently, there isn't, and I'd have to pay full list to get Office.

I wake up from sleep and I see my thread made the front page!

LOL, and Entourage is a bit snappier opening HTML emails actually. What it does is that it immedietly shows the text then attempts to get the images from the net, that takes time, but at least you're able to read the email.
 
zamyatin said:
Can it read and write OpenOffice file formats (without MS' embrace-and-extend behavior)? Is it free like OpenOffice? Can it export to PDF in one-click (okay, since OSX can, the point's moot, but if you were stuck with Wintel...)? Does it have a built-in vector graphics drawing program?

Is it $479 better than OpenOffice?

(Note that a full Mac version of OpenOffice is about one year off, but NeoOffice/J -- www.neooffice.org/java/ -- is usable today.)
Doesn't the X11/Linux version of OpenOffice work in Panther now? I could have sworn I read that...

Rob
 
ultrafiel said:
Excuse me, but you need to look at your network settings, because MSN Messenger works over airport. If you are going through a router or something then maybe the port that Messenger uses is blocked. I connect through the internet over airport, and can use messenger without a problem. At the beginning I couldn't transfer files to contacts, but that was a router problem. Once I opened the port it works fine. Sorry, the problem here isn't MS. If you mean messenger using rendevous then that is a different matter. It can't detect all the users on your network.

Hmmm, then it would be really nice to know how you got it working, because it always tells me that the network is down or I have no internet connection open... I would check whether the port that MSN uses is closed or not if I would know which port it uses...
Besides that it's a shame that it doesn't even support https proxies. I can't use it a school this way. That's something that really annoys me so bad, when something with my mac doesn't JUST WORK.
Oh well any help would be appreciated.
 
Exchange Support

Thought you might be interested in this little clip of text taken from the help files.

So we have no access to public calendars thank you MS.



About Exchange public folders

Public folders is a feature of Microsoft Exchange Server that provides an effective way to collect, organize, and share information with others in an organization. Typically, public folders are used by project teams or user groups to share information about a common area of interest. When you are connected to your Exchange server, folders labeled "Public Folders" appear in the Microsoft Entourage Folder List under your Exchange mail account. Your Public Folder server was automatically determined when you created your Exchange account.

To download the list of public folders, click the Public Folders folder. All folders that you have access to will be downloaded. Keep the following in mind:

• Only e-mail messages will appear. Other item types that might be in the public folder, such as Calendar events or tasks, will not appear in Entourage.
 
bit density said:
Can you check in 2004 whether or not LWC is enabled by default, and if it still sucks alot of system cycles if it is on?

Live Word Count is on by default in Word 2004.
It's not just that, it's overall sluggy. For example, Word v.X starts in 2 bounces. I loose count of how many Word 2004 takes.

On my 867MHz G4 Word 2004 uses ~20% of the CPU time, it once jumped to 50% while typing, but only once.
Also, it uses ~12% CPU time just sitting there doing nothing, which is a shame :(

When LWC is off, it makes little difference, in the order of ~3%

AppleMatt
 
bit density said:
There is a known bug with Live Word Count, which is on by default. It sucks up an incredible amount of cycles to the point of overall sluggishness, and is usually not a useful feature...

It can be turned off in Preferences:View:Live Word Count.

This makes word as snappy as you would expect in vX

Which reminds me...

Can you check in 2004 whether or not LWC is enabled by default, and if it still sucks alot of system cycles if it is on?

On a performance related note: is the 2004 version also as CPU hungry as WordX? One of the things which bother me enormously is that Word, even when it's in the background, always stays roundabout 10% CPU usage on my powerbook 12 inch. There is no other application I have which uses such huge ammounts of CPU power by just being in the background. Even virtual PC stays roundabout 5% when in background. It annoys me because this often makes my fan go on... so could any of you chack whether this is any better? Thanks!

(oops sorry, just saw the above post... sorry for inconvenience)
 
zamyatin said:
Can it read and write OpenOffice file formats (without MS' embrace-and-extend behavior)? Is it free like OpenOffice? Can it export to PDF in one-click (okay, since OSX can, the point's moot, but if you were stuck with Wintel...)? Does it have a built-in vector graphics drawing program?

Is it $479 better than OpenOffice?

(Note that a full Mac version of OpenOffice is about one year off, but NeoOffice/J -- www.neooffice.org/java/ -- is usable today.)

Student edition "should" be ~$149
 
AppleWorks....?

Ya know I thought for sure Keynote was the clue that Apple would update Appleworks (At least sometime in the last 4 years). I have been holding off on converting my AppleWorks Spreadsheet documents to Excel. Should I just give up and make the switch to MS Office?
 
I really want Appleworks to be updated...and Palm Desktop as well. Office v.x and 2004 should replace Palm Desktop and at the student price, are reasonable. Have you tried Abiword or one of the other free office things? Mellel is very nice also.
 
Just tried the audio recording on the notebook, it's very good. Instant start, instant stop etc etc, and it's very obvious when it's recording, lots of visual feedback.

Also, once you've finished recording the "Toolbox" button on the toolbar pulses red quite quickly, it's very nice, and when you click it a compatibility report comes up saying that other versions of word will not be able to access the audio. There's also a drop-down in which you can choose what to check (Word 97 through 2004 by default) and press "Recheck document" to give you a report of what's not compatible and why. Very slick. Even slicker...there's three buttons below the report; Help, Ignore and...Fix :cool:

Infact, the new notes feature is probably one of the best ideas I've seen in a long time. You know how mail treats absolutely everything as objects? That's exactly how notes does it. You can collapse lists, move lists, move single items. I like it, I just wish my notes were as neat as it in real life.

AppleMatt
 
Exchange support limited to...

OK, let me chime in here for a minute regarding the Exchange support in Entourage 2004.

• It's different than the Exchange support (lack thereof) that was introduced in Entrouage 10.1.4.

• Entourage 2004 now uses OWA (Outlook Web Access) to talk to the Exchange server. Can you say web mail via http?

It's a mixed bag if you ask me. First and foremost, it's not a true MAPI client. However, since OWA uses MAPI to communicate to the Exchange server you're getting a client that can talk to your Exchange server that doesn't require IMAP or SMTP.

I've been using it in our large scale Exchange environment for a week now and fine it useful. I would like it to be a little faster, but functionality over speed is the comprimise.

The calendar is still limited to free/busy so you can schedule a meeting against Exchange and make sure all attendes can make it, but you can't lookup someone else's calendar and find where they'll be for the week.

Basically, anything you can do with OWA you can do with a nice GUI wrapper in Entourage 2004. Course your admins have to enable OWA.
 
Please circle one answer for those that have seen the preview:

Long File Names:

YES NO


Thanks. I'd really appreciate an answer on this.
 
bennetsaysargh said:
how did they get the retail version when everyone else has the preview?

I doubt it's the retail version. Had MS already finished work on Office 2004, they would announce when it's available. But as far as I know, MS hasn't said when it's shipps yet. Secondly, on one screenshot (on "get info"), it' says something like "unpublished work" next to the copyright sign. It's probably RC1 but not the final version.
 
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