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Office 2004 Screenshots
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keep the original osx look next time
you should have kept the OSX interface. I personally think the whole thing is fake.
nspeds said:Here they are guys...
Don't ask, just look
you should have kept the OSX interface. I personally think the whole thing is fake.
Does anyone know whether MSN Messenger works with an Airport now? Or are those emoticons really the ONLY new thing, because if they are the people at Microsoft should get their butts kicked. I can't even use MSN because it won't connect over my Airport. This is one major drawback, especially if you live in a country where most of the people use that damn thing. God how I hate Microsoft.
Receipts ARE standard. Microsoft isn't
RFC 1894 defines the Delivery Status Notification (DSN) mechanism for receipts. DSNs inform the sender that the remote server has processed the message and either accepted or rejected it, but says nothing about whether a human has read the message.
RFC 2298 defines the Message Disposition Notification (MDN) mechanism for receipts. MDNs inform the sender that the remote user has read the message (or at least opened it.)
DSN's don't work without support by the recipient's mail server.
MDNs don't care about the server but require support in the recipient's e-mail client. A good client will let you decide how to handle mail messages with MDNs - to send a response, not send, or ask you - and allow separate settings based on who the sender claims to be. (Mozilla is pretty good in this aspect. I don't know about Microsoft's clients.)
No. They are quite standard. The IETF defined two different mechanisms for receipts - one in 1996 and one in 1998. Microsoft's particular mechanism for receipts may be non-standard but it would be wrong to categorically state that "receipts are a non-standard mail feature".wrldwzrd89 said:
RFC 1894 defines the Delivery Status Notification (DSN) mechanism for receipts. DSNs inform the sender that the remote server has processed the message and either accepted or rejected it, but says nothing about whether a human has read the message.
RFC 2298 defines the Message Disposition Notification (MDN) mechanism for receipts. MDNs inform the sender that the remote user has read the message (or at least opened it.)
DSN's don't work without support by the recipient's mail server.
MDNs don't care about the server but require support in the recipient's e-mail client. A good client will let you decide how to handle mail messages with MDNs - to send a response, not send, or ask you - and allow separate settings based on who the sender claims to be. (Mozilla is pretty good in this aspect. I don't know about Microsoft's clients.)
Agreed. I access my employer's exchange server with IMAP/SMTP from Mozilla, but I'd be laughed out of the room if I called it an Exchange client.dudeami said:
you seem to be running bittorrent in the background...
(hint hint)
i'm curious about the cocoa vs. carbon thing too... can you do: Word --> Services --> Speech --> Start Speaking Text?
answer is appreciated,
reality
(hint hint)
i'm curious about the cocoa vs. carbon thing too... can you do: Word --> Services --> Speech --> Start Speaking Text?
answer is appreciated,
reality
Its not worth it.kungfu said:
Too much to throw away.
...and then what would they do with all those employees?
Design emoticons? Maybe they could port Publisher, Onenote, Access, Project, Visio, you know all the extra programs windows version gets for
the same price as the mac version....
Unicode
The developer has already posted to the Unicode list that there is some Unicode support in the new version of Office, but he didn't mention any rtl languages like Hebrew or Arabic, so the assumption is that RTL and shaping aren't implemented yet, but basic Unicode support - probably including higher planes - is.
The developer has already posted to the Unicode list that there is some Unicode support in the new version of Office, but he didn't mention any rtl languages like Hebrew or Arabic, so the assumption is that RTL and shaping aren't implemented yet, but basic Unicode support - probably including higher planes - is.
I met a Sales Weenie (TM) at a VW service place in Seattle, and asked her specifically why Entourage is so low on features as compared to it's PC counterpart. I got the song and dance (which amounted to M$ wanting people to use Windows, not Mac), but the thing that struck me the most was, and this is a direct quote, "Creative people don't care about scheduling, or meeting reminders.. That's for the rest of the company to worry about". I swear to god, that's what she said.
So, apprently, from M$'s point of view (or just an M$ employee), us "creative types" that usa Macs don't need to worry our pretty little heads about all that hard business stuff.. That's for the growups (who use windows, of course) to deal with.. We'll just make the pretty pictures.
So, apprently, from M$'s point of view (or just an M$ employee), us "creative types" that usa Macs don't need to worry our pretty little heads about all that hard business stuff.. That's for the growups (who use windows, of course) to deal with.. We'll just make the pretty pictures.
dudeami said:
nspeds said:
i wouldnt assume one needs a word processor for work. the only reason why ive ever used that poor excuse for a program was to cut text OUT of
and paste into another app. word is the suckiest program ive ever had to
launch....well....im exaggerating but still....it sucks. anyway, thanks for the screen shots, im always curious whats going on with the major mac apps.
Project Centre Details
I've never really been interested in the office suite before but I just recently took a look at the new project centre and was thinking that this could really change the way I do business. I was hoping that you could post some more screenshots of the project centre and some details on how the "share" functionality works. Can you share access to a projects email, notes, to-do lists, files over the net? Outsourcing projects might be a whole lot easier if this is the case.
- Jesse BC
I've never really been interested in the office suite before but I just recently took a look at the new project centre and was thinking that this could really change the way I do business. I was hoping that you could post some more screenshots of the project centre and some details on how the "share" functionality works. Can you share access to a projects email, notes, to-do lists, files over the net? Outsourcing projects might be a whole lot easier if this is the case.
- Jesse BC
nspeds said:
(Please excuse my english in the following, Im from Norway
Whats up!?
I have never had any word-programs or anything similar on my PowerBook. I am a law-student from Norway, and I write tasks we are given every day in TextEdit. My (norwegian) spelling is perfect, and I see NO use for all the "plings and plongs".
Dont slam me now. This is only ME and MY needs. New Times Roman 12pt, 1,5 spacing, nothing else. My point is just that people have different needs.
I have only one question: does the new office support long file names?
It's pathetic to say, but honestly, I will upgrade for that reason alone. Conversely, I will not upgrade and deal with the new bugs, et al., if there are still short file names. This "feature" bugs me a dozen times a day, and I'm not spending my money if MS doesn't get smart about this.
Thanks for posting the pictures, and if you can let us know about the long file names, that would be great.
It's pathetic to say, but honestly, I will upgrade for that reason alone. Conversely, I will not upgrade and deal with the new bugs, et al., if there are still short file names. This "feature" bugs me a dozen times a day, and I'm not spending my money if MS doesn't get smart about this.
Thanks for posting the pictures, and if you can let us know about the long file names, that would be great.
Diatribe said:
Excuse me, but you need to look at your network settings, because MSN Messenger works over airport. If you are going through a router or something then maybe the port that Messenger uses is blocked. I connect through the internet over airport, and can use messenger without a problem. At the beginning I couldn't transfer files to contacts, but that was a router problem. Once I opened the port it works fine. Sorry, the problem here isn't MS. If you mean messenger using rendevous then that is a different matter. It can't detect all the users on your network.
Fixing Slugishness...
There is a known bug with Live Word Count, which is on by default. It sucks up an incredible amount of cycles to the point of overall sluggishness, and is usually not a useful feature...
It can be turned off in Preferences:View:Live Word Count.
This makes word as snappy as you would expect in vX
Which reminds me...
Can you check in 2004 whether or not LWC is enabled by default, and if it still sucks alot of system cycles if it is on?
docholiday said:
There is a known bug with Live Word Count, which is on by default. It sucks up an incredible amount of cycles to the point of overall sluggishness, and is usually not a useful feature...
It can be turned off in Preferences:View:Live Word Count.
This makes word as snappy as you would expect in vX
Which reminds me...
Can you check in 2004 whether or not LWC is enabled by default, and if it still sucks alot of system cycles if it is on?
Address Book
Does Entourage's Address book now use the Apple Address book or is it still separate? It's a real pain to have to keep the two synchronised and as far as I can gather synching up Entourage's address book using iSync is impossible (although I may well be wrong). I guess it would be too much to ask for M$ to make things that easy for us "standard" users.........
Does Entourage's Address book now use the Apple Address book or is it still separate? It's a real pain to have to keep the two synchronised and as far as I can gather synching up Entourage's address book using iSync is impossible (although I may well be wrong). I guess it would be too much to ask for M$ to make things that easy for us "standard" users.........
iSync/Address Book Integration
That would be absolutely awesome for me. Does anyone know if that will be offered? I have a Clie, Sony Erricson Phone w/Bluetooth, and an iPod and I want to keep everything consistent with my email. For me, Apple's Mail app sucks, and I much prefer Entourage. If I could easily keep that synced via iSync with everything else, I'd cop for it.
Anyone read anything about iSync support?
That would be absolutely awesome for me. Does anyone know if that will be offered? I have a Clie, Sony Erricson Phone w/Bluetooth, and an iPod and I want to keep everything consistent with my email. For me, Apple's Mail app sucks, and I much prefer Entourage. If I could easily keep that synced via iSync with everything else, I'd cop for it.
Anyone read anything about iSync support?