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Open Office.
neo office.

I hate running ms crapware on my mac. I have to because of stupid company policy but I do it only when I must. Outlook 2011 (beta) keep crashing, does stupid things with my spaces windows, and generally acts like any typical MS product running on a Mac. Let the Windows fan boys have it; I have no desire for any MS product to run on my Mac.

Nothing MS has produced in the last 20 years is worth anything.

Now, if only Apple would produce a business class email client......
 
is technet.microsoft.com same as msdn.microsoft.com

i have msdn access where i could download OEM for vista, 7, office 2010, and other microsoft softwares for free.


once it is available in the site i will download it. :cool:
 
Been using it for a couple of weeks, definitely the best version of Office for Mac yet. Well worth the upgrade.

+1. It has come a long way through the beta versions.
Additionally, it's considerably faster than the prior Office Mac version!
 
Maybe we will see it in the Mac App Store when it goes live and Windows Phone 7 is released and installed on phones.

I forgot about the mac app store. Maybe Microsoft will do that? I think they'd sell a lot more to people like me since I won't be upsold to business version. I would use Word now and then but I have no need for Excel and Powerpoint.
 
I want to buy Office '11 just to not use 2008 ever again, but I don't need Outlook (yet). I read somewhere you can get the cheaper version then upgrade to the Outlook edition later... is this verified?
 
Kind of regret not sending them my receipt sooner. Have to wait 5 days for them to verify before I can get my free upgrade.

I am curious though as to if I will be able to use my mobileme account to sync all my calendars over the air like I do now. Would it also do my contacts like ical does? Guess I will have to wait and see unless someone here has already tried it?
 
I forgot about the mac app store. Maybe Microsoft will do that? I think they'd sell a lot more to people like me since I won't be upsold to business version. I would use Word now and then but I have no need for Excel and Powerpoint.

i doubt it because one of the rules for the App Store is your software can't be buggy or crash.

2.1 Apps that crash will be rejected and 2.2 Apps that exhibit bugs will be rejected.

http://www.engadget.com/2010/10/21/apples-mac-app-store-review-guidelines-posted-will-photoshop/
 
No, there is no excuse for not supporting it.
Why does MS support it happily in Office 2010 in PC?.
As I explained, Exchange 2003 was written for Windows clients. It works in Outlook 2010 the same way that it connected to Outlook 2000 or even Outlook 2003. YOu are comparing Apples and Oranges - support on the Windows side is always going to work because the legacy code just carries over.

Exchange 2003 and 2007/10 have different methods of communicating with the client. It can work backwards on the Windows side since communicating with '03 was written back then. Look at it this way, newer clients can communicate with older systems because of legacy support. The opposite isn't true though (you need newer outlook clients to connect to newer exchange servers). Now you have to remember that the hooks to connect to '03 were never written for the Mac versions of office - different code base. By the time that support was going to be offered, MS was already re-writing's a newer system that was purpose built.

The only plausible way for the mac to properly connect would be to:
a) write the hoots for Windows - silly to do that given the age and that a replacement has been available for years.
b) Use a separate protocol like RPC over HTTP - Which has limits
c) port the newer code for Exchange on to 2003, something that MS is not very eager to do.

Most of these things are not something the Mac BU is going to control
 
Whoa there. Actually it IS correct because it was available to volume licensing and educational customers prior to it's official launch. I've been using it here for about 3 weeks.

So, you've been using it unofficially for 3 weeks? Point is, the qualifier "officially" is not used in the correct context here. It's just not needed. Has Microsoft or apple ever released a program for sale "unofficially?" Saying "Microsoft released Office for sale to the general public" would suffice, and be more correct.
 
Outlook rises again

Mac users can now install the latest versions of Word, Excel, PowerPoint, and, for the first time, Outlook.

This isn't the first time Outlook has been on the Mac. It was around in Office 2001, but then the e-mail client became Entourage starting with Office v. X.

I've been using Office 2011 for a few weeks, and it has been pretty decent. Glad to see that it finally does live resizing of windows now. However, the scroll bar in Word still has issues when opening large documents.
 
I might have missed that so apologies in advance, but let me just ask on how many machines can you install this? And is there any kind of the usual ms verification/authentication/genuine ms ********* advantage and the like?

I am asking this because by the looks of it when I get the new air I ll have about 4 macs and if these guys make buy extra copies for that...well I am not going to be a happy camper exactly...
 
I'm hoping to get it for $9.95. :)

I see Office 2008 for Mac on the Microsoft's HUP site, does anyone think/know if they will offer Office 2011 for Mac with MS's HUP?

We were told Office for Mac would be part of our campus agreement as soon as it was available. If your campus had the previous version, I'd imagine they'll have the current one soon - although it comes down to whether the person handling the agreement was paying attention. *

* We had a situation a while back where our department had a separate agreement w/ Microsoft, and the person who was in charge of managing it was terrible at details. He screwed up and a number of Microsoft titles ended up not being available to us. Fortunately the university is handling it for everyone now, and they're a bit better at paying attention. :D
 
Is there upgrade pricing? Or do we get to purchase this again...

Nope, as the guy from MS posted here a few weeks ago, because they made the price so low for everyone, there was no need for upgrade pricing!!!

Aren't we lucky???

If you invested in our earlier product, go pound salt, but buy our new one anyway!
 
Can't wait for this to become available using my work's home use program... $10 for a copy. It's not there as of this morning. :(
 
Keynote would be the exception to your theory. Keynote is vastly superior to PowerPoint.



I personally use Word and Excel, pages and numbers aren't nearly as featured as Word and Excel. As I said above, Keynote is superior to PowerPoint though.

-Don

I've had the opportunity to try MS Office Beta 6 in a less legal way than most beta-testers test the software.

And I can say, PowerPoint 2011 is better, different than 2008, and not only in interface enhancements. They finally copied the cool 3d effects you know from keynote.
The choice is between the little things now.
Do you want the Magic Move effects (Keynote), or do you like to have more musical effects like spreading a music piece across multiple slides but not across the whole presentation (PowerPoint)?
Do you want the Inspector pane (Keynote) or do you like the Ribbon interface more (PowerPoint)?
Do you like to know the resolution of your slides (Keynote) or do you prefer slide resolution independence, like vector images also are (PowerPoint)?
Etcetera...

No big differences any more. Just the little things. Personal preference.

Which of the two big companies do you want to aid (or less legally download from torrents or Usenet from)? Microsoft or Apple?

Thanks for reading. Please reply. :)
 
Given the age of Exchange '03, I am not surprised. Simply put, Exchange 2003 was never built with Mac integration in mind and they are not going to re-tool it when they have released two versions since then.

The limitations that Office has are the same limitations that Apple's Mail, Address Book, and iCal are subject to - Exchange '03 were written to support non Outlook clients and ActiveSync was never designed for the Mac desktop - that's why EWS was written back when Exchange 2007 was being developed. MS decided to use a purpose built system instead of a bolted on half solution.

We use 2003 right now, how hard is it to upgrade to Exchange 2007? It's hosted through an IT company and we pay them an arm and a leg each month.
 
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