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Official Google Phone Coming in January 2010, Testing Now
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Yes, but they said nothing about making a device to be sold under their name. All that came from other websites.
I always go to the source at times like this. What the Google exec said was this:
"We recently came up with the concept of a mobile lab, which is a device that combines innovative hardware from a partner with software that runs on Android to experiment with new mobile features and capabilities, and we shared this device with Google employees across the globe. This means they get to test out a new technology and help improve it."
So I still say it's most likely either the new T-Mobile Passion version, and/or it's simply being used to rapidly test and get feedback on new Android features... a lab, just as he said.
in my experience, especially girls like such reflective phones.
countless times that i have seen them abusing phones as makeup mirrors.
maybe some clue about the targeted audience?
also the Phone appears slimmer than the iPhone,...
I am LOVING this competition. Finally Apple is really pushed to do something different with the iPhone. For the past 3 iPhones, we've had pretty much the same form factor, screen size, etc. I'm ready for a higher resolution screen on my iPhone!
I'm sure this will be a nice phone and all but it just amazes me how as with the Zune, however hard they try no one gets even close to the look and feel of an apple product.
Wether its a laptop, music player or phone, they look clunky unsophisticated and way less desirable (IMO).
I'm sorry to sound like a fanboy but it really is hard to dispute the amazing design, fit and finish and just general wow factor that Apple constantly imbibes into their products.
Can't wait to see the new tablet/netbook.
Wether its a laptop, music player or phone, they look clunky unsophisticated and way less desirable (IMO).
I'm sorry to sound like a fanboy but it really is hard to dispute the amazing design, fit and finish and just general wow factor that Apple constantly imbibes into their products.
Can't wait to see the new tablet/netbook.
I'm just glad the DROID campaign touches on those points the same way Dove talked about real beauty.
Either you care about status and the sexiness/desirability of an OBJECT or you care about utility/function of a device that is supposed to help you. Some part of Apple needs to step aside from the mirror and look into the faces of its consumers.
Looks nice...I think it's the first Android phone I have any interest in.
Maybe we'll start doing some Android apps when this comes out!
Maybe we'll start doing some Android apps when this comes out!
The iPhone combines the best of both worlds. I'm not sure why a device can't manage both. We already have one that does. No one to date has gotten right the ideal combination of Hardware + OS + Ecosystem that Apple has managed to pull off. It's all about gestalt. You've either got just the right mix to create a total, cohesive package, or you don't. Apple brings its attitude from OS X + Macs to the iPhone, which is why, even after two years, the also-rans are going crazy trying to duplicate or re-create that Golden Combination. Their biggest obstacle is that Apple continues to develop the iPhone.
Yeah, I'm glad that google is making an effort to come out with something really cool. But I'm still going to be happy if Apple just keeps upping the hardware in iPhone.
I did not say that at all so please don't twist my words.
I care about the way a product works...and that includes it's tactile feel, construction and reliability.
Sexiness...give me a break. if you think any phone can be sexy you need to go see someone!
Status.....please, you don't know me well enough to say I care about status in anything.
Actually sounds like you are the one that has that problem.
As for looking in the face of it's consumers...I'd say they do that better than any other company out there. That's exactly why so many others try to emulate them and in my opinion fail in most instances.
Are they perfect...far from it. but as far as building a desirable product that answers most consumers needs, they do a very fine job that, so far, few have been able to equal.
Zune HD and now this "real" android have OLED screens.
does this mean apple has to use OLED in next iphone?
everybody loves those screens, and they use less power. certainly we're getting OLED next time, right? right?!?!?
The problem is that OLED sucks in sunlight where mobile devices are often used. I think it was Andy Ihnatko who posted the side-by-side vids of Zune HD vs. iPhone in sunlight and the results were startling, the former becoming almost unviewable and the latter looking unaffected.
You can cite all the evidence in the world that Apple doesn't play this tit-for-tat competition game with other products and companies and yet people still repeat this "competition is going to improve the [Apple product]" line. Name an instance where Apple did that.
And then show me where I can buy the Blu-Ray capable Mac that competition was supposed to produce. Oh, and the Apple Netbook and the mid-range tower. Competition should have brought those to the light of day too.
I would argue that where Mac OS X succeeds as being open, the iPhone does not. This almost feels like a direction Apple is taking, toward more and more control. The design is getting to the point where Apple makes it a point to tell the user that what they are producing is what we ALL want. There were several reasons I choose to not go with the iPhone, including this idea that "we" the consumer do not need certain things. Even if we are asking for them.
I think leading the industry in hardware dropping calls does not say the iPhone does the thing it is supposed to do best. I also think Apple is going to end up in trouble if they do not diversify their iPhone offerings. They wanted to be media giants, and they have made an incredible burst into that arena. But the formula changes, and so must the competitors. If all you are known for is a trend, or a fad, then you will fade when the public finds you stale.
I am not trying to speak for you, I am using your post as an example. Try not to take it personally. You did talk about desirability, which is one of those words that gets tossed around a lot on tech sites. Personally, I am sick of seeing the object worship that goes on in the world, but that is the reality. You have read the posts too, they're pretty bizarre when you break them down.
I just feel that when Apple became incorporated, they stopped working on helping people with their experience, and started working toward controlling the experience. I miss the wide gamut of solutions meant to help everyone gain access to the computer and feel like a pro. Every now and again, they listen and fix something on the computer side that we ask for. Why won't they do it for iPhone?
Spot on. This is one of the biggest differences that separates the leaders from the followers.
The fact that you're personally attacking others over a phone says quite a bit about your state of mind. You NEED to calm down and read your own post while looking in a mirror.
Google’s pure vision of what a phone should be...
A screen on the entire face and a single button on the bottom. I've owned a similar "vision" for over two years.
A screen on the entire face and a single button on the bottom. I've owned a similar "vision" for over two years.
Nobody disputes that the iPhone is a highly closed platform. A lot of people, including myself, like it because of it. I don't find a need to modify many things about my phone, because even with the advanced tasks it can do that were previously computer-based, I still see it as an appliance more than a computer. Luckily I find the iPhone UI quite good and don't desire any control over it. My primary concern is stability, orthogonality, and simplistic interaction. Yours may be configuration, open system access, and extensibility, or etc. It'd be nice if Apple sold a pre-jailbroken iPhone with the express lack of support and commercial apps, but they have no interest in it, and it'd probably be a basket full of headaches. For it to work they'd need to retool the app counter-infringement systems. That, as an amateur developer, is my #1 hope for iPhone OS 4: proper, intense, reliable security for app downloads. Partially to stop seeing honest small developers screwed over, and partially to disarm the 'people who jailbreak do it to pirate apps' argument.
Though I'd argue that OS X isn't open, or at least the trend is going the other way. Apple's stopped distributing binaries of Darwin, no? I think they've learned from the iPhone that people may want powerful software, but they want it to arrive and configure very simply. They also want it to come from a trusted, centralized source that manages payment easily, and lends itself to microtransactions. The App Store concept is probably going to 'dumb down' the software marketplace permanently. Whether or not it's a bad thing and how bad it is depends on your viewpoint, but it's successful and it'll probably eventually become de jure for whatever the desktop turns into within a decade. It could be argued that the apt system on Debian demonstrates it.
I like Linux, I've been using it since 1998. After using Linux on the desktop, I don't think Apple's approach is so bad anymore. But that's unrelated entirely
.What you're missing is that while I only use 1/2 of the features in the Office the 1/2 I use is different from 1/2 that someone else uses and so on. For every feature that you think is useless there is someone else who deems it critical and so on.
The only thing in iWork that is any good is Keynote. Pages and Numbers are toy programs at best. I've attempted to use both and always ended up back on Office:Mac to get work done.
May get one - still on a 3G, my contract ran out...yesterday, I think, and I don't want to upgrade to the 3GS with a new model on the scene in 6 months' time. If this is going to be sold unlocked as is rumoured, it could be a nice way to jump to Android or tide me over until the next iPhone.
Fair enough...and well said.
I agree that the cult of iPhone or whatever gadget is a sad testament on our society and a bad precedent to set for product development.
I will also agree that Apple more than most does force their ideals on us more than others.
I guess it just seems to me that these ideals are better and more useful than the others companies that attempt to be all things to all men and as such end to fail in the end.
I think that your comment relating to feeling like a pro sums up the problem. Where are the Pros nowadays
I was being honest. I said the iPhone's shell is plastic! I never mentioned the touch screen which by the looks of it is more or less the same on the Google phone pictured. So it has perhaps 10 percent more plastic on the front!