Official Merom (Core 2 Duo) Launch on Monday?

About $3.2k Fully Loaded With Third Party RAM and 160GB HD

vrocko said:
I went on dells website out of curiosity and configured a laptop as close as I could (spec wise) to the mbp I will be getting and it was near $6000 its $3000 to max out the memory http://configure.us.dell.com/dellstore/config.aspx?c=us&cs=19&l=en&oc=M1710B2&s=dhs
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Should only be about $3.2k with 2GB of third party ram and your own 160 HD. The plan would include dumbing down ram and HD so you can put in less expensive third party ram and 160GB HD thanks to the new Easy Access HD bay.

No Easy Access HD Bay? I would wait for a Merom MacBook in that case. I refuse to buy a MBP without that HD Bay or 'til hell freezes over.

You want 4GB it is going to cost a lot more money. I have no idea how much. You saying Dell wants $3,000 for two 2GB sticks?
 
I will be getting the merom MBP

I will be getting the merom one of the most important specs of the computer will be the memory because the only thing I will be using this computer is for music production using pro tools and memory is crucial for latency issues so you think I should max out the memory using third party.

P.S what will that do to factory warranty I'm not to familiar with mac this will be my first mac
Thank You
 
3rd Party RAM Is AOK With Apple

vrocko said:
I will be getting the merom one of the most important specs of the computer will be the memory because the only thing I will be using this computer is for music production using pro tools and memory is crucial for latency issues so you think I should max out the memory using third party.

P.S what will that do to factory warranty I'm not to familiar with mac this will be my first mac
Thank You
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No problem. Third party ram is totally OK with Apple. Go through Ramseeker to get the best price at Omni.

Music Production? And it has to be mobile? 'Cause if it's for a studio, you should buy a Mac Pro. MBP will be much more limited than what you can do with a Mac Pro. Money is about the same. You sure you need mobility?

Thanks for the Props.
 
thank you multimedia

Thank you very much multimedia since I have been keeping up with these forums I always look for your posts due to your thourough knowledge and explanations glad you are around
 
vrocko said:
Thank you very much multimedia since I have been keeping up with these forums I always look for your posts due to your thourough knowledge and explanations glad you are around
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True That!
 
Multimedia said:
Should only be about $3.2k with 2GB of third party ram and your own 160 HD. The plan would include dumbing down ram and HD so you can put in less expensive third party ram and 160GB HD thanks to the new Easy Access HD bay.

No Easy Access HD Bay? I would wait for a Merom MacBook in that case. I refuse to buy a MBP without that HD Bay or 'til hell freezes over.

You want 4GB it is going to cost a lot more money. I have no idea how much. You saying Dell wants $3,000 for two 2GB sticks?
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Weren't there issues recognizing a pair of 2G sticks in the MBs, MBPs and iMacs? I thought I remember reading that the most anyone could get recognized was 2G - even if there was 3G or 4G present...
 
the dissapointing thing that i just noticed is that the new C2D windows laptops still only allow a max of 2GB RAM - i see no reason why new macbook pro's would be any different. i was hoping merom would up that to 4GB so in a year or two when 2GB sticks are cheaper i could max out the machine. oh well.
 
shecky said:
the dissapointing thing that i just noticed is that the new C2D windows laptops still only allow a max of 2GB RAM - i see no reason why new macbook pro's would be any different. i was hoping merom would up that to 4GB so in a year or two when 2GB sticks are cheaper i could max out the machine. oh well.
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That is a little disappointing. While I wasn't going to be able to afford the 4GB right away, I had definitely planned to have 4GB by the time Leopard launches. Perhaps that will be part of the new case 'design' for the MBP, including easier HDD access.
 
HecubusPro said:
But MY GOD! It adds another $2,775 to the price of the laptop! Why is it so expensive? I read where DDR2 memory has increased in price, and will continue to increase until the end of the year, but almost $3k for 2 extra gigs of ram?! That seems rather exorbitant.
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I agree that the price is currently insane... but it can't stay that high forever and when it does become reasonable then it would be nice to take advantage of them rather that be limited to 2G even when 4G in 2 slots is a reasonable option. Even if that is a year from now there isn't any reason why it can't be supported now...
 
Zadillo said:
Whatever quality problems there are with Intel-based Macs, I wouldn't blame them on the processor (other than just the possible growing pains of such a major switch).

Either way, it seems pretty clear that a big factor in switching to X86 was on the mobile side of things. At the same time as Intel was making real headway with the Pentium M as a more efficient and cooler mobile chip, it seemed like there was no progress on further developments of a PowerPC succeessor for the aging PowerPC G4's in the PowerBook and iBook line.

Seriously, can you imagine if we were here in the middle of 2006 and Apple was still pushing old PowerPC G4-based laptops? Do you think we were ever going to see a PowerPC G5 laptop? And even if we did, would it have really competed with the Core 2 Duo based laptops?

Arguably you could make a switch to x86 on the mobile side and keep using G5's on the desktop side, but this would really seem kind of wishy-washy........ imagine if Apple only switched to PowerPC chips in the 90's but kept using 68k chips in PowerBooks or something?

And considering the performance improvements we're seeing on the desktop side, I don't think it was a mistake to being able to use those new processors there as well.

Really, I would not cite the current problems as a reason that it was a mistake to switch to Intel processors.

As it is, I don't know how much IBM compared about the desktop or mobile market for PowerPC chips anyway. And who even knows what the future has been; what have you heard about the Cell processors lately?

-Zadillo
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Well IBM recently released a QUAD core Power5+

http://www.amdzone.com/modules.php?...=article&sid=6250&mode=thread&order=0&thold=0

Cell is being integrated into the Linux Kernel...

http://www.enterprisenetworksandservers.com/monthly/art.php?2573

45nm parts...

http://www.eetimes.com/news/semi/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=192400066

For those who think Apple's investment would be in billions to go under 90nm just take a look here: $200 million deal to develop 45nm... (chunk change for Apple; think about it)
http://www.cbronline.com/article_news.asp?guid=A3B5A20D-04A1-4BE3-AC56-4BC2852812BC
 
Meanwhile, Intel's quad core chips will be running at significantly higher clock speeds than the IBM referenced above, and Intel will be transitioning production level chips to 45nm in about a year.
 
Silentwave said:
Meanwhile, Intel's quad core chips will be running at significantly higher clock speeds than the IBM referenced above, and Intel will be transitioning production level chips to 45nm in about a year.
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Not really. Power chips are totally different beasts then PowerPC chips. Power chips have thicker gates then PowerPC so they aren't design to scale up as high. None the less IBM has managed to do so...

IBM already has 4ghz+ parts... 6ghz last time I heard...

http://digg.com/hardware/IBM_Unveils_4_-_6_GHz_Power6_Processor

http://www.osnews.com/story.php?news_id=13593

Now imagine how much higher they can take the PowerPC with smaller gates... Screw Intel.
 
Ah. Dang. Apple gave me quite a scare this morning... why would they take the store down, thus building my hopes that C2D was on its way.. and then put the store back up without any changes...?


I would love to wait for the C2D's in the MBP, but I desperatly need to order my MBP now for school...

Should I just order a basic system and hope they release the C2D within 14 days?

Seems like a big risk to me...
 
agreed, if they were simply updating the site, why would they do it on TUESDAY morning? I think they were going to launch something and steve pulled the plug. I'd just go for it and get you laptop.
 
If I go ahead and order a stock MBP next monday that will give me till the 24th to return it and get a Merom.. assuming that they do in fact release them in France.

But a part of me is wondering if the C2D is going to be worth all of the waiting...? Any ideas on that?
 
tabaczka said:
If I go ahead and order a stock MBP next monday that will give me till the 24th to return it and get a Merom.. assuming that they do in fact release them in France.

But a part of me is wondering if the C2D is going to be worth all of the waiting...? Any ideas on that?
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I'm picking up a stock one tomorrow with the intent of swapping it once the new ones are released. I'm not so much waiting on Merom as I am for what I see as an inevitable case redesign. Things such as the magnetic latch, backlit MacBook keyboard, easily swappable HDD, maybe anodized aluminum with color, built in eSATA port (dreaming now), and maybe something else I've not even thought of. As Multimedia has pointed out many times in this and other threads, those are the things really worth waiting for. I think they'll be worth it.
 
returns?

well, i was going to check their return policy for things such as new product launches, but the whola apple site is down... any one know the policy off the top of their head?
 
mrdice87 said:
well, i was going to check their return policy for things such as new product launches, but the whola apple site is down... any one know the policy off the top of their head?
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You have 14 days to return any non-custom product (those cannot be returned unless DOA). If the box is opened, you owe them a 10% restocking fee. Also, if you purchase with a student discount, your restocking fee goes down too. I thought that was a nice touch.
 
Ganymede said:
I'm picking up a stock one tomorrow with the intent of swapping it once the new ones are released. I'm not so much waiting on Merom as I am for what I see as an inevitable case redesign. Things such as the magnetic latch, backlit MacBook keyboard, easily swappable HDD, maybe anodized aluminum with color, built in eSATA port (dreaming now), and maybe something else I've not even thought of. As Multimedia has pointed out many times in this and other threads, those are the things really worth waiting for. I think they'll be worth it.
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So your praying that they release the new MBP before the 20th? Or are you pretty certain that it will come before then.. otherwise you are stuck with your Stock MBP.

If nothing comes out of this September 12th update, hopefully France on the 16th?

But if not I have been reading about the end of september for the update... and if that is the case you would be screwed..?
 
tabaczka said:
So your praying that they release the new MBP before the 20th? Or are you pretty certain that it will come before then.. otherwise you are stuck with your Stock MBP.

If nothing comes out of this September 12th update, hopefully France on the 16th?

But if not I have been reading about the end of september for the update... and if that is the case you would be screwed..?
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I need a laptop tomorrow for grad school, so I'm buying at the last possible minute. I probably should have mentioned that in the original post, would have clarified my motives. :)
So if the update comes soon enough (and is worth the restocking fee for me) then great; if not, then there really wasn't anything else I could have done.
 
Does anyone know if the nano promotion will go right until the end of the 16th? (11:59 PM) That way, I can wait until the 16th, and whether or not something gets announced, I can order. I'm sick of waiting, and I'd rather have 200 bucks off than wait around for another while. I'll be happy either way I'm sure.

But if it gets announced on the 16, will I be able to purchase on the 16 and still get the money off?
 
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