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Multimedia said:
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So the 2GHz Merom Dell will cost $1714 Vs. a 2GHz MacBook for $1299. Wow. Apple really is a lot cheaper than Dell even at the entry level of Mobiles.

Multimedia said:
elsiedee said:
But that Dell has an NVidia Quadro FX 350M 512MB graphics card. Not really a fair comparison.
Unless you're not a gamer.
You're comparing a 2GHz Merom Dell with a dedicated graphics card and 15" display to a 2GHz MacBook with integrated graphics and you're surprised that the MacBook is cheaper? A better comparison would be a 2GHz Merom Dell Inspiron E1405 with integrated graphics and 14.1" display for $1179.

http://configure.us.dell.com/dellstore/config.aspx?c=us&cs=19&fb=1&l=en&oc=E1405RFC1&s=dhs
 
jaynano said:
While we wait for the release of Apple's Merom MB/MBP, what are the advantages of MBP over MB? Obviously I want a MBP, but I don't really have that kind of cash to shell out, and of course school has to be starting soon. I'm thinking of getting the Merom MB when it is released, unless I can be convinced to wait a little bit longer without a laptop, like 2-3 months, until I can afford a MBP.

That's just going to come down to personal preference, honestly. They're both great, but do you need what the MBP offers, or do you just want it? If you don't need it, then the logical move would be to go with the MB. However, if you really, really want a MBP to the point where you're obsessing over it (like me :) ), you'll wait the two to three months to save up the additional cash in order to get it.

There's a thin line between necessity and desire.
 
Who is going to the apple expo this year ?

I ll go to the apple expo in september , as i live in paris.
Is anyone here going ?
 
HecubusPro said:
I don't hold a lot of credence is the knowledge of Apple Store employees. While I'm sure some of them are mac fans who do keep up with what's going on in the mac world, most are just people who needed a job and might have a slight familiarity with macs.

On the other hand, if you ask someone at Apple who definitely knows something, the usual answer is "I know nothing until Steve says so." At the stores I think you will find some people who are really knowledgable about anything you can buy in the store; for anything that is not on sale there (like Merom), they have no other sources than you and I have.
 
gnasher729 said:
On the other hand, if you ask someone at Apple who definitely knows something, the usual answer is "I know nothing until Steve says so." At the stores I think you will find some people who are really knowledgable about anything you can buy in the store; for anything that is not on sale there (like Merom), they have no other sources than you and I have.

Living in LA, I have the opportunity to visit several Apple stores around the city and converse with their employees. I stand by my original assessment. :)

While they know more than the average Fry's employee (who doesn't?) their knowledge is geared towards casual consumers who know next to nothing about macs other than they look "nicer" than the other computers out there.
 
if only MBP comes out with C2D at first, then I will buy a MBP right away, probably a lower end one. if MB and MBP both come out with Merom (which I'm hoping), then I'll buy a highly upgraded blackbook. I really want a Merom Blackbook!!!!!!!
 
Returning a MBP

Hey guys,

just a quick question. I purchased a 15' MBP two days ago unknowing that these new Intel cores would soon be makign the rounds. Do you know what my options would be interms of retruning or exchanging my MBP? Does Apple provide special allowance in the event of hardware upgrade? Or should I just return the thing now, argue to waive the restocking fee and then pick up a new one? Any advice would be helpful.

All the best
 
backdraft said:

Apple switching to intel was, for me, the best thing to happen to them in a very long time. If people who ported games to the Mac couldn't port it effectively as was stated in that article, then the system was probably too difficult for them to grasp. Now that they've adopted Intel, porting games will be much easier, as discussed here.

https://www.macrumors.com/pages/2006/08/20060803142913.shtml

Even if they don't port, I can still run Windows on my mac and play the game that way.

Apple switching to Intel. Best move ever!
 
It also proves why Apple switched...

This is interesting. And I would agree to a large degree. Developers could have done a lot to make more/better use of the Altivec processor.

But.

There is a lot more sample code out there for writing x86 assembly code.

The blog also totally misses the boat in that this shows how dicky IBM was being. Why in the hell didn't they optimize the GCC compiler for Altivec BEFORE Apple switched? Until Apple said, "dude, this just isn't working out," IBM was happy to sell them processors and provide little information or manpower for doing this kind of sweet stuff.

So while there is some cool a** stuff that can be done on the G4/G5's that developers were missing out on, part of the fault lies not just with Apple, but with Motorola and IBM who were supposed to provide the tools for developers.

You'll notice that Intel is really good about this. While I'm still making optimized code for G4/G5's, I've always felt like it's a more sanctioned activity on the x86 side.

backdraft said:
 
Been checking out a few Apple stores in Norway, none of them can deliver a MBP in under two weeks. Some say two, others say 3-6 weeks waiting time.

Btw I think waiting for a C2D MB is a bit optemistic. My guess is that only the MBP will get the new chip for now, like so many others have guessed already. Probably wont see much other updates on the MBP either.
 
MB Has Easy Access Hard Drive

jaynano said:
While we wait for the release of Apple's Merom MB/MBP, what are the advantages of MBP over MB? Obviously I want a MBP, but I don't really have that kind of cash to shell out, and of course school has to be starting soon. I'm thinking of getting the Merom MB when it is released, unless I can be convinced to wait a little bit longer without a laptop, like 2-3 months, until I can afford a MBP.
MacBook has this great feature that lets you easily swap out HDs the the next MacBook Pro will likely have as well but the current model does not. I think the next MacBook Pro will be a complete design makeover featuring Black Anodized Aluminum.

My GUESS is Merom MacBook will be a few more months after the supply of Meroms exceeds what Apple needs to put them only in MBP first. Second will be iMac, then MacBook and lastly the mini. All should be there by Thanksgiving.
 
Multimedia said:
Merom MacBook will be a few more months after the supply of Meroms exceeds what Apple needs to put them only in MBP first. Second will be iMac, then MacBook and lastly the mini. All should be there by Thanksgiving.
My thoughts exactly!
 
milo said:
So if they're behind, which PC maker is shippiing conroe machines TODAY? I've asked this a couple times, and the only answers have been links to machines that haven't shipped yet, or links to chips on their own. Seriously, is anyone shippng PC's with conroe yet?

My friend (I've mentioned him before) has a 2.4 Ghz Core 2 right now. Recieved it a few days ago. I don't know who he bought it from tho.

c|net has reviews of Core 2 Duo desktops from Dell and others. If they aren't released yet, how did they get them?
 
MBP now ships within 24 hours, MB still 5-7 days.

I see no point in delaying a MacBook upgrade. All you need to do is drop in the new chips, prices don't even need to change, it would be completely pointless to let the line fall behind competitors.
 
Machead III said:
I see no point in delaying a MacBook upgrade. All you need to do is drop in the new chips, prices don't even need to change, it would be completely pointless to let the line fall behind competitors.
Mostly because they want to have difference between the Pro line and the others. Thats what I think at least, and I know some others agree.
 
Machead III said:
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I see no point in delaying a MacBook upgrade. All you need to do is drop in the new chips, prices don't even need to change, it would be completely pointless to let the line fall behind competitors.

The point is that there are still plenty of Yonah MBPs sitting around waiting to be dispatched. Once the backstock will be limited, Apple is going to announce the Meroms and start stocking those.
 
antistereo said:
The point is that there are still plenty of Yonah MBPs sitting around waiting to be dispatched. Once the backstock will be limited, Apple is going to announce the Meroms and start stocking those.
In my limited knowlege of history, Apple probably wont announce anything until they are ready to ship either. Unlike the others that have made things orderable, but wont ship them for another 2-3 weeks or more. I really cant decide which approach I like the best. I can understand Apple, but it would be so much better for me to have an order in for a new MBP now, so I know when to expect delivery. (Im out of the country almost 50% of the time, starting late sept.)
 
Machead III said:
I see no point in delaying a MacBook upgrade. All you need to do is drop in the new chips, prices don't even need to change, it would be completely pointless to let the line fall behind competitors.

I'm falling into the "no MB upgrade soon" camp. A couple of days ago I looked at some of the PC laptop web pages and only the top of the line offerings are going C2D, the lower end laptops are CD, or Pentium M, or Celeron duo/Celeron. So all Apple has to do to not fall behind the competitors is to upgrade it's Pro line.
 
Originally ordered a MB on 8/17. Shipping was pushed back from 8/22 (arrival 8/29) to now saying that estimated ship date is 8/31 with an estimated arrival of 9/8. With a 2-day ship service. How does that work??

I still think something is going on and we'll see an update next Tues. or Weds..
.Fingers crossed.
 
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